Read an article linked by this mommyblog a few days ago which said that it was likely irrelevant whether LLMs were the future or not, because the AI business model was inherently unprofitable and would probably crash and burn before long. That not a single AI company has made a single penny of profit FROM AI (as opposed to other related business lines), and that the entire multi-billion dollar data center infrastructure being built out for it will be pretty much useless if/when the bubble bursts.
LMAO at the bitch-eating-crackers thing. It literally describes how Sanders even came onto the national scene at all. But sure, it's the people who recognize this they se the bitch-eating-crackers crazies.
Maybe all those laid off workers could be hired as telephone receptionists and displace all those automated answering machine that consider your call important but never know where to direct your call.
I regularly call my two Senators (Jon Husted and Bernie Moreno) and leave helpful voicemail messages. I called my Representative once (Joyce Beatty) and got a human. I was all set in voicemail message mode, and the shock shut my brain down.
The "stealing" charge is more complex than it looks. If we are talking about plagiarism, of course that's stealing. But if we are talking about learning the general rules of composition in any media, and of argument and then using them to express ideas and arguments that others may have expressed non-identically before, that's just what most people are going to do. Being unoriginal is not considered plagiarism. Working off someone else's ideas is called "inspiration." Can AI do this now? I suspect not. Will it be able in the future? Why not?
Data centre use of resources is an environmental problem and should of course be severely restricted. Displacement of workers is a problem we've faced repeatedly before, and usually haven't solved well; I tend to favor a guaranteed annual income, but I know many people reflexively consider that outrageous -- often people who have a position in society where they don't have to worry about income.
Even if you shut down every data center in the US and banish all the techbros ("nothing of value was lost"), AI will continue to exist and to be developed further. This is out of your hands. You can't stop it. Dreaming that it be banned all over the world is fatuous. What do you plan to do about it?
The actual thinking ability of AI is almost negligible at the present time. It won't continue so. There is nothing between your ears except water and tissue, shaped by millions of years of evolution. It's incredibly complex. It isn't infinitely complex. It is a material structure and it will sooner or later, probably very much later, be copied. Will it be improved on? I expect that depends on what you mean by "improved."
No plagiarism isn't stealing. Because when you take someone's idea, they still have the idea. Unless you bonk them on the head cartoon-style to make them forget the idea. But even then it's assault, not theft. If I have apple pie and you steal my apple pie I go hungry. If I have an apple pie recipe and you steal my recipe, nobody is going hungry.
It's OK if you think it is morally equivalent, but that doesn't make it the same thing.
plagiarism is literally stealing someone else's work. It is not about ideas. It is taking their work and pretending it is your own. It is actual theft and has been encoded in the laws as theft
Did you not read what I wrote? If I stole your recipe you won't starve. Your food didn't go away. It's not missing. It's not gone. The parrot is not pining for the fjords.
And fuck the laws, I can't believe someone living in a dictatorship where the courts say the laws do not matter with the "when you're the president you can grab them by the pussy and they will let you" glorious leader thinks the argument "the laws say it's so" is a valid argument. Fuck the laws.
And again, you can easily defend the position that it is morally equivalent, but what you can't do is pretend that the physical reality is identical.
You can steal my car and I won't starve. It is still theft even if I won't starve. I am not sure why me starving is some kind of metric over whether or not theft is theft.
When you steal someone's intellectual work and pretend it is your own, it is theft
If I steal you car you won't have a car. That's what makes it theft. If I steal your idea to drive to work, you can still drive to work. That's what makes it not theft. The difference is the loss of property. The reason I used bread as the metric is because bread is a physical object. The starving is the obvious consequence of not having a certain type of physical object. The point is the object that goes away when it is stolen.
When you pretend someone else's idea is yours that's plagiarism, not theft.
As a person who started off as a nurse's aide and finished my career as a professional healthcare provider, I can tell you that no one wants a fucking robot getting them to the toilet or the shower or feeding them or talking to them about their family or basically doing anything. So there's that you mindless chodes who never had any friends and are ruining it for the rest of us who actually did.
No, I want a robot doing all of those but the last thing. I know when people say no offense they don't really mean it, but I do this time: no offense, but maybe your profession is causing you to project here.
A lot of towns in Pennsylvania’s coal region are still waiting for those new jobs to reach them after the mines shut down a generation ago. Expecting the magic of the invisible hand to create new jobs to replace the ones that are lost ignores the fact that the invisible hand tends to give poor rural communities the finger.
And if you want to know why so many people in those communities joined the maga cult, that’s one of the reasons (racism, misogyny, and homophobia are the other reasons).
