It's a common trope, if you are a right-wing bigot: Racism doesn't hurt black people, hippity-hop rap music hurts black people, what with its jiving and twerking and PULL THOSE PANTS UP, and BACK IN MY DAY! In recent months, Fox News white geniuses Bill O'Reilly,
Most awesome and righteous tune. I wonder if one of the rethug pres candidates will cop that as their theme song. Cuz that wouldn't be totally ridiculous or anything like that at all, even, maybe, too, also, perhaps. HAHA, cuz they will of course assume it's a pro-war anthem.
“There is no question that people of faith are being marginalized by a secular media and pernicious entertainment. The rap industry for example often glorifies depraved behavior and that sinks into the minds of some young people.”Take that entire quote verbatim, but change "rap" to "country music." Still sounds every bit as valid as the original, if not more so.
Truthfully though, neither version of the statement is valid, because art, the product of imagination and creativity, does not corrupt. Artlessness, which is the absence of imagination or, even worse, the willful refusal of it, does. Conservatism can be thought of as stemming from this missing element, the fearful or willful refusal to imagine anything better. Through its effects of shutting down people's hope, creativity and imagination, the continuing sway of conservatism stands as one of the most corrosive phenomena in the world today. It isn't the things that Bill O'Reilly deplores that are causing the problems, it is the kind of thinking exemplified by what he says that is ultimately responsible for so much of it.
While I'm not going to make the insane claim that the book isn't racist in any way, I took heinlein's "point" to be more that in a post apocalyptic world ruled by africans (as in his fiction nobody bothered to target any a-bombs at africa) could contain the same brutality of man towards man as any white supremacy. You left out the little detail that the "black ruled society" kept not only white slaves but also cannibalized them. Farnham's wife and the "random black guy" (a leftist radical student IIRC) both opt to join the new society in different roles, her a pampered slave and him as a member of the african elite. Heinlein's point was more about the hypocrisy of these characters (Farnham's wife is an unsympathetic character from page 1) and the need for middle aged white men like him to get with hot younger students than it was to write the sci-fi version of the turner diaries.
there is that point, however mine remains that the only point for Farnham looking for a way back to his "present was to PREVENT Africa taking over in whitemans land (America) at least and maybe the world
... while that is a great encore for The Glorious Gloria Gaynor, to me the impetus that set the whole disco ball in motion is her ground-breaking opus here: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I don't recall that being stated explicitly at the end, they seemed more concerned with finding a way back to avoid the whole slavery/long pig fate that awaited them in staying, but I'll admit its been a good 15-20 years since I read the book. I definitely don't care enough to actually find a copy and read the end again, but I feel like even then I would have noticed if the ending were that explicitly white supremacist in tone, having noticed several other more minor racist points throughout the novel preceding it :P
Oh no, Bill O' has been fucking that anti-rap chicken like every other wingnut going back to at least when he got Ludacris tossed off of Pepsi...or Sprite, in the early 2000's. My favorite is when Al Franken compared Luda's lyrics to the greatest novel ever written, "Those Who Trespass" by Bill O'....man wingnuts just fucking ooze hypocrisy through every pore. Also I'll note that country music very fucking violent lyrics, so why aren't Southern honkeys refudiating?
the Billdo of Science Fiction was Robert Heinlein, to get a peek into his mind read "Farnham's Freehold", to wit, a group of white folks (and a random black guy) go to the future after WWIII find it is ruled by black folk, they don't like it, find a way back to the "present" and set out to make SURE that never happens (the being ruled by blacks, he didn't give a fuck about all the people killed in that war) then fade to black...ironic eh? I mean I love the mans books, but he really was a dick
I thought the Bible was the root cause of today's violence. Put that Bible on a shelf in the closet and leave it alone. Use those critical analytical skills once in a while. Unending poverty, unequal learning opportunities, unequal social opportunities, unequal pay, unequal treatment by law enforcement, unequal employment opportunities by the private sector, the public sector and , yes, the military are all a big deal. Hell, in some states, the poor that receive cash assistance receive unequal treatment on what they can buy to eat. So the root problem has to be rap music, of course. When Afros were in style, it was the Afro. Then, it was the weed, followed by hard drugs. I think the black man well understands the true problem, and it is none of the above. In short, it is do unto others, as you would have them do unto you, as taught to me around age 8. One does not need be a Christian, nor white, nor even a genius, to understand the vital importance of that phrase. It could be attributed to any philosopher, king or total stranger of no particular status, the meaning remains the same. Further, I enjoy good rap music once in a while.
Most awesome and righteous tune. I wonder if one of the rethug pres candidates will cop that as their theme song. Cuz that wouldn't be totally ridiculous or anything like that at all, even, maybe, too, also, perhaps. HAHA, cuz they will of course assume it's a pro-war anthem.
Tango libelz!!!1!11!!1
“There is no question that people of faith are being marginalized by a secular media and pernicious entertainment. The rap industry for example often glorifies depraved behavior and that sinks into the minds of some young people.”Take that entire quote verbatim, but change "rap" to "country music." Still sounds every bit as valid as the original, if not more so.
Truthfully though, neither version of the statement is valid, because art, the product of imagination and creativity, does not corrupt. Artlessness, which is the absence of imagination or, even worse, the willful refusal of it, does. Conservatism can be thought of as stemming from this missing element, the fearful or willful refusal to imagine anything better. Through its effects of shutting down people's hope, creativity and imagination, the continuing sway of conservatism stands as one of the most corrosive phenomena in the world today. It isn't the things that Bill O'Reilly deplores that are causing the problems, it is the kind of thinking exemplified by what he says that is ultimately responsible for so much of it.
While I'm not going to make the insane claim that the book isn't racist in any way, I took heinlein's "point" to be more that in a post apocalyptic world ruled by africans (as in his fiction nobody bothered to target any a-bombs at africa) could contain the same brutality of man towards man as any white supremacy. You left out the little detail that the "black ruled society" kept not only white slaves but also cannibalized them. Farnham's wife and the "random black guy" (a leftist radical student IIRC) both opt to join the new society in different roles, her a pampered slave and him as a member of the african elite. Heinlein's point was more about the hypocrisy of these characters (Farnham's wife is an unsympathetic character from page 1) and the need for middle aged white men like him to get with hot younger students than it was to write the sci-fi version of the turner diaries.
there is that point, however mine remains that the only point for Farnham looking for a way back to his "present was to PREVENT Africa taking over in whitemans land (America) at least and maybe the world
... while that is a great encore for The Glorious Gloria Gaynor, to me the impetus that set the whole disco ball in motion is her ground-breaking opus here: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I don't recall that being stated explicitly at the end, they seemed more concerned with finding a way back to avoid the whole slavery/long pig fate that awaited them in staying, but I'll admit its been a good 15-20 years since I read the book. I definitely don't care enough to actually find a copy and read the end again, but I feel like even then I would have noticed if the ending were that explicitly white supremacist in tone, having noticed several other more minor racist points throughout the novel preceding it :P
The real problem: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I'm going to see them in October. AGAIN!
In Billge O'Lielly's view of the world, a black history month commemoration parade is a riot by a race hate crazed mob.
Oh no, Bill O' has been fucking that anti-rap chicken like every other wingnut going back to at least when he got Ludacris tossed off of Pepsi...or Sprite, in the early 2000's. My favorite is when Al Franken compared Luda's lyrics to the greatest novel ever written, "Those Who Trespass" by Bill O'....man wingnuts just fucking ooze hypocrisy through every pore. Also I'll note that country music very fucking violent lyrics, so why aren't Southern honkeys refudiating?
the Billdo of Science Fiction was Robert Heinlein, to get a peek into his mind read "Farnham's Freehold", to wit, a group of white folks (and a random black guy) go to the future after WWIII find it is ruled by black folk, they don't like it, find a way back to the "present" and set out to make SURE that never happens (the being ruled by blacks, he didn't give a fuck about all the people killed in that war) then fade to black...ironic eh? I mean I love the mans books, but he really was a dick
so "Footloose" with more whacking over the head with sticks!
and oh, my those hips on Elvis!
I thought the Bible was the root cause of today's violence. Put that Bible on a shelf in the closet and leave it alone. Use those critical analytical skills once in a while. Unending poverty, unequal learning opportunities, unequal social opportunities, unequal pay, unequal treatment by law enforcement, unequal employment opportunities by the private sector, the public sector and , yes, the military are all a big deal. Hell, in some states, the poor that receive cash assistance receive unequal treatment on what they can buy to eat. So the root problem has to be rap music, of course. When Afros were in style, it was the Afro. Then, it was the weed, followed by hard drugs. I think the black man well understands the true problem, and it is none of the above. In short, it is do unto others, as you would have them do unto you, as taught to me around age 8. One does not need be a Christian, nor white, nor even a genius, to understand the vital importance of that phrase. It could be attributed to any philosopher, king or total stranger of no particular status, the meaning remains the same. Further, I enjoy good rap music once in a while.
Ever watched the episode 'Good Morning, Peoria' from 'Quantum Leap'?