Dems need to set aside the billionaires thing. That's the last war, and we lost it. Right now we're in a constitutional crisis, and if we don't deal with that, we're never doing to be able to stop the upward movement of wealth.
This is why I don't see Bernie or Elizabeth Warren as the saviors of the party or of the country.
The Guardian piece gets it right. Elon Musk and the tech billionaires don't even get mentioned until the 22nd graf. We've got bigger problems now and we'd better wake up to that soon.
Uhm, they're the same problem. The corporation hierarchy is inherently fascistic. So of course corporate overlords are going to be fascistic. And money buys power, the corporate overlords have the first and want the second. So they buy governments.
I'm exhausted. I spent more time than I should have today arguing with yet another centrist liberal over my right to exist as a trans person. Isn't the first time. His position was literally, "trans people are losing Democrats elections, so Democrats need to stop talking about trans people"
And it went downhill from there. Everything that you can think would have been implied by that statement eventually was written outright.
I'm exhausted. But I didn't come here to write about how tired I am.
I came here to write about centrists, like Schumer, and his last final betrayal of the people that voted for him. He stands of shoulders of centrist giants like Manchin and Sinema who were betraying their constituents before it was cool.
And if you ask me, I see the average age of our liberal representatives, and I am not surprised they're still playing from a book that was written when Bill Clinton won. The people that were infants when that happened are adults with back pain and cancer now. And they're being fucked.
YOUR SHIT DOESN"T WORK.
STOP BLAMING PROGRESSIVES
STOP BETRAYING YOUR VOTERS
AND LISTEN TO YOUR FUCKING BETTERS, YOU ARROGANT ASININE FAILURES OF PUBLIC "SERVANTS"
I've put up with them blaming the left for their own failures for years. Look where it got us.
Fuck all of you useless backstabbing moderates. You ARE the fucking problem.
These two hacks are part of the democrat deception. As a radical Trotskyite and no troll BTW I have to say your dedication to the democrat party is very disappointing. How many times will these political charlatans build hopes up only to demoralize their voters with abandonment?
BTW i am withdrawing my financial support to Wonkers because of your devotion to democrap party. i will read it free and avoid the stupidity of paying for the worthless stuff
I watched the Denver speeches, and AOC's made me tear right up, then look for something useful I can contribute to this fight. It was straight out of a Frank Capra movie.
"To those who came tonight unsure whether or not this is the right place for you where you belong... you do... If you are willing to fight for someone you don't know you are welcome here."
Prezactly… NO ONE! Not even Schumer wants be on losing TEAM SCHUMER, votes to appease nazifascists, sell a warning about antisemitism when he’s not prepared sacrifice a citizens United kickback for all the Democrat(ic? I swear I can never remember cuz I still don’t know which bothers us, blame it on my adhd) voters he’s “leading” from way waaaaaaaay behind weakest shit oppo to Nazis party overall especially leadership EVAH! I don’t want to be on same team if it’s team Schumer vote to empower fascists at Americans expense
"Last night, Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez kicked off their Fighting Oligarchy tour in Las Vegas, Nevada, and Tempe, Arizona, selling out a massive 5,000-person arena with probably even more people outside."
* It's really difficult to have any empathy for Chuck "McConnell" Schumer when there are *real* Dem Congressional leaders like AOC, Sanders, and Jeffries fighting the good fight and nor rolling over for belly rubs from the RINOs.
* Selling out a 5000 seat arena is chump change when compared to the 100,000-250,000 people the Fulvous Fuckwad draws to his rallies.
* The Dems are lying through their teeth. I don't see how the Dems can attract even 500 people to listen to them during their preaching and complaining tour. It's obvious, to me at least, that Mooseballs Mussolini will *always* get, geometrically, more attendees to listen to his ranting and raving than any Dem could dream of.
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"But what did they do, exactly, to draw such crowds?"
My money's on bribery. There's no way that the Dems can draw anyone into their rallies without paying the attendees for their wasted time.
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"Like if Gavin Newsom were out there trying to rally all the people who think he’s a shoo-in for 2028 (please no) instead of … doing a podcast in which he highlights how fabulously reasonable Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon are."
Newsom has triangulated beyond trying to show his centrist side (which doesn't exist) and looks to be attempting to woo Right wingnuts into supporting him. I wish him luck considering, IMO, he has no chance of recruiting Buttigieg's, Pritzker's, Beshear's, or Ms Harris' (should she choose to run in 2028) followers to his cause.
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"Right now, we really all kind of need to be on the same team"
Ms Pennacchia, please forward this to Sen Schumer who is acting like a DINO coddling the other side of the aisle, and *not* like the leader of the opposition. He's acting like it's 2015 at the latest; he seems to believe that the RINOs of today are open to negotiations on legislation and wouldn't lie to him about their intentions. The RINOs being open to Dem wonts is as likely to occur as Scrooge McDuck giving his wealth away to charities.
If you say so, Ace. I've been a card-carrying pope in the Church of Eris Esoteric since 1976. Your credentials to tell me to disassociate (not that I really give a fuck about your opinion of me)?
IOW, leck mich am Arsch, 消え失せろ, φίλησε τον κώλο μου, götümü öp, bésame el trasero, or however you care to say it.
Dear Christ in condom, if ONLY Schumer was as effective as McConnell. We all screaming, screeeeeaming!, “hey oppo to Nazis selling America for rubles on the dollar!?! WTF would Mitch do, thwart U tryna provide basic health insurance to Americans? What would single brain celled coach tuber brains do to thwart Dem party IN power, to block Dem military noms, while Dems in power and omfg how is Tuberville outsmarting alll the dem house critters? So obvi, WhatTF would Mitch & coachtuberbrains do of the situation was reversed?! DO THAT!!!
“* Selling out a 5000 seat arena is chump change when compared to the 100,000-250,000 people the Fulvous Fuckwad draws to his rallies.
…The Dems are lying through their teeth. I don't see how the Dems can attract even 500 people to listen to them during their preaching and complaining tour. It's obvious, to me at least, that Mooseballs Mussolini will *always* get, geometrically, more attendees to listen to his ranting and raving than any Dem could dream of.”
I'm sorry, I thought that my sarcasm was rather obvious. While the ~100k attendees has been mentioned by someone besides a Fulvous Fuckwad lackey -- his NJ shore rally (but this is the same crowd that made Snooki a star, so...) -- but contrary to his claims, Mooseballs Mussolini never held a rally in a venue that could come close to holding 200k groupies, the reported Madison Square Garden lovefest:
According to Madison Square Garden Entertainment’s filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, the arena’s maximum capacity is approximately 21,000 seats.
For Trump’s rally, the venue was configured to hold around 19,500 attendees, as reported by outlets like USA TODAY and The Hill. This falls significantly short of the 200,000 attendees claimed on social media." [ibid]
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> "So far in 2024, CCC has logged 37 political rallies at which former president Donald Trump appeared, and we have information on crowd size for 28 of them. Across those 28 rallies and using our standard estimation rules (see below), the average crowd size has been about 5,600.
He’s waaay too cowardlyin chuck soft & squishy on citizens united free$$ $peech have answer to his constituents as leader our party , again omfg after 2024, seconded by omfg omfg dick Durbin… he just wanted us wear spectacles and pay him show up warn us about threat that’s already here and he, as Leader, warns us about but abso lacks the character at this point effectively (or at all!) oppose ../ that’s sum chuckyfucky jerkoff he’s tryna make us pay him for… again…
I lost all shreds of respect for Dick Durbin on June 21, 2005, when he blubbered out an abject apology for comparing American interrogators at Guantanamo Bay to Nazis. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna8307379
I don't think Hayes went much further than not letting Schumer off the hook – more of that please! Schumer then blithely dug his own grave by insisting we weren't in a crisis yet, and actually using the phrase "keep our powder dry".
WASHINGTON--Warning that the charge carried a five-year mandatory minimum sentence, the U.S. Department of Justice declared Friday that the distribution of images featuring a balding Elon Musk constituted an act of domestic terrorism. "For the benefit of all Americans, anyone who posts or reposts photos from Mr. Musk's PayPal days will be prosecuted for terrorism," said Attorney General Pam Bondi, who confirmed the Justice Department was already prosecuting multiple cases in which social media users were alleged to have disseminated decades-old photos of the DOGE leader's receding hairline. "Anyone who likes or replies to the photos will be treated as a terrorist sympathizer. If you possess these images, delete them now. Elon Musk is a patriot with a great American hairline." At press time, President Donald Trump was showing his support for Musk by getting hair plugs in a televised press conference on the White House South Lawn.
