The Cape Ann Republican Committee, of Cape Ann, Massachusetts, is making apologies after posting a meme to their Facebook page in support of keeping Confederate statues... and comparing keeping those statues to keeping Auschwitz standing as a reminder of the horrors of the Holocaust. Behold, said meme:
Tk: I made no such assumption. I selected from several parts of the country where the ethos of moral and intellectual superiority is strong, as on this forum, then picked from a nearly infinite number of examples to refute it. The assumption was yours.
As for the first sentence of your earlier comment to me the answer is an unequivocal and unapologetic yes because that is what I saw. If you want know what the face, at least the organized face, looks like just search Samir Shabazz. Mr. Shabazz in conjunction with the New Black Panther Part staged public spectacles in Philly where they called for the killing of white people. There weren't just one or two of these, there were at least a half dozen over six years. The You Tubes that are easiest to find have been cleaned up a bit but there will be no question that his words are as I have described them. What I believe was a free lance group across the river in Camden was even worse. They called for the killing and skinning of "cracker babies." Its the vilest stuff imaginable and other than an occasional nervous laugh nobody said a word. If I hadn't been in PHL I wouldn't have even been aware of these gatherings, any of them. If you don't want to know don't look and the more you look the more you will find.
Today a young black man was arrested for a series of killings in Kansas City. He targeted only older white men. None of the men were robbed after they had been shot, mostly in the back of the head at very close distances. The likes of Mr. Shabazz and company provide a motive force for acts like those and there are far more of them than anyone will know about unless they are specifically looking. You will likely only find the Kansas City murders if you search for them. You can explain why.
In Essington close to the airport in PHL which was very safe I listened to the bi-monthly firefights in West Chester just a couple of miles away as a straight line. After a bad weekend in Philly, and there were a number, the response on the part of Mayor Nutter and the local media was entirely predictable. Both implicit and explicit was the assertion that the majority was "preying" on the minority. The untruthful idiocy of that was almost unfathomable. I don't think even they believed it. The government's own stats on who is doing what to whom are available to anyone who wants to look. To say that these stats paint a stark picture of where the violence is concentrated is an understatement. The demographic most likely to have violence visited on them is the same one perpetrating it. The cross racial violence in the US is biased at least 8-1 and not in the direction current conventional wisdom demands it must be.
The gentlemen in West Chester were likely launchers of the 40 caliber projectile that went through the fuselage of one of our aircraft sitting on the de-ice ramp on the west end of the PHL airport.
Perhaps the Irish didn't forget they were as you put it "shit on" but rather considered in a little over three generations one of their own was the President of the United States. It makes a rather powerful argument that opportunity was there. To whom did they have the need to "feel superior?"
Perhaps the Irish fought the forced busing of their children because they felt that, rather than raising the standard where it needed to be raised, their children were being forced toward the lowest common denominator as far as schools went. If that was their objection it was one of substance.
Not one Confederate officer was ever tried for treason. The only traitor on either side that I'm aware of was General David Twiggs who surrendered about twenty US facilities to Confederate officials prior to Ft. Sumter.
Yes indeed "both siderism" because the words and deeds of all involved on both sides in the context in which they took place are the only way to evaluate the conflict. I'm not revising anything. Judging one of the belligerents in a conflict 150+ years ago by the standards of the 2017 Georgetown social sciences faculty and the other by those of the time of the conflict is ahistorical and dishonest if an accurate appraisal is the goal. It may not be.
Just to complete the record, Salem has a memorial to the victims (along with a museum, an annual re-enactment of one of the trials, and yes, all the tourist trap stuff): http://www.salemweb.com/mem.... Unfortunately, I've only visited around Halloween, when there is a loud, brightly lit carnival in the background and rowdy crowds all over, and the memorial is right next to some Halloween-y attractions about ghosts or vampires or monsters or something. Don't get me wrong -- I love Salem at Halloween -- but I really need to get there at another time when I can better appreciate the solemnity of the site.
Tk: There's neither inferiority nor superiority, implied or indicated, in an accurate accounting of what one observes over a period of years. It just is.
