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pstokk's avatar

Yes exactly. But they would attempt something due to pressure from constituents who saw blue state solutions working right next door.

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

Funny how “freedom” always seems to vanish the second your premiums come due. People aren’t suddenly becoming socialists. They’re just tired of watching their paycheck get mugged by an insurance company that still has the nerve to deny coverage.

Once folks realize private insurers are basically middlemen who charge rent on human pain, Medicare for All stops sounding radical. It starts sounding like common sense.

Blessed be the ones who see through the scam. The rest can keep worshipping “choice” while their deductible eats them alive.

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Ill-Advised's avatar

It's all part of the MAHA plan. You WILL adopt a healthy lifestyle using all the supplements you can choke down. You will avoid vaccines, alcohol, red meat, fatty diets, drugs, "too much" sugar, and you will exercise every other day, and if you get sick anyway, you clearly weren't participating in the MAHA plan and deserve your outcomes.

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kmblue187's avatar

Mmmmmm, Medicare for All! I recently had to have emergency surgery and was in the hospital for 2 nights (only 2 nights, thank god.). When I got the hospital bill, I almost passed out, it said the REAL cost was over 100,000! Thanks to insurance it was a lot less, but still!

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Beth19's avatar

My rates are about to SKYROCKET.

And if this gets us a step closer to Medicare for ALL, bring it on. I can skip a vacay for a truly good cause.

And fuck conservatives. No reason, just fuck them (actually, I won't fuck them, but someone else should)

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Tom's avatar

I've said it before and I'll say it again. We CAN afford Medicare for All.

-Health insurance premiums will change to a tax to cover it. That way the cost will be solely based on wages earned.

-Employers should have NO problem with it as their portion of the premium will go away or at least diminish. There's an added plus in that the employer will no longer have to shop around for the cheