It would be interesting to know what year, make, and model her car is.
I would think as she lives in Philadelphia and (as far as we know) has never been stoped for tinted windows there, this is clarly a scam to make money in South Williamsport
i would hope that a lot of supporters/witnesses go along while she's washing cars, but they probably do that inside the station garage and wouldn't have to let anybody else in. the kicker is that they likely have somebody who does their grunt work already
I can only speak to how it's done in the two rural counties of which I'm familiar, but the county jail inmate trustees are the ones who wash cop cars from any law enforcement agency that wants it. Even members of the public could get their cars washed, and they'd put money on the books of the inmate. Much better solution than what this asshole judge sentenced her to.
I think there's three basic kinds of cop: one is the good kind - actually explains themselves, follows rules, and is polite when dealing with the public. The second is not actually corrupt or (premeditatively) violent, but they are very arrogant and entitled, and expect the public to just DO WHAT THEY SAY, goddammit, and everything will go just fine and why can't people realize that?
The third kind is a nightmare, and is relatively uncommon. But the second kind ends up hurting people also, because their attitude ends up making problems that didn't have to exist in the first place.
The first kind doesn't exist in sufficient numbers to be statistically meaningful.
The second exists in great profusion, and they're the larval stage of the third kind.
The third kind is far too common.
I spent over a decade working for a vertical integrator for public safety, and the horrors that I saw as a relatively privileged civilian ensure that I'd never see LEOs of any stripe in a positive light again. They're glorified slave patrols with immunity for their actions unless what they do is deeply egregious, and even then, we see how hard it is to convict them for bad acts.
At 9pm in mid Sept in the Williamsport area it's past dusk, so not the best liglhting conditions. PA DOT has definitions for acceptable window tinting (70% transmissability). How was the cop able to spot (allegedly) illegally tinted windows in the dark?
She undoubtedly bought the car with the windows the way they were at the time of the traffic stop but she was made responsible. Ain't safety enforcement great? It's just like noncompliance. You can whip it out like a throw-down saturday night special.
I bought a car recently that has tinted windows. Now I'm thinking I need to avoid driving in Pennsylvania. Fortunately, I don't live close to that state.
I wonder how prominently Lycoming Co. features in copies of the Green Book, as in "do not travel through there." I'm sure this kind of thing isn't new for the area.
She was given a reprieve 3 months ago, which is good news. The article also says the sentence was vacated, which I guess means dismissed or thrown out.
That is referring to the initial sentence which Robyn mentioned in her article. The new sentence (including the required probation) still stands. Regarding the new sentence:
It's fine, once she's done washing a few cars, she'll have no problem at all applying for a job, rental, credit card, or mortgage. Whatevs! That's just what happens when you're uppity with tinted windows.
It would be interesting to know what year, make, and model her car is.
I would think as she lives in Philadelphia and (as far as we know) has never been stoped for tinted windows there, this is clarly a scam to make money in South Williamsport
Here is a link to a PDF below explaing the laws.
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i would hope that a lot of supporters/witnesses go along while she's washing cars, but they probably do that inside the station garage and wouldn't have to let anybody else in. the kicker is that they likely have somebody who does their grunt work already
I can only speak to how it's done in the two rural counties of which I'm familiar, but the county jail inmate trustees are the ones who wash cop cars from any law enforcement agency that wants it. Even members of the public could get their cars washed, and they'd put money on the books of the inmate. Much better solution than what this asshole judge sentenced her to.
I think there's three basic kinds of cop: one is the good kind - actually explains themselves, follows rules, and is polite when dealing with the public. The second is not actually corrupt or (premeditatively) violent, but they are very arrogant and entitled, and expect the public to just DO WHAT THEY SAY, goddammit, and everything will go just fine and why can't people realize that?
The third kind is a nightmare, and is relatively uncommon. But the second kind ends up hurting people also, because their attitude ends up making problems that didn't have to exist in the first place.
