I don't know all that much about either candidate here, so grain of salt. But in general, it is so depressing how little it takes to be disqualified as a woman candidate, and how much it takes for a man.
It's going to take more than a decade for this country to get over Kamala and Hillary, despite the fact that electing a fascist criminal should be the real cause for soul-searching.
Yeah fair enough - I know she's also quite old for a freshman senator, and we want someone there long term. But, I think it's fair to say that many voters also really don't want to elect a woman if they can avoid it.
"Fetterman spoke to NOTUS’s Igor Bobic about Platner, saying, “Democrats really, really like Platner in Maine, but the Republicans fucking love him.”
“If Maine wants an asshole with a Nazi tattoo on his chest, they get him,” added Fetterman. Bobic also reported of their conversation: I asked him if he could see himself supporting Collins in the race. “No, I don’t have any — I’m not in it,” he said."
With all that baggage, Platner makes me uneasy. Hard to get past the homophobic, racist, and sexist comments and his NAZI tattoo. How many people like that have a legit change of heart and mind? I can't think of any. I suspect he's going to disappoint us more than Fetterman.
Our primary election process is completely broken if the leading candidates are a 78 year old who didn't really want to run and "reformed" bigot oyster farmer.
My attitude is that everyone should be a Democrat, because the Republican party doesn't do anything for anybody except a few rich weirdos who don't need anything anyway. Join or die.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and the Sec of Murder has some mighty questionable tattoos, so LFG. Dems MUST be the confirmers of any (maybe 2?) SCOTUS noms going forward, let's not f*ck this up like the wishy-washy anti-Hillary Dem-adjacents did in 2016 - WITH AN OPEN SCOTUS SEAT. We're counting on you, Maine-iacs!
C'mon, people, put your purity tests aside. Someone who has overcome the sins of his past is preferable to someone who has never sinned, and doesn't know how bad sinning really is.
It's not a case of purity tests. Being a nazi and a homophobe and a hater of women is disqualifying in a Democratic candidate. Being anti-nazi is not a fringe position. I want to believe he has honestly changed his tune, but after being so burned by Fetterman, it's reasonable to be more than a little skeptical. I hope I'm wrong. I'm worried that I'm not.
I'm voicing concerns (concerns! Gah! I sound like Collins!), but don't get me wrong. if I were a Maine voter, I wouldn't be flipping a coin on my way to the voting booth.
Who, Platner? You're a Mainer? Well good! Let us know the impression you get. And tell him about Wonkette! If he wins he can join us under a pseudonym and get good advice anytime he wants (actually, not really joking there. We *do* give good advice!)
American conservatives are winners at heart. The right does not have a loser problem. The right's opposition most certainly does. It reminds me of a Bluesky post from a while back – one I can't find for whatever reason – in which someone said living under fascism was better than living under neoliberalism. First: no. Second: you're trying too hard; you're thinking too much; you're doing too much. Third: this effectively makes you a fascist. I'm sorry but it does. Wanting the world to burn because you can't have everything on your left-wing political checklist is loser shit. It just is.
I wasn't sure how to feel about Platner before. I do think people need to be allowed to grow and become better people, and I hope he is earnest. But the Schumer endorsement worries me. Either Schumer thinks Platner is not as progressive as he lets on, or the corporate Dems have finally come to the conclusion that fascism might actually be worse than progressivism. I really hope its the latter.
Except for a few dollars to Kat, I no longer donate to politicians, not even my beloved Bernie. Not bc I don't trust him, I just won't give to the machine anymore. Just got the email from him asking to help Graham. And he said "Not just me. Us." And I could still cry that he didn't win. I'm a late middle aged female Bernie Bro. As are most all the other Bernie Bros I know.
Dok managed to get through that whole column without mentioning Fetterman, though I suspect he's at the root of every misgiving about Plattner.
Fetterman is the root of a lot of misgivings.
Sure is w mine.
Anyone but Collins.
I don't know all that much about either candidate here, so grain of salt. But in general, it is so depressing how little it takes to be disqualified as a woman candidate, and how much it takes for a man.
It's going to take more than a decade for this country to get over Kamala and Hillary, despite the fact that electing a fascist criminal should be the real cause for soul-searching.
Janet’s problems go beyond female. Her “middle” policy’s are the problem.
It has worked for her till now.
Ps I did vote for her for governor and glad I did.
Yeah fair enough - I know she's also quite old for a freshman senator, and we want someone there long term. But, I think it's fair to say that many voters also really don't want to elect a woman if they can avoid it.
PLEASE don't quote that backstabbing GilliBITCH and moronic, corpofascist Chuckles.
"Fetterman spoke to NOTUS’s Igor Bobic about Platner, saying, “Democrats really, really like Platner in Maine, but the Republicans fucking love him.”
