Bingo. He and Pelosi seem to think it’s still the 90s, when whether it worked or not you had to aggressively position yourself as a centrist. A 'moderate' in the language of the time. Dunno what about the trump fiasco is making them think that will be effective. 🤦🏻♀️
This is exactly the thing I mean when I am not excited about Joe winning the primary - not because he's an old white cis-gender xtian man, but because he's too much of a "centrist"/right winger for my taste. It comes down to positions and policies.
Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann are both young-ish women, but back absolutely awful policies.
I do wonder if Obama choosing Biden was a highly calculated strategy to make some white people that may be just a *bit* nervous about having a black guy in the WH - Biden had at least a touch of that kind of old white uncle racial insensitivity/cluelessness that maybe made some white people just comfortable enough to vote for Obama/Biden?
A comment like "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" just makes me shake my head and ask WTF? But I have to wonder if this kind of thing was actually expected of Biden by the Obama people.
Biden has long been a gaffe machine and has quite the ability to blow presidential campaigns. It's possible that in the age of Trump gaffes don't really matter if you wait them out, but Biden's tin ear is certainly something to give us pause.
Well, that depends on what we do with the extra revenue. A rich guy getting richer or poorer won't really affect a poor guy directly. But shoring up certain programs might.
That's my fear. And an opportunity for one of his challengers to prove they're tougher. Because I think what's on most Democrats' minds (or at least mine!) is beating Trump first. If that doesn't happen, nothing else here matters.
Yep--and we have to try and look objectively. I'm rather centrist/moderate, but can understand where a more liberal candidate (who, if we're ignoring electability, I might not prefer) is the better nominee because they're simply better at politics (rallying crowds, inspiring volunteers, messaging) and can fire up more liberals to vote. Too often people use "electability" to argue for "the candidate I personally prefer".
Another good point. On an unrelated note, it's sad that "moderate" has come to mean anything left of Mussolini. I might be what was considered moderate 30 years ago, but by today's standards I'm apparently a radical commie.
Unfortunately I can't respond to you because that would mean violating uncompromising principles of not engaging with someone who's opinions and manner of speaking are diametrically opposite to mine.
Every day, Biden looks less and less appealing and more appalling. Hopefully his tired old white ass will be running a distant third (or fourth.. fifth..) place by the time primaries roll around.
America just loves white men who have passed into senescence. Doesn't matter if they're Left or Right, as long as they're settled in to that geriatric state known as 'old poopery.' White people love these sorts almost as much as they love old poops with mouths like a dog's rectum, rather like the current President.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But as far as I'm concerned, the thought of another white old poop in the White House doesn't exactly causes me to feel optimistic or enthused.
Whatever you think of Biden's remarks, Elizabeth Warren was way out of line: "I'm not here to criticize other Democrats but it's never ok to celebrate segregationists. Never," Warren said on Capitol Hill." Warren saying Biden was "celebrating segregationists" was almost a Trumpian misinterpretation..It made my respect for her drop sharply.Booker was even worse.
Good!
Bingo. He and Pelosi seem to think it’s still the 90s, when whether it worked or not you had to aggressively position yourself as a centrist. A 'moderate' in the language of the time. Dunno what about the trump fiasco is making them think that will be effective. 🤦🏻♀️
This is exactly the thing I mean when I am not excited about Joe winning the primary - not because he's an old white cis-gender xtian man, but because he's too much of a "centrist"/right winger for my taste. It comes down to positions and policies.
Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann are both young-ish women, but back absolutely awful policies.
I do wonder if Obama choosing Biden was a highly calculated strategy to make some white people that may be just a *bit* nervous about having a black guy in the WH - Biden had at least a touch of that kind of old white uncle racial insensitivity/cluelessness that maybe made some white people just comfortable enough to vote for Obama/Biden?
A comment like "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" just makes me shake my head and ask WTF? But I have to wonder if this kind of thing was actually expected of Biden by the Obama people.
Biden has long been a gaffe machine and has quite the ability to blow presidential campaigns. It's possible that in the age of Trump gaffes don't really matter if you wait them out, but Biden's tin ear is certainly something to give us pause.
Well, that depends on what we do with the extra revenue. A rich guy getting richer or poorer won't really affect a poor guy directly. But shoring up certain programs might.
That's my fear. And an opportunity for one of his challengers to prove they're tougher. Because I think what's on most Democrats' minds (or at least mine!) is beating Trump first. If that doesn't happen, nothing else here matters.
Yep--and we have to try and look objectively. I'm rather centrist/moderate, but can understand where a more liberal candidate (who, if we're ignoring electability, I might not prefer) is the better nominee because they're simply better at politics (rallying crowds, inspiring volunteers, messaging) and can fire up more liberals to vote. Too often people use "electability" to argue for "the candidate I personally prefer".
Another good point. On an unrelated note, it's sad that "moderate" has come to mean anything left of Mussolini. I might be what was considered moderate 30 years ago, but by today's standards I'm apparently a radical commie.
Unfortunately I can't respond to you because that would mean violating uncompromising principles of not engaging with someone who's opinions and manner of speaking are diametrically opposite to mine.
Every day, Biden looks less and less appealing and more appalling. Hopefully his tired old white ass will be running a distant third (or fourth.. fifth..) place by the time primaries roll around.
America just loves white men who have passed into senescence. Doesn't matter if they're Left or Right, as long as they're settled in to that geriatric state known as 'old poopery.' White people love these sorts almost as much as they love old poops with mouths like a dog's rectum, rather like the current President.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But as far as I'm concerned, the thought of another white old poop in the White House doesn't exactly causes me to feel optimistic or enthused.
Whatever you think of Biden's remarks, Elizabeth Warren was way out of line: "I'm not here to criticize other Democrats but it's never ok to celebrate segregationists. Never," Warren said on Capitol Hill." Warren saying Biden was "celebrating segregationists" was almost a Trumpian misinterpretation..It made my respect for her drop sharply.Booker was even worse.
Then how will we get a woman elected? I still think misogyny defeated Clinton--from both men and women.
Ah. Depends on the situation, honestly.
Do you really think that was what he was saying? Because we can discuss that. But deliberate misinterpretation doesn't leave much room for discussion.