And then there's the "Good Cop" who doesn't report or inform against the other two kinds of "bad cop". That makes THREE kinds of Bad Cop.
The first kind doesn't exist in sufficient numbers to be statistically meaningful.
The second exists in great profusion, and they're the larval stage of the third kind.
The third kind is far too common.
I spent over a decade working for a vertical integrator for public safety, and the horrors that I saw as a relatively privileged civilian ensure that I'd never see LEOs of any stripe in a positive light again. They're glorified slave patrols with immunity for their actions unless what they do is deeply egregious, and even then, we see how hard it is to convict them for bad acts.
this.
What are all these scratch marks on the paint on the police cars?
You mean I was supposed to use water when scrubbing the dirt off?
Well this manages to hit the trifecta of belittling, insulting and gross. WTF?!
I hope she washes the squad cars by spit shining them.
Shit shining. You might not be able to polish a turd, but you might be able to polish with one.
At 9pm in mid Sept in the Williamsport area it's past dusk, so not the best liglhting conditions. PA DOT has definitions for acceptable window tinting (70% transmissability). How was the cop able to spot (allegedly) illegally tinted windows in the dark?
She undoubtedly bought the car with the windows the way they were at the time of the traffic stop but she was made responsible. Ain't safety enforcement great? It's just like noncompliance. You can whip it out like a throw-down saturday night special.
I bought a car recently that has tinted windows. Now I'm thinking I need to avoid driving in Pennsylvania. Fortunately, I don't live close to that state.
Sadly, it's in the top third of acceptable states.
DWB.
Maybe he'd seen the car before?
.....yah, right.
I'll go with DWB as the primary offense here.
I wonder how prominently Lycoming Co. features in copies of the Green Book, as in "do not travel through there." I'm sure this kind of thing isn't new for the area.
Rock'em Sock'em Kittehs.
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Skippity paps.
"He knocked my Block off!"
I was waiting for that non-comment. Thanks!
By your command....
Don't confuse me with that Cylon stuff.
I was waiting for that non-comment. Thanks!
Little feller's a southpaw?
About half the time.
Hit him in the labonza!
Who won?
It was a draw.
USE THE CHAIR, SIMBA!
Simba was harnessed by the dark side of the Chair.
I don't want my tax-funded law enforcement coming up with creative punishments. No fucking thank you.
Minor quibble: Judges are judicial branch, not executive branch. So technically not law enforcement.
She was given a reprieve 3 months ago, which is good news. The article also says the sentence was vacated, which I guess means dismissed or thrown out.
That is referring to the initial sentence which Robyn mentioned in her article. The new sentence (including the required probation) still stands. Regarding the new sentence:
𝐿𝑖𝑛ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑑𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑑𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑙 𝐽𝑎𝑛. 18, 2024, 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤 𝐹𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑖𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑙.
Knowing your rights while black is the new "riding dirty"
Always has been.
Bless Thurgood Marshall.
Which is why the Green Book existed.
I feel underqualified to noncomment on this matter. My personal attorney bit the dust years ago, and is unavailable for comment.
"She refused multiple requests to surrender this phone that was in her bra."
Good.
I don't honestly know why the police felt they could and should have demanded she give it to them.
For some reason they don't like being recorded.
If it was in her bra it likely wasn't being used to record them at that time.
It can record sound just fine.
6-12 inches coming between tonight and tomorrow, and some blizzard conditions promised tomorrow afternoon.
Funzies.
Hehhehheh he said "...6-12 inches coming..." Hehhehheh
What, I've got nine inches in Boise?
Is that AOL inches?
giggity
(giggling)
(giggling)
[Sniggers]
Doesn't seem to be a point in imploring a bunch'a filthy fuckaducks to grow up. :p
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DANIEL
Be safe - we're having tornado warnings south of us this evening.
It's fine, once she's done washing a few cars, she'll have no problem at all applying for a job, rental, credit card, or mortgage. Whatevs! That's just what happens when you're uppity with tinted windows.