I don’t know if Bernie’s idea would work, but it’s a start of a conversation we should be having about what kind of a world we want to live in and technology marches inevitably forward.
I'm still waiting for a follow-up from the guys here who mansplained to me that data centers weren't really going to be a problem once they were up and running
This sounds like a solution worth looking into. Bottom line, unless we do SOMETHING the AI shit is going to FUBAR our society once and for all. Income inequality will become stratospheric. It wouldn't be sustainable.
I think that's part of the draw for the tech bros. They are trying to break governments so they never have to pay "extractive and extortionate taxes" to a nation again.
They do realize that the level of social disruption that will inevitably occur if this goes on unabated will be great enough that it could disrupt the electrical supply, don't they?
Whatever happened to their idea of building a floating libertarian utopia for rich assholes somewhere in the middle of the ocean? Why can’t they all go there?
That's not good enough anymore. They want to break governments so they can be wherever they want to be and avoid the "extractive and extortionate" taxes.
I'm reading their "Bible" right now. The Sovereign Individual.
He can address the nation all he wants. We just don't have to tune in to listen to his ranting. Perhaps if the ratings were in the toilet, he would get the message that we don't give a f*ck about what he has to say about anything.
Read an article linked by this mommyblog a few days ago which said that it was likely irrelevant whether LLMs were the future or not, because the AI business model was inherently unprofitable and would probably crash and burn before long. That not a single AI company has made a single penny of profit FROM AI (as opposed to other related business lines), and that the entire multi-billion dollar data center infrastructure being built out for it will be pretty much useless if/when the bubble bursts.
🤞
Of course the CEOs are on board. They'll just do a little number jitsu and declare they have no profits at all.
End of problem
Is that image from Robot and Frank which is a good movie despite Susan Sarandon being in it... just like Rocky Horror.
Look at that A1, all but performing the impossible with its vast resources.
Its got people from all sides of the political spectrum advocating for the most Communistic proposal I think has ever been floated in this country.
Look, why is this not called the AI Stake Sauce Act?
They're probably worried about copyright infringement.
LMAO at the bitch-eating-crackers thing. It literally describes how Sanders even came onto the national scene at all. But sure, it's the people who recognize this they se the bitch-eating-crackers crazies.
I don't like the plan because it's dependent on a presidentially-appointed task force. What could go wrong? 🤔
Maybe all those laid off workers could be hired as telephone receptionists and displace all those automated answering machine that consider your call important but never know where to direct your call.
I regularly call my two Senators (Jon Husted and Bernie Moreno) and leave helpful voicemail messages. I called my Representative once (Joyce Beatty) and got a human. I was all set in voicemail message mode, and the shock shut my brain down.
The "stealing" charge is more complex than it looks. If we are talking about plagiarism, of course that's stealing. But if we are talking about learning the general rules of composition in any media, and of argument and then using them to express ideas and arguments that others may have expressed non-identically before, that's just what most people are going to do. Being unoriginal is not considered plagiarism. Working off someone else's ideas is called "inspiration." Can AI do this now? I suspect not. Will it be able in the future? Why not?
Data centre use of resources is an environmental problem and should of course be severely restricted. Displacement of workers is a problem we've faced repeatedly before, and usually haven't solved well; I tend to favor a guaranteed annual income, but I know many people reflexively consider that outrageous -- often people who have a position in society where they don't have to worry about income.
Even if you shut down every data center in the US and banish all the techbros ("nothing of value was lost"), AI will continue to exist and to be developed further. This is out of your hands. You can't stop it. Dreaming that it be banned all over the world is fatuous. What do you plan to do about it?
The actual thinking ability of AI is almost negligible at the present time. It won't continue so. There is nothing between your ears except water and tissue, shaped by millions of years of evolution. It's incredibly complex. It isn't infinitely complex. It is a material structure and it will sooner or later, probably very much later, be copied. Will it be improved on? I expect that depends on what you mean by "improved."
No plagiarism isn't stealing. Because when you take someone's idea, they still have the idea. Unless you bonk them on the head cartoon-style to make them forget the idea. But even then it's assault, not theft. If I have apple pie and you steal my apple pie I go hungry. If I have an apple pie recipe and you steal my recipe, nobody is going hungry.
It's OK if you think it is morally equivalent, but that doesn't make it the same thing.
plagiarism is literally stealing someone else's work. It is not about ideas. It is taking their work and pretending it is your own. It is actual theft and has been encoded in the laws as theft
Did you not read what I wrote? If I stole your recipe you won't starve. Your food didn't go away. It's not missing. It's not gone. The parrot is not pining for the fjords.
