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carovee's avatar

OT: Per Crooks and Liars, apparently one of the who helped polish Kyle Rittenhouse prior to trial has a sadz about their role in helping him get away with murder. He is even pulling out the "if I knew then what I know now" card.

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"M"'s avatar

He still would've done the same d*mn thing

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Viole Falusche's avatar

Maybe OT, but maybe not: I'm in California's East Bay, easy walking distance from the Bay. And it's hailing. Right now.

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noname's avatar

Yikes! it's clear in this part of the East Bay. Crazy microclimates here.

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Robert Eckert's avatar

old joke: What's worse than raining cats and dogs? Hailing taxicabs!

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Viole Falusche's avatar

...[A]nd we hail (splat) hail (splat) right on {something or other, dodging banhammer}.

Where is Spike Jones when we need him?

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Viole Falusche's avatar

Twenty minutes later; hail has stopped and {big shining light in sky, what's that called?} is now detectable. Go figure.

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BosGrl's avatar

BUT BUT CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT REAL!!!

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"M"'s avatar

Exxon? That you?

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Daniel's avatar

Are you saying that it's literally never hailed anywhere in the world at all at any point in human history before?!

Stupid libs, my god.

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BosGrl's avatar

I thought it never rained in California! I was warned! And hail is just frozen rain that angels formed into tiny rabbit tails.

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Eileen's avatar

It pours, man, it pours.

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swmnguy's avatar

No, that's Southern California where it never rains.

I think.

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BosGrl's avatar

Well, it's confusing. Says "southern" at the beginning, but the chorus damns the whole state.

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swmnguy's avatar

The guy who wrote it was a Limey, so he may not have had any idea how big California is.

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swmnguy's avatar

OR IT IS REAL BUT IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, AND IF THERE'S GLOBAL WARMING WHY DOES IT STILL SNOW????

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Viole Falusche's avatar

Seeing hail here at noon on Jane Goodall's birthday is, or used to be, unusual.

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BosGrl's avatar

Darn it - too smart for my stupit lib brain.

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blueicebank's avatar

OT. How man people really died from Covid? LawyersGunsMoney blog reports on an Economist study.

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/04/the-true-covid-death-toll

Shorter: between 18.5 million and 35.2 million people got dead.

Still short of the 1918 pandemic, with upwards of 50 million dead. Possibly same number of people dead from the Bubonic Plague, which claimed about 50% of Europe's 14th century population. Now, the Toba volcanic eruption 74,000 years ago killed enough of us to create a (theoretical) genetic bottleneck, from which we somehow bounced back.

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Tetman Callis's avatar

"a (theoretical) genetic bottleneck, from which we somehow bounced back."

We come from a long line of avid fuckers.

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blueicebank's avatar

"I hear there are Neanderthals up north. I get tingly all inside just thinking about it."

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TootsStansbury 🇺🇦's avatar

“I fucked two friends, and then they fucked two friends…”

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Boaty the plural's avatar

And pretty soon we had a whole scene!

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swmnguy's avatar

There's been so little effort to quantify the human cost of COVID, I can't imagine it's unintentional.

About a year ago I read a long (for them) story on CNN's website, about the upheaval in the US labor market. In maybe the third to last paragraph, the article cited Department of Labor estimates that between 16 million and 24 million Americans had left the labor market since the onset of COVID, including 7 million more than usual over such a timespan taking early Social Security. Perhaps 10 million unable to work due to Long COVID. Others not working because they realized the second income actually cost the household more money than it brought in, on net.

No wonder the political class has no interest in lengthy, public, discussion of the topic.

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BosGrl's avatar

Damn.

"Oh, Sarah, it's just a little rat bite. You'll live! Everybody's making a big, huge thing about nothing!"

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Daniel's avatar

It's important to remember that back then people would have been noticeably shorter than they are today. Also, scientists speculate that 74,000 years ago predates the invention of the snorkel, which might also have assisted survival from deep flows of lava.

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WomanInThePersistence's avatar

OT I just needed a break from the WCK thread.

I fucking HATE this timeline.

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"M"'s avatar

It's all coming from the same place

White supremacy

Remember when Jared tried to kill all the people in the blue states by refusing to send PPP or vaccines because "they're OURS" (a direct quote of his) and also he's too stupid to know that airborne viruses can & do cross state lines ... and because of White privilege and White resentment he still ended up in the White House, unqualified, with a security clearance his Confederate FIL overrode the intelligence agencies recommendations to give him , with an additional treason bonus of $2B, well ...

Well ... he's Bibi Netanyahu's godson. (If you by some chance didn't remember.)

It's all connected.

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IdRatherBeDancing's avatar

Judge Loose Cannon gonna get appealed and lose and get removed from the case. She gonna lose her jerb. She gona lose her jerb.

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TootsStansbury 🇺🇦's avatar

She would deserve it. I’m impatient to see people getting what they deserve.