I told some dooods when they were first drooling over Ivanka the first time she showed up waving at people is that she looked nothing like that before the 8 figures worth of surgery
Messing with Soc Sec is indistinguishable from theft. Isn't theft illegal in every jurisdiction? If they start screwing with Soc Sec, why can't they be charged with criminal theft?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/mar/22/trump-administration-authoritarianism
Dems need to set aside the billionaires thing. That's the last war, and we lost it. Right now we're in a constitutional crisis, and if we don't deal with that, we're never doing to be able to stop the upward movement of wealth.
This is why I don't see Bernie or Elizabeth Warren as the saviors of the party or of the country.
The Guardian piece gets it right. Elon Musk and the tech billionaires don't even get mentioned until the 22nd graf. We've got bigger problems now and we'd better wake up to that soon.
Uhm, they're the same problem. The corporation hierarchy is inherently fascistic. So of course corporate overlords are going to be fascistic. And money buys power, the corporate overlords have the first and want the second. So they buy governments.
They are related but not the same.
I'm exhausted. I spent more time than I should have today arguing with yet another centrist liberal over my right to exist as a trans person. Isn't the first time. His position was literally, "trans people are losing Democrats elections, so Democrats need to stop talking about trans people"
And it went downhill from there. Everything that you can think would have been implied by that statement eventually was written outright.
I'm exhausted. But I didn't come here to write about how tired I am.
I came here to write about centrists, like Schumer, and his last final betrayal of the people that voted for him. He stands of shoulders of centrist giants like Manchin and Sinema who were betraying their constituents before it was cool.
And if you ask me, I see the average age of our liberal representatives, and I am not surprised they're still playing from a book that was written when Bill Clinton won. The people that were infants when that happened are adults with back pain and cancer now. And they're being fucked.
YOUR SHIT DOESN"T WORK.
STOP BLAMING PROGRESSIVES
STOP BETRAYING YOUR VOTERS
AND LISTEN TO YOUR FUCKING BETTERS, YOU ARROGANT ASININE FAILURES OF PUBLIC "SERVANTS"
I've put up with them blaming the left for their own failures for years. Look where it got us.
Fuck all of you useless backstabbing moderates. You ARE the fucking problem.
These two hacks are part of the democrat deception. As a radical Trotskyite and no troll BTW I have to say your dedication to the democrat party is very disappointing. How many times will these political charlatans build hopes up only to demoralize their voters with abandonment?
The website is literally called wonkette. Look up what a wonk is and try to figure out why a wonk would talk about political parties.
Probably just a russian bot, but if you got lost dear Comrade I think you were looking for the faux news website.
BTW i am withdrawing my financial support to Wonkers because of your devotion to democrap party. i will read it free and avoid the stupidity of paying for the worthless stuff
Thank you!
I watched the Denver speeches, and AOC's made me tear right up, then look for something useful I can contribute to this fight. It was straight out of a Frank Capra movie.
"To those who came tonight unsure whether or not this is the right place for you where you belong... you do... If you are willing to fight for someone you don't know you are welcome here."
I'm so done with most of the Democrats who are, at best, spineless and at worst, corrupt. AOC gives me hope we could build a better party.
Sure, this is all well and good, but when is Wonkette going to start covering SCHUMER’S BOOK TOUR, AHUUH???
Prezactly… NO ONE! Not even Schumer wants be on losing TEAM SCHUMER, votes to appease nazifascists, sell a warning about antisemitism when he’s not prepared sacrifice a citizens United kickback for all the Democrat(ic? I swear I can never remember cuz I still don’t know which bothers us, blame it on my adhd) voters he’s “leading” from way waaaaaaaay behind weakest shit oppo to Nazis party overall especially leadership EVAH! I don’t want to be on same team if it’s team Schumer vote to empower fascists at Americans expense
He's doing the TV shows instead of actually facing people
Hey I was there yesterday!!! It was great! Love AOC!
Thank you Robyn, for this column!
"Last night, Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez kicked off their Fighting Oligarchy tour in Las Vegas, Nevada, and Tempe, Arizona, selling out a massive 5,000-person arena with probably even more people outside."
* It's really difficult to have any empathy for Chuck "McConnell" Schumer when there are *real* Dem Congressional leaders like AOC, Sanders, and Jeffries fighting the good fight and nor rolling over for belly rubs from the RINOs.
* Selling out a 5000 seat arena is chump change when compared to the 100,000-250,000 people the Fulvous Fuckwad draws to his rallies.
