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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Evan. A big fucking deal, indeed.

I'm unusual for a senior citizen; I have no health problems. Many (if not most) of my fellow seniors do, and many of them require expensive drugs.

Tecolote's avatar

I was watching MSNBC's broadcast of the President's speech, and the host just started talking over it, and then switched off the feed. Switched over to here in order to hear it in its entirely.

These MSM jerks recently camera-followed PAB's motorcade from his shit palace to the airport, to the ATL airport and the subsequent parade to the courthouse. They could fill all that time with dead air forever but the President announcing plans to reduce drug prices for millions of Americans is just too boring. I'm sure that later on the same talking heads will be moaning about Biden not getting his message out to the people.

RRJKR's avatar

Republican spin: Biden/ Harris promises free drugs to aging hippies!!

Stanta Knows's avatar

This is good news, and for me personally. Although the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has already handled the two on that list that I depend on, now (if I ever retire) I can get them from Medicare. Thanks Uncle Joe.

BillEGoatSmile's avatar

Hi Joe. Just thought I'd ask, being that we're on the subject of health...could you maybe release some free OTC Covid testing kits, at least for the poors and the olds and the disabled folks? It's getting to be that time of year again. Thx.

SkeptiKC's avatar

Keynesian-based economics; they work for everyone.

That's what Rethuglicons resent so damned mightily; policies like Bidenomics benefit everyone rather than exclusively giving the upper hand to some.

calliecallie, aka pollyanna's avatar

Mr. cc takes three of those ten medications. We are on Medicare. He says "so it won't save us anything."

This is what they're going to need to remind all those seniors about. We PAY for Medicare. Our tax dollars at work, plus some of our social security goes toward it too. So even if it won't save us out of pocket costs on the medications, it will save us all in the long run.

More of this, please, President Joe. And thank you.

goCatgo's avatar

You are right.

He is wrong.

abbienormal's avatar

Joe keeps this up and he improves the funded status of Medicare.

Whatwhomever's avatar

It will save people money, and it will actually save lives if people aren’t forced to try to stretch out their scrips, or choose between their meds or eating or paying rent.

Larry Schmitt's avatar

Just remember, the original prices the drug companies and doctors and hospitals claim for a drug or a procedure are meaningless. Just look at any EOB from your insurance or Medicare. They "charge" $300, but the various regulations say they can only charge so much, so that's what they have to accept. Same with drugs. I hear ads for GoodRx, for people without insurance. You can either pay the full price, or get a free card from GoodRx, and you get an immediate discount. Who's paying for those discounts? We have allowed the healthcare industry to run roughshod over us, and it doesn't happen in any other developed country.

P. Von Fildo's avatar

When I’m in dialysis and need a Tylenol for pain, it is $200.00. Why so much? They have to go through the pharmacy to get it, have the doctor prescribe it, have a nurse deliver it all before I get my single Tylenol. So, I bring my own and dispense at will.

Richard S's avatar

A bit of a 'splainer (near the end of the essay) on drug pricing:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/27/medicare-drug-price-value-00111346

[Drug companies are] profit-making enterprises that pay close attention to economic incentives. They aren’t necessarily paid more for drugs that are more valuable for human health; they’re paid, instead, for drugs that *sell*. And because marginally effective drugs can be sold for exorbitant amounts, a lot of research dollars are plowed into drug candidates that aren’t that valuable.

By the same token, too little is invested in potentially valuable drugs with limited sales potential. There’s a desperate need for new antibiotics, for example, to serve as a last line of defense to “superbugs.” According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, antimicrobial resistance kills an estimated 35,000 people in the United States every year. And the problem is getting worse as bacteria evolve and develop resistance to more and more classes of antibiotics.

But we’re not filling the antibiotic pipeline. A big reason why is that preserving the efficacy of new antibiotics would require limiting their use to when they were truly needed. Fewer pills mean fewer sales, however, which is why nearly all large drug companies have left the market. A similar story accounts for the relative dearth of investment into neglected tropical diseases that afflict millions worldwide.

Lady MS's avatar

Had a close brush with the Reaper in ‘95, with post-op staph infection. Bugs are smarter and more resilient than humans. Pharma co. subsidies directed toward emerging germ antibiotics should be rewarded by making them available at cost when actually needed.

John Thorstensen's avatar

Yeah, $2k for a five-minute cystoscopy where the doc just takes a look and says "yup! No cancer!" seems a little on the steep side. The insurance company bargains this down to $1.98 or something.

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Larry Schmitt's avatar

And the only way to save money on healthcare is to just die.

Oblio's Cap's avatar

And now we wait....

My infusion treatment was tomorrow AM at 8:20. Landfall for Idialia. It was cancelled. I wasn't driving in that shit in any event.

SkeptiKC's avatar

Just keep yourself safe, love.

Or.G's avatar

Lowering drug prices wouldn't be fair to people who died because they couldn't afford their drugs.

SkeptiKC's avatar

And Uncle Joe means every damned word of it.

Chemical's avatar

Times like this make me incredibly thankful that we have a normal President.

Whatwhomever's avatar

He’s better than normal. He’s good.

Oblio's Cap's avatar

Bring on the cheap drugs!

Goonemeritus's avatar

But if the lower the cost to be sick won't more people feel they can afford it, and then run after the cool, trendy diseases like consumption?

Crystalclear12's avatar

I heard having thin blood is fashionable right now.

Oblio's Cap's avatar

Great. Now everyone is going g to want to get diabetes.

Goonemeritus's avatar

Not to mention wasting disease, that waif look is coming back.

Parakeetist's avatar

OT: https://apnews.com/article/university-north-carolina-chapel-hill-shooting-a5eb7268934f7f416b7cfa2e2e3e24db

"A judge on Tuesday ordered a University of North Carolina graduate student held without bond on charges alleging that he shot and killed his faculty advisor."

Linda's Bitter Disappointment's avatar

I thought he'd gotten a 200k bail, and I was afraid that some winger would pay it.

swmnguy's avatar

Nah, he's Chinese. US Fascists won't bail him. Not that there will be bail anyway.

swmnguy's avatar

"Authorities haven’t said publicly if they suspect a motive for the attack."

Grad student kills his academic advisor. Start looking there.

Both are Chinese, which might be irrelevant. It's a graduate Engineering/Computer Science department. Might be theses, jobs, careers on the line. High-pressure stuff among people not always known for the smoothest interpersonal dynamics.

Villago Delenda Est 🇺🇦's avatar

This is like, DUH, I think there's a motive here sitting right out in the fucking open.

swmnguy's avatar

I'm taking a cheap shot at the cops. Of course they know exactly what happened; or very nearly so. They just need to talk to people before they blab it all over. I get it. It's just that the standard disclaimers are so stupid-sounding.

This would be the kind of murder the cops actually can solve. There are people there who can and will tell them who did what and why, before they wrap up the initial crime scene visit.

When that doesn't happen; those are the crimes they can't solve.

Villago Delenda Est 🇺🇦's avatar

Yeah, legal reasons for not just coming out and stating the painfully obvious. Can't taint the jury pool, etc.

swmnguy's avatar

Yeah. Good enough, and valid, reasons. They do sound stupid, though. So I'll sit in the back and blow raspberries, like the joker I am.

Goonemeritus's avatar

I never would have done more than rough mine up a little, maybe just squeeze his face, in a manner of speaking.

Oblio's Cap's avatar

Dr. Morris Katz. He was highly unpopular.

/s

Goonemeritus's avatar

Mars University has a terrible 360 review process.