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IdRatherBeDancing's avatar

She 100% deserves it and deserves the wrath that the 11th Circuit Appeals Court will send her way . . . Again

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JamesSmith's avatar

OT Judge Cannon is over her head

"Judge Cannon denies Trump's motion to dismiss the Mar-a-Lago classified docs case on Presidential Records Act grounds "

"Judge Cannon also declines Special Counsel's request that she make clear her position on jury instructions, rebuking it as "unprecedented and unjust""

https://x.com/hugolowell/status/1775960315055755589?s=20

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Schmannity's avatar

Leonard Leo at the wheel

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carovee's avatar

Someone's at the wheel. Is it Cannon herself or someone else? Hard to say since she was manifestly unqualified from the get-go.

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Daniel's avatar

As Bobby Kennedy said "Never trust a man with two first names. Especially not when those two first names are basically the same."

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Schmannity's avatar

I wonder how his nephew John John felt about that

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Boaty the plural's avatar

Lead Balloon alert.

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JanuaryClaire's avatar

I'd ask what she's playing at, but I suspect she doesn't know either.

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JamesSmith's avatar

she doesn't want to tell Smith how much in the bag for Trump she really is.

she wants to save Trump.

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Tetman Callis's avatar

The poor dear. Bless her heart, she's doing the best she can.

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swmnguy's avatar

She's now pushed Smith into a corner. He has to try to get her removed from the case, or the case moved, or something. Because if the trial starts with her absurd, non-legal and non-lawful jury instructions shenanigans, I understand it can't be used on appeal; something like that.

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JamesSmith's avatar

what I read is once a jury is empaneled, Smith won't be able to retry the case because double jeopardy sets in.

that's why he wanted Cannon to tell him how much she was going to lick Trump's taint before the trial started

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IdRatherBeDancing's avatar

That is correct. That is the reason for the threat of mandamus which clearly pissed her off -- but WTF? What else he is supposed to do. She's a goner and expect the 11th Circuit to brutalize her .... AGAIN

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Cryny's avatar

They need to brutalize her off the case entirely this time.

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IdRatherBeDancing's avatar

I think it is a given. She is NOT impartial.

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Cryny's avatar

Well yeah, that's been obvious from the beginning, but she's still on the case.

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swmnguy's avatar

Yeah, OK; that's what I'd read. I just didn't recall it as clearly as you did. Thanks!

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Mr blob's avatar

It’s almost like there’s a reason you don’t appoint unqualified heritage foundation water boys into positions of power, even if they’re nakedly unapologetically partisan

Legal things can be hard. Sometimes you need to have someone who has even the basic idea what to do

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Being released's avatar

Is Trump going to start raging at her now? That would be fun.

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Raccoon of Vengeance's avatar

The presidential band "No Labels" has broken up on account of it sucked.

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Rhand Holm's avatar

No coincidence that they're falling apart without Lieberman.

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JamesSmith's avatar

no point for No Labels since RFK Jr. is being supported by the same donors

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Mr blob's avatar

I’m sure this is only after “put Joe Lieberman in glasses and carefully puppet him through a weekend of slapstick 80’s hijinks” was scratched through.

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Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

I hope Dems really hammer the topic of climate change during the heat, storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes of this summer.

Maybe a few more voters will make the connection before the November elections...

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carovee's avatar

I hope so. It's getting harder and harder to pretend all this is just normal and fine.

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Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

It's neither, so I don' bother pretending.

But we've overcome worse enemies than this in the past and we'll overcome them again!

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SunMoonStars's avatar

Have you looked around at the electorate lately? Millions of dumbshits who can't be bothered and would rather ride the conspiracy train and believe dictators.

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Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

I don't see "giving up" as an option.

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SunMoonStars's avatar

I gave up on them years ago and they show little sign of changing besides getting worse. Can't make someone change no matter how hard we try. They have to want it for themselves.

I will never stop telling the truth and fighting for what's right.

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Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

Esp. the impact of climate change on food price$.

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SunMoonStars's avatar

Which is controlled by corporate america and Biden has nothing to do with that or gas and egg prices. The masses are fairly stupid and refuse to educate themselves. Throw in conspiracies and there you have it.

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Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

True, But that doesn't excuse us from the necessity of belaboring the point LOUDLY and repeatedly.

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Prostate of Dorian Gray's avatar

OT Tinnitus suuuuuuuuucks. Mine is crazy loud today.

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IdRatherBeDancing's avatar

Ugh...my right ear is in perpetual ring.

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BosGrl's avatar

It's awful. I can't hear when there's even a little bit of noise, like running water, or talking children.

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Carstonio's avatar

I’ve had it ever since my mildly misspent youth at heavy metal shows. The result is that I lose sibilant sounds in noisy environments. Someone could be sitting next to me and they wouldn’t be as loud as the background noise, and I can hear the sound of their voice but not understand some words properly.

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Daniel's avatar

[makes note if I ever want to assassinate you to use a snake.]

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Boaty the plural's avatar

Mine is more like I "hear" my visual cortex. I can still discern audio signals at low volume and had a good hearing test, but filtering the sensation of noise from the world and noise from my brain is difficult.

