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Eric Paul Jacobsen's avatar

Not caring about the American people is perfectly legal, of course, and the notion that agencies of the US federal government SHOULD care about people qualifies as "controversial" today. About one-third of the US electorate feels that it would be much better for the federal government to "save money" by NOT caring about "other people" anymore.

I cannot wait until people in this one-third of the electorate discover that, from other people's perspective -- indeed from the perspective of the narcissistic nincompoops they voted for -- THEY are "other people." Thus, the aim of the party that THEY chose in the last election is to save money by hurting THEM.

It may be too much to expect that these people will also notice that most of the money "saved" by this demolition of human decency will NEVER come to them but will be quickly hoovered up by a handful of rich donors.

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Robyn. Last time I was vaccinated for flu, I received a senior flu shot, which I didn't know is a thing until I got it. I keep up to date because all my clients are HIV positive adults, and I do NOT wish to spread communicable diseases to the immunocompromised.

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Fuck RFK, Jr.

And, while we're at it, Fuck Krasnov.

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kmblue187's avatar

My guess about what the CDC would do was "nothing."

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

They're doing a pretty good job of it, too, considering that they don't have a lot of experience at that.

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OrdinaryJoe's avatar

Measles outbreak spreads to New Mexico.

Let's change the name from Measles to Bobbykennedydeathforbrowninfants.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2025-02-24/texas-measles-outbreak-spreads-to-new-mexico-as-case-numbers-near-100

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Timothy Storey's avatar

Due to food lodged in my esophagus, I spent 4 hours in the local E.D. last week. I swear that the every one else in the waiting room, except for the older couple sitting close to me, did not get their flu or RSV shots, detectable by much constant loud coughing.

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archy's avatar

Be sure to urge your maggot acquaintances NOT to get the Shingles vaccine, especially if they had chicken pox as a kid.

They'll thank you later...

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

I am so fucking vaccinated that if a Republican gets within five feet of me, their heads explode from the shedding.

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Lionel “8647” Hutz's avatar

You have to understand Rob Kennedy's perspective. When he was young, his heroine dealer was very good at letting him know all the potential risks of using heroine before he got informed consent from Rob and then selling him a couple of grams of excellent Thai Black Betty.

If a dealer at Harvard could do that in the 1970s, why can't a manufacturer of a flu vaccine do that today???

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JustDontSayDittos's avatar

TBF, RFKJunkie probably was paying more than a $15 copay.

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

He didn't notice.

Rich.

White.

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JustDontSayDittos's avatar

Related topic, reposting from last Friday, so skip if you've read this already. Last week I started wondering if I still had immunity to measles, because I kept hearing about people who didn't anymore. I messaged my doc about getting a booster, and he replied "CDC does not recommend" and included a link to CDC's MMR page.

OK, fine, but it doesn't recommend AGAINST, either. So I replied to the doc, Hey what about a test for this "evidence of immunity" CDC talks about? Doc ordered the test, which I got the next morning, and which by afternoon gave the result "no evidence of immunity" for measles or rubella. As soon as doc saw the report, he ordered MMR vax. Two shots, actually: I got one Friday and need to get another after 28 days. The nurse who injected me said this would be good for about 35 years.

Hmm. It's been more than 35v years since my last MMR shot, as well as I can remember. Maybe it just wore off? And maybe everybody my age needs to think theirs could have worn off? The test was a couple of blood draws, NBD. $10 copay at Kaiser.

No shit people: what if our entire cohort of boomers and gap kids needs another round of vax? Given all these assholes not immunizing their grade-school-age disease vectors, we need to be just a bit more fkn vigilant, methinks.

This has been a PSA from yr JustDontSayDittos.

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Zyxomma's avatar

The MMR vaccine came out after I almost died of measles. I remembered Younger Sister having chickenpox, but did not remember whether or not I had it. My PCP checked my titers. Anything over 649 is immune. My number was 1,111 so I don't need Shingrix.