* The Dems are lying through their teeth. I don't see how the Dems can attract even 500 people to listen to them during their preaching and complaining tour. It's obvious, to me at least, that Mooseballs Mussolini will *always* get, geometrically, more attendees to listen to his ranting and raving than any Dem could dream of.
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"But what did they do, exactly, to draw such crowds?"
My money's on bribery. There's no way that the Dems can draw anyone into their rallies without paying the attendees for their wasted time.
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"Like if Gavin Newsom were out there trying to rally all the people who think he’s a shoo-in for 2028 (please no) instead of … doing a podcast in which he highlights how fabulously reasonable Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon are."
Newsom has triangulated beyond trying to show his centrist side (which doesn't exist) and looks to be attempting to woo Right wingnuts into supporting him. I wish him luck considering, IMO, he has no chance of recruiting Buttigieg's, Pritzker's, Beshear's, or Ms Harris' (should she choose to run in 2028) followers to his cause.
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"Right now, we really all kind of need to be on the same team"
Ms Pennacchia, please forward this to Sen Schumer who is acting like a DINO coddling the other side of the aisle, and *not* like the leader of the opposition. He's acting like it's 2015 at the latest; he seems to believe that the RINOs of today are open to negotiations on legislation and wouldn't lie to him about their intentions. The RINOs being open to Dem wonts is as likely to occur as Scrooge McDuck giving his wealth away to charities.
fnord
Change your fucking name, you don't deserve association with Our Lady Of Perpetual Confusion.
If you say so, Ace. I've been a card-carrying pope in the Church of Eris Esoteric since 1976. Your credentials to tell me to disassociate (not that I really give a fuck about your opinion of me)?
IOW, leck mich am Arsch, 消え失せろ, φίλησε τον κώλο μου, götümü öp, bésame el trasero, or however you care to say it.
fnord
That's it! Time for another schism!
Seriously, what kind of Discordian has been part of the same church / sect / cult / banana appreciation society for decades?
I'm sure Schumer reads 'Chuck "McConnell" Schumer' as a compliment – It's so wonderfully bipartisan!
Dear Christ in condom, if ONLY Schumer was as effective as McConnell. We all screaming, screeeeeaming!, “hey oppo to Nazis selling America for rubles on the dollar!?! WTF would Mitch do, thwart U tryna provide basic health insurance to Americans? What would single brain celled coach tuber brains do to thwart Dem party IN power, to block Dem military noms, while Dems in power and omfg how is Tuberville outsmarting alll the dem house critters? So obvi, WhatTF would Mitch & coachtuberbrains do of the situation was reversed?! DO THAT!!!
“* Selling out a 5000 seat arena is chump change when compared to the 100,000-250,000 people the Fulvous Fuckwad draws to his rallies.
…The Dems are lying through their teeth. I don't see how the Dems can attract even 500 people to listen to them during their preaching and complaining tour. It's obvious, to me at least, that Mooseballs Mussolini will *always* get, geometrically, more attendees to listen to his ranting and raving than any Dem could dream of.”
Wait, what?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-atlanta-crowd-size-compared-kamala-harris-ann-arbor-event-1976378
I'm sorry, I thought that my sarcasm was rather obvious. While the ~100k attendees has been mentioned by someone besides a Fulvous Fuckwad lackey -- his NJ shore rally (but this is the same crowd that made Snooki a star, so...) -- but contrary to his claims, Mooseballs Mussolini never held a rally in a venue that could come close to holding 200k groupies, the reported Madison Square Garden lovefest:
> "the crowd size at former US President Donald Trump’s recent rally at New York City’s Madison Square Garden, with some claims suggesting attendance reached nearly 200,000." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/did-200000-people-attend-donald-trumps-madison-square-garden-rally-heres-the-truth/articleshow/114853795.cms
But nah-hah:
> "Venue Capacity Confirms 20,000 Limit
According to Madison Square Garden Entertainment’s filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, the arena’s maximum capacity is approximately 21,000 seats.
For Trump’s rally, the venue was configured to hold around 19,500 attendees, as reported by outlets like USA TODAY and The Hill. This falls significantly short of the 200,000 attendees claimed on social media." [ibid]
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> "So far in 2024, CCC has logged 37 political rallies at which former president Donald Trump appeared, and we have information on crowd size for 28 of them. Across those 28 rallies and using our standard estimation rules (see below), the average crowd size has been about 5,600.