And fuck the laws, I can't believe someone living in a dictatorship where the courts say the laws do not matter with the "when you're the president you can grab them by the pussy and they will let you" glorious leader thinks the argument "the laws say it's so" is a valid argument. Fuck the laws.
And again, you can easily defend the position that it is morally equivalent, but what you can't do is pretend that the physical reality is identical.
You can steal my car and I won't starve. It is still theft even if I won't starve. I am not sure why me starving is some kind of metric over whether or not theft is theft.
When you steal someone's intellectual work and pretend it is your own, it is theft
If I steal you car you won't have a car. That's what makes it theft. If I steal your idea to drive to work, you can still drive to work. That's what makes it not theft. The difference is the loss of property. The reason I used bread as the metric is because bread is a physical object. The starving is the obvious consequence of not having a certain type of physical object. The point is the object that goes away when it is stolen.
When you pretend someone else's idea is yours that's plagiarism, not theft.
UBI and Healthcare goes a long way to help, but I suspect we will have problems we can barely imagine.
This is a story line in my compelling fictional story with a big component on what happens as Earth heads towards superintelligence.
God has come to Earth; with a podcast, an agenda … and a personality.
The Godcast: A compelling original work of ‘spiritual fiction’ that examines humanity as it faces its biggest challenges.
https://substack.com/@godcast/note/p-198070482?r=18ajrt&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
As a person who started off as a nurse's aide and finished my career as a professional healthcare provider, I can tell you that no one wants a fucking robot getting them to the toilet or the shower or feeding them or talking to them about their family or basically doing anything. So there's that you mindless chodes who never had any friends and are ruining it for the rest of us who actually did.
No, I want a robot doing all of those but the last thing. I know when people say no offense they don't really mean it, but I do this time: no offense, but maybe your profession is causing you to project here.
A lot of towns in Pennsylvania’s coal region are still waiting for those new jobs to reach them after the mines shut down a generation ago. Expecting the magic of the invisible hand to create new jobs to replace the ones that are lost ignores the fact that the invisible hand tends to give poor rural communities the finger.
And if you want to know why so many people in those communities joined the maga cult, that’s one of the reasons (racism, misogyny, and homophobia are the other reasons).
I don’t know if Bernie’s idea would work, but it’s a start of a conversation we should be having about what kind of a world we want to live in and technology marches inevitably forward.
Remember, they pilloried Hillary and the rest of the Democratic party for trying to give them new jobs
It's even worse here in West Virginia. People are convinced the jobs will be coming back any day now...
And TFG is going to bring them back .....in two weeks
I'm still waiting for a follow-up from the guys here who mansplained to me that data centers weren't really going to be a problem once they were up and running
Easy. The people who benefit from data centers live far enough away from them that they aren’t a problem for them.
This sounds like a solution worth looking into. Bottom line, unless we do SOMETHING the AI shit is going to FUBAR our society once and for all. Income inequality will become stratospheric. It wouldn't be sustainable.
I think that's part of the draw for the tech bros. They are trying to break governments so they never have to pay "extractive and extortionate taxes" to a nation again.
They do realize that the level of social disruption that will inevitably occur if this goes on unabated will be great enough that it could disrupt the electrical supply, don't they?
Without electricity, they have nothing.
They don't think. Period. They think whatever they do will be wildly successful.
Whatever happened to their idea of building a floating libertarian utopia for rich assholes somewhere in the middle of the ocean? Why can’t they all go there?
That's not good enough anymore. They want to break governments so they can be wherever they want to be and avoid the "extractive and extortionate" taxes.
I'm reading their "Bible" right now. The Sovereign Individual.
I remember when Presidents addressed the nation for serious matters that affected all of us.
Not for the delusional rantings of a deranged lunatic.
People voted for Trump partially because they're entertained by it. Obviously the biggest factor is still the white supremacy.
Imagine if they'd run a boring white supremacist.
Like JD Vance.
Five bucks says Boxwine announces an indictment against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on Friday.
He can address the nation all he wants. We just don't have to tune in to listen to his ranting. Perhaps if the ratings were in the toilet, he would get the message that we don't give a f*ck about what he has to say about anything.
ALERT: More trouble for Todd Blanche today. Attorneys for @katiephang.bsky.social
ask Judge Emmet Sullivan to issue a $1000/day fine against Blanche until Blanche adheres to court order to release more Epstein files
(Blanche refused to do so by July 2 deadline)
https://bsky.app/profile/macfarlanenews.bsky.social/post/3mqkiuiz3sc2u
Put the screws to him even tighter, Your Honor.
"Throw the book at him!"
"Forget the book! Throw the chair!"
Seriously. Hold him in contempt and lock him up for a few months.