This isn't the only instance of someone pushing this dumb analogy. At WorldNetDaily (of course), columnist Ted Baehr bizarrely claimed Dachau had been "cleaned up, sanitized and almost turned into a park" where its concentration-camp background had been "scrubbed and sanitized" (pretty sure that's actually not the case), then asserted, "If you remove all the Confederate monuments and statues in the United States, people will no longer be able to talk about the history of the Confederacy during the Civil War, including the part slavery played in how that war began and how it developed during the four years in which it occurred, or all the many people who died during the war and why."
Um, no, Ted, that's not why the Confederate monuments were built. Also, Ted will be happy to learn of this amazing invention called books that talk about the history of the Confederacy ad nauseam.
I've been to Dachau and the only sanitizing was done by the SS just as the Allied Forces were about to arrive. All of the original barracks were destroyed but many of the original buildings have been preserved. The admin buildings, guard towers and "no-man's land", fences and crematorium are still standing. The Germans have built a few replicas of the barracks. Plaques state exactly what happened. For instance, in the crematorium there is a hook attached to rafter. There is a sign written in German, Russian, Hebrew and English that reads, "Prisoners were hanged from here." Turned into a park, my ass. There isn't enough rain in the world to ever wash the evil that still hangs in the air. The present day Germans have done an admirable job preserving the evidence of what previous generations did. I'd say Ted Baehr is a piece of shit but at least you can use shit for fertilizer.
But that's PRECISELY how the Nazis viewed it, as unconscionable as that is to you and I. It's important to relate just how barbaric they were, and how calm and bureaucratic they were in the process.
Nazis have marched before, but they were definitely encouraged by the Bigot-in-Chief. They've never been so brazen and so ready to start violence before.
White culture is the default culture of the US. The white perspective is the default perspective. White language is the default language. White people occupy the positions of power. White people make all the laws. White people made racism. White people perpetuate racism.
If white people are serious about ending racism, then we should give up some claims to our heritage and history and culture that signify oppression of others and continue to injure minority groups. It won't hurt us to do that, but it will help the groups we've oppressed.
Thank you! That's the one.
Tk: I made no such assumption. I selected from several parts of the country where the ethos of moral and intellectual superiority is strong, as on this forum, then picked from a nearly infinite number of examples to refute it. The assumption was yours.
As for the first sentence of your earlier comment to me the answer is an unequivocal and unapologetic yes because that is what I saw. If you want know what the face, at least the organized face, looks like just search Samir Shabazz. Mr. Shabazz in conjunction with the New Black Panther Part staged public spectacles in Philly where they called for the killing of white people. There weren't just one or two of these, there were at least a half dozen over six years. The You Tubes that are easiest to find have been cleaned up a bit but there will be no question that his words are as I have described them. What I believe was a free lance group across the river in Camden was even worse. They called for the killing and skinning of "cracker babies." Its the vilest stuff imaginable and other than an occasional nervous laugh nobody said a word. If I hadn't been in PHL I wouldn't have even been aware of these gatherings, any of them. If you don't want to know don't look and the more you look the more you will find.
Today a young black man was arrested for a series of killings in Kansas City. He targeted only older white men. None of the men were robbed after they had been shot, mostly in the back of the head at very close distances. The likes of Mr. Shabazz and company provide a motive force for acts like those and there are far more of them than anyone will know about unless they are specifically looking. You will likely only find the Kansas City murders if you search for them. You can explain why.
In Essington close to the airport in PHL which was very safe I listened to the bi-monthly firefights in West Chester just a couple of miles away as a straight line. After a bad weekend in Philly, and there were a number, the response on the part of Mayor Nutter and the local media was entirely predictable. Both implicit and explicit was the assertion that the majority was "preying" on the minority. The untruthful idiocy of that was almost unfathomable. I don't think even they believed it. The government's own stats on who is doing what to whom are available to anyone who wants to look. To say that these stats paint a stark picture of where the violence is concentrated is an understatement. The demographic most likely to have violence visited on them is the same one perpetrating it. The cross racial violence in the US is biased at least 8-1 and not in the direction current conventional wisdom demands it must be.
The gentlemen in West Chester were likely launchers of the 40 caliber projectile that went through the fuselage of one of our aircraft sitting on the de-ice ramp on the west end of the PHL airport.