“If Maine wants an asshole with a Nazi tattoo on his chest, they get him,” added Fetterman. Bobic also reported of their conversation: I asked him if he could see himself supporting Collins in the race. “No, I don’t have any — I’m not in it,” he said."
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/fetterman-demolishes-ahole-graham-platner-republicans-fcking-love-him/
Fetterman doesn’t like him. Sounds like a plus.
I donated to him before I heard about his past, but he sure sounds great. I hope he doesn’t turn fetterman on us.🤞🏻
That's my concern too.
With all that baggage, Platner makes me uneasy. Hard to get past the homophobic, racist, and sexist comments and his NAZI tattoo. How many people like that have a legit change of heart and mind? I can't think of any. I suspect he's going to disappoint us more than Fetterman.
Our primary election process is completely broken if the leading candidates are a 78 year old who didn't really want to run and "reformed" bigot oyster farmer.
Some do. The guy that was the son of the KKK guy in SoCal that "American History X" was based on did. He learned.
That is the exception that proves the rule, though, I am afraid.
Hopefully another exception can occur. Sometimes people work twice as hard in redemption.
I’m definitely not all in. I’ll go to see him.
Unfortunately we are running out of time and choices on this one.
I DONT want Suzie Q back. She’s way past expiration date she promised.
I hope so! (that he is repentant).
My attitude is that everyone should be a Democrat, because the Republican party doesn't do anything for anybody except a few rich weirdos who don't need anything anyway. Join or die.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and the Sec of Murder has some mighty questionable tattoos, so LFG. Dems MUST be the confirmers of any (maybe 2?) SCOTUS noms going forward, let's not f*ck this up like the wishy-washy anti-Hillary Dem-adjacents did in 2016 - WITH AN OPEN SCOTUS SEAT. We're counting on you, Maine-iacs!
I'll just quote two football coaches here:
Chuck Noll (GO STEELERS!): "Whatever it takes"
Al Davis (gag): "Just win, baby!"
"Winning isn't the main thing-it's the only thing."-Vince Lombardi, IIRC.
C'mon, people, put your purity tests aside. Someone who has overcome the sins of his past is preferable to someone who has never sinned, and doesn't know how bad sinning really is.
It's not a case of purity tests. Being a nazi and a homophobe and a hater of women is disqualifying in a Democratic candidate. Being anti-nazi is not a fringe position. I want to believe he has honestly changed his tune, but after being so burned by Fetterman, it's reasonable to be more than a little skeptical. I hope I'm wrong. I'm worried that I'm not.
Favorite son or prodigal son, you decide.
I'm voicing concerns (concerns! Gah! I sound like Collins!), but don't get me wrong. if I were a Maine voter, I wouldn't be flipping a coin on my way to the voting booth.
That’s why I’m going to meet him.
Who, Platner? You're a Mainer? Well good! Let us know the impression you get. And tell him about Wonkette! If he wins he can join us under a pseudonym and get good advice anytime he wants (actually, not really joking there. We *do* give good advice!)
Yeah I’m up here. Snowed in mountains today.
I was going to go to the LA legion meeting to see him, but I got sick.
Oh LA is Lewiston Auburn for flatlanders.
https://badfaithtimes.com/the-left-has-a-loser-problem/
American conservatives are winners at heart. The right does not have a loser problem. The right's opposition most certainly does. It reminds me of a Bluesky post from a while back – one I can't find for whatever reason – in which someone said living under fascism was better than living under neoliberalism. First: no. Second: you're trying too hard; you're thinking too much; you're doing too much. Third: this effectively makes you a fascist. I'm sorry but it does. Wanting the world to burn because you can't have everything on your left-wing political checklist is loser shit. It just is.
Second: they're not trying at all. they're not thinking at all (they can't.....), they're not doing anything AT ALL.
"Chuck Schumer has learned his lesson."
--Susan Collins
Damn you, Susan Collins, damn you.
Khaaaaaan!
But can he furrow his brow in concern?
If Collins loses, she could start a seminar series for that.
I wasn't sure how to feel about Platner before. I do think people need to be allowed to grow and become better people, and I hope he is earnest. But the Schumer endorsement worries me. Either Schumer thinks Platner is not as progressive as he lets on, or the corporate Dems have finally come to the conclusion that fascism might actually be worse than progressivism. I really hope its the latter.
Chuck is lashing on to Platner, not the other way around....
Uncle Chuck needs to preserve his reputation for backing winners, and the endorsement is a signal it’s OK for big donors to write checks for Platner.
And Uncle Chuckles wants to be majority leader, also too.
He is long past his sell-by date. Move over, we've got a country to fix.
Except for a few dollars to Kat, I no longer donate to politicians, not even my beloved Bernie. Not bc I don't trust him, I just won't give to the machine anymore. Just got the email from him asking to help Graham. And he said "Not just me. Us." And I could still cry that he didn't win. I'm a late middle aged female Bernie Bro. As are most all the other Bernie Bros I know.