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BosGrl's avatar

SEHA (sad ears hear alike)

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Boaty the plural's avatar

Dark rooms and music.

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Boaty the plural's avatar

Have someone try to travel from Raleigh to Charlotte without "Climate Control", and then ask about the climate...

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Prostate of Dorian Gray's avatar

I live in one of those places!

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Boaty the plural's avatar

I used to. Moved as soon as I could to Chicago.

Freaking snowed yesterday.

The local heat sinks (great lakes) aren't ocean sized, but they do affect the weather!

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Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

GIVE 'EM HELL, KAMALA!!!

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Boaty the plural's avatar

Step one to fighting climate change: Understand that if you need AC 24/7, something is wrong.

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SunMoonStars's avatar

Or the constant roller coaster. Last week we had the heat on in the morning and the air conditioning on at night. Yesterday a tornado touched down with hail and its in the 40s today.

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Boaty the plural's avatar

You ever pour syrup and watch as the syrup pile at the bottom of the pour flips back and forth at the base of the syrup stream?

That's the midwest.

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Aquaman, Real Estate Investor.'s avatar

We're going to need to relocate a whole bunch of Americans then.

Or convince them to dramatically renovate their houses.

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swmnguy's avatar

I'm noticing the house thing. My house is 102 years old. It was built to hold in heat. It was not built to handle deluge rainfalls, either. We had to retrofit the insulation, so the house could make use of efficient heating. I've also replaced the windows, including the one at the top of the stairs which wasn't intended to be opened. Putting a fan in that window, now that it opens, whooshes hot air right up the stairs, and opening a downstairs window, creates a very effective airflow.

Most houses built in the past 40-50 years are pretty hard to ventilate properly. They were built on the assumption of central heating and air, and in the thinking that fans and windows were obsolete for ventilaton.

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Aquaman, Real Estate Investor.'s avatar

I've lived in Greece, lots of windows for ventilation, tile floors, shade. It can be tolerable, but even then AC is very nice.

Oh, and bugs, lots and lots of bugs.

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swmnguy's avatar

I'm a big folding screen guy.

AC can be very nice, no question. I'd rather not have to rely on it, however. Certainly not for bare survivability. As heat waves become more intense, widespread and of longer duration; without adequate overnight cooling; this is becoming a life and death issue for billions of people on Earth.

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Aquaman, Real Estate Investor.'s avatar

If we really do reach the point where humans can't live that close to the equator we have really really big problems.

I know people don't like the idea of geo-engineering, but we are going to have to try something.

(although there was very interesting news about increasing carbon capture in agriculture recently!)

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Living in Minneapolis, we only have Central Air because the house came with it. It took me a couple of years to realize the thing didn't work. I did replace it when we replaced the furnace. Yet, we only use it fewer than 10 days a year, and only in the evening hours.

It does get hot here, but not that hot. The humidity is the worst part of it. So we'll run that thing from late afternoon until it gets good and dark, to take water out of the air; and then open up the windows. I prefer open windows and fans, including ceiling fans, myself.

But then, I don't live in Phoenix. Or in the humid South.

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carovee's avatar

I could live without AC on many hot days, but the two human looking furnaces I live with start wilting and complaining the second the temp gets upwards of 75. On the other hand, they are totes comfy when I am layering on my third sweater.

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swmnguy's avatar

When it gets hot, there's only so nekkid one can get. But I have a lot of sweaters.

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swmnguy's avatar

The worst effects of climate change we're seeing here are higher overnight lows. Particularly in winter, but also in summer. And much higher dew points, which we notice more in the summer. The growing season is about a month longer than it was when I was a kid, and we're seeing new species of trees and animals moving northward. Pines are mostly out of this area, replaced by hardwoods once considered not hardy enough to thrive here. We're seeing opossums all over, which I'd never seen here before the past decade.

So air conditioning may become more necessary here, too.

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Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

Hey, we turn ours off for a couple of weeks in January, OK?

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Boaty the plural's avatar

That's the most vocal block supporting the fossil fuel industry.

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Boaty the plural's avatar

Then you have a perfect opportunity to remind the south of their depende....

not a troll.

Damn.

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I got to run errands and took off this afternoon, yet husband's here and being weird (and is now doing the embarrassing thing where he "works out" while blasting Phish and dancing in our breezeway where God and everyone can see him.

I just want to eat my pad Thai, have some wine and listen to this podcast!

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BosGrl's avatar

Clever!

It's awful when you go through Dunks drive-thru and when you take a sip after you've already gotten back on the road, it's full of sugar, and there's no other Dunks for miles and you're late for work.

Wait, sorry, I just hijacked your post. I'm sending you a huge hug.

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Eileen's avatar

I've done the Dunks thing. Oh, GAWD!

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BosGrl's avatar

Also too the difference between a really fresh and yummy ice coffee and one that you know has been sitting around :(

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BosGrl's avatar

soooooo disappointing!

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