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JustDontSayDittos's avatar

Interesting. So you were exposed, but you don't need Shingrix? I had C-pox, so I needed Shingrix. My sister got shingles in her early 50s, so I learned from her terrible experience and nagged my doc to order it for me, too, even though I was still younger than whatever guidelines they were using then.

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Hank Napkin's avatar

Gotta ask "how harmful can it be?" if the landscape is still crawling with maga?

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gallbladder's avatar

I realize that this has probably been asked, but what could 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘺 go wrong?

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Ooh! I have a list! Sit down. I'll put on the kettle.

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3FingerPete's avatar

Did we not learn from Covid that the first step to a cure is to stop all testing?

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

You do have to admit, it was more strategic for Chump to get his pandemic out of the way at the beginning of his term rather than at the end.

He'll also want to get his economic collapse over with before the midterms, or there'll be hell to pay come '28.

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roctavia's avatar

Flu will just keep comin' back round each year of his term... and I can only imagine the vaccine rate will be lower and lower each time (assuming we're still allowed to have vaccines, that is) but hopefully it keeps killing mostly stupid people??

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The Blessed Reverend's avatar

Let 'er RIP though the population unchecked - after all, it is no worse than the flu. Because, um, it IS the flu!

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Cincinnatus's avatar

"White House Considers Deporting Migrants For A Very Disturbing Reason: CBS

The Trump administration has reportedly prepared plans to revive a policy that would give U.S. immigration officials the power to quickly deport migrants on the xenophobic basis that they could spread diseases, according to internal government documents obtained by CBS News.

The documents reviewed by the network detail the administration's plan to bring back Title 42, a border measure that was put in place during Trump's first term amid the COVID-19 pandemic. The controversial measure allowed the government to deport migrants for public health reasons, and was kept in place by the Biden administration until 2023 while an increased number of migrants and refugees crossed the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is planning to issue an order labeling migrants who enter the U.S. without documentation and asylum-seekers as public health risks, CBS reports, with the institution claiming they could spread communicable diseases, like tuberculosis.

Such concerns contradict Trump's decision to appoint noted anti-vaxxer RFK Jr. to lead the country's Health and Human Services. Reviving Title 42 may not help curb the spread of disease within the country, but it would give border agents permission to ignore immigration law by denying migrants their right to seek asylum.

The reported plan would not be the first time a right-wing government justified mass deporting asylum-seekers by making the dehumanizing claim that they are carrying diseases, spreading fear among the public."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-white-house-live-updates_n_67aa443de4b0cced3687c9ec?yz8

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Zyxomma's avatar

I remember when the US was not admitting Haitians, and I remember why.

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Bagels of Doom's avatar

"Instead, RFK Jr. wants an advertising campaign promoting the idea of “informed consent” with regard to vaccines. In hopes of talking people out of getting them? Maybe, maybe not, do your own research!"

I had to end a friendship of many years over this in the late nineties. The "informed consent" to homeopathy and various assorted woo pipeline is a real thing.

People who push for this bullshit worship known anti-vaxx crank Andrew "Oops! where's my medical license?" Wakefield.

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

I gave a friend a ride to a chiropractor consultation, because Medicaid pays. Sitting in the lobby reading a book, there was a big poster on the wall with a giant syringe on it. The contents of the syringe were various toxic substances found in vaccines.

A woman came in for a session with four kids under six. Never having had the mumps, I continued my reading in the car.

The consultation wasn't promising. He could, of course, offer help for her chronic pain symptoms with a program that was exactly as long as the number of visits Medicaid would approve.

Instead of framed diplomas on his office wall, he had framed testimonials from patients.

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Biff52 Lost Canadian's avatar

He can set up shop in the lobbies of all the crisis pregnancy centers! Same ideology.

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Bagels of Doom's avatar

I would go out on a limb and say that there's some overlap there. The woo woo rabbit hole is deep and weird.

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Land Shark 🇺🇦 🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Mrs LS is seeing the severe cases of flu and the subsequent pneumonia in her ICU. A lot of patients.

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