...
Vice President Harris has appeared at six campaign rallies. The reported crowd sizes at those rallies have ranged from about 10,000 to about 15,000, and we calculate an average size across the six of about 13,400." https://ash.harvard.edu/articles/the-real-numbers-tracking-crowd-sizes-at-presidential-rallies/
IOW, I wasn't sleeping through 2024, and I know the difference between reality and the bovine scat of the Mango Malignancy's alternative reality.
fnord
They’re in Tucson, AZ tomorrow at a high school football stadium!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmo3HFa2vjg
Public Enemy — Fight The Power
Good. Better that a fucking Chuck Schumer book tour to nowhere.
it would have been fun to go to one, though.
He’s waaay too cowardlyin chuck soft & squishy on citizens united free$$ $peech have answer to his constituents as leader our party , again omfg after 2024, seconded by omfg omfg dick Durbin… he just wanted us wear spectacles and pay him show up warn us about threat that’s already here and he, as Leader, warns us about but abso lacks the character at this point effectively (or at all!) oppose ../ that’s sum chuckyfucky jerkoff he’s tryna make us pay him for… again…
I lost all shreds of respect for Dick Durbin on June 21, 2005, when he blubbered out an abject apology for comparing American interrogators at Guantanamo Bay to Nazis. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna8307379
Yet here he is, 20 years later, welcoming the actual Nazis
all due respect to Chris Hayes, but i would never have thought he'd be ripping Schumer apart like that.
Extraordinary times call for extraordinary responses
I don't think Hayes went much further than not letting Schumer off the hook – more of that please! Schumer then blithely dug his own grave by insisting we weren't in a crisis yet, and actually using the phrase "keep our powder dry".
He’s so full of citizen$ untied B$
Fighting oligarchy doesn't necessarily roll off the tongue- how about the Eat the Rich tour?
Fighting Fuckwit Fascists is alliterative and also true.
Meat's too fatty to be Soylent Green
"Render the Rich". Gives plausible deniability: "Oh we meant send them to an offshore black site, not boil them down for the fat!"
That could make good stock.
Nah, already rancid.
GO, AOC AND BERNIE! TELL IT!
Oh damn THE ONION STRIKES AGAIN!
DOJ Designates Posting Photos Of Balding Elon Musk As Domestic Terrorism
https://theonion.com/doj-designates-posting-photos-of-balding-elon-musk-as-domestic-terrorism/?mc_cid=8a83ccfed5&mc_eid=7869421aa2
WASHINGTON--Warning that the charge carried a five-year mandatory minimum sentence, the U.S. Department of Justice declared Friday that the distribution of images featuring a balding Elon Musk constituted an act of domestic terrorism. "For the benefit of all Americans, anyone who posts or reposts photos from Mr. Musk's PayPal days will be prosecuted for terrorism," said Attorney General Pam Bondi, who confirmed the Justice Department was already prosecuting multiple cases in which social media users were alleged to have disseminated decades-old photos of the DOGE leader's receding hairline. "Anyone who likes or replies to the photos will be treated as a terrorist sympathizer. If you possess these images, delete them now. Elon Musk is a patriot with a great American hairline." At press time, President Donald Trump was showing his support for Musk by getting hair plugs in a televised press conference on the White House South Lawn.
Elno is Herr Plugs
Ohh! They made a joke!
He looks like Ralph Wiggum in real life.
Especially before all the surgery
And the reason they call him Herr Pluggs
I told some dooods when they were first drooling over Ivanka the first time she showed up waving at people is that she looked nothing like that before the 8 figures worth of surgery
Not the cheeks, chin, books, hair, nothing
Just like Elon
"Hair Plugs For Men™"
Messing with Soc Sec is indistinguishable from theft. Isn't theft illegal in every jurisdiction? If they start screwing with Soc Sec, why can't they be charged with criminal theft?
Norms, and probably a memo.
THEFT
who's gonna charge them? Pam Bondi?
That's the rub. Still, IANAL but it seems to me that anyone who has paid into Soc Sec would have standing.
If they illegally detain and deport people why can't they be charged?
Because the same people illegally deporting people refuse to prosecute these thieves because they are waiting for their cut
In a word: corruption
They can. Who's going to arrest them or serve the warrant?
Exactly
https://www.wonkette.com/p/lets-watch-bernie-and-aoc-fight-the/comment/102406051
Bingo.