Perhaps the Irish didn't forget they were as you put it "shit on" but rather considered in a little over three generations one of their own was the President of the United States. It makes a rather powerful argument that opportunity was there. To whom did they have the need to "feel superior?"
Perhaps the Irish fought the forced busing of their children because they felt that, rather than raising the standard where it needed to be raised, their children were being forced toward the lowest common denominator as far as schools went. If that was their objection it was one of substance.
Not one Confederate officer was ever tried for treason. The only traitor on either side that I'm aware of was General David Twiggs who surrendered about twenty US facilities to Confederate officials prior to Ft. Sumter.
Yes indeed "both siderism" because the words and deeds of all involved on both sides in the context in which they took place are the only way to evaluate the conflict. I'm not revising anything. Judging one of the belligerents in a conflict 150+ years ago by the standards of the 2017 Georgetown social sciences faculty and the other by those of the time of the conflict is ahistorical and dishonest if an accurate appraisal is the goal. It may not be.
Respectfully
Just to complete the record, Salem has a memorial to the victims (along with a museum, an annual re-enactment of one of the trials, and yes, all the tourist trap stuff): http://www.salemweb.com/mem.... Unfortunately, I've only visited around Halloween, when there is a loud, brightly lit carnival in the background and rowdy crowds all over, and the memorial is right next to some Halloween-y attractions about ghosts or vampires or monsters or something. Don't get me wrong -- I love Salem at Halloween -- but I really need to get there at another time when I can better appreciate the solemnity of the site.
Yawn. I bow to your need to feel superior.
Tk: There's neither inferiority nor superiority, implied or indicated, in an accurate accounting of what one observes over a period of years. It just is.
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This isn't the only instance of someone pushing this dumb analogy. At WorldNetDaily (of course), columnist Ted Baehr bizarrely claimed Dachau had been "cleaned up, sanitized and almost turned into a park" where its concentration-camp background had been "scrubbed and sanitized" (pretty sure that's actually not the case), then asserted, "If you remove all the Confederate monuments and statues in the United States, people will no longer be able to talk about the history of the Confederacy during the Civil War, including the part slavery played in how that war began and how it developed during the four years in which it occurred, or all the many people who died during the war and why."
http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/...
Um, no, Ted, that's not why the Confederate monuments were built. Also, Ted will be happy to learn of this amazing invention called books that talk about the history of the Confederacy ad nauseam.
I've been to Dachau and the only sanitizing was done by the SS just as the Allied Forces were about to arrive. All of the original barracks were destroyed but many of the original buildings have been preserved. The admin buildings, guard towers and "no-man's land", fences and crematorium are still standing. The Germans have built a few replicas of the barracks. Plaques state exactly what happened. For instance, in the crematorium there is a hook attached to rafter. There is a sign written in German, Russian, Hebrew and English that reads, "Prisoners were hanged from here." Turned into a park, my ass. There isn't enough rain in the world to ever wash the evil that still hangs in the air. The present day Germans have done an admirable job preserving the evidence of what previous generations did. I'd say Ted Baehr is a piece of shit but at least you can use shit for fertilizer.
Who cares?
But that's PRECISELY how the Nazis viewed it, as unconscionable as that is to you and I. It's important to relate just how barbaric they were, and how calm and bureaucratic they were in the process.
I visited a death camp in Poland. Rest assured, it wasn't "scrubbed and sanitized." All you have to do is look at the mounds of shoes.
Nazis have marched before, but they were definitely encouraged by the Bigot-in-Chief. They've never been so brazen and so ready to start violence before.
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Stutthoff Death Camp
live oaks or GTFO! we don't have birch trees this far south. the only birch I see on a regular basis are items from AK.
White culture is the default culture of the US. The white perspective is the default perspective. White language is the default language. White people occupy the positions of power. White people make all the laws. White people made racism. White people perpetuate racism.
If white people are serious about ending racism, then we should give up some claims to our heritage and history and culture that signify oppression of others and continue to injure minority groups. It won't hurt us to do that, but it will help the groups we've oppressed.
Now that you mention it, I am getting a bit of Confederacy fatigue.
And I don't recall seeing any statues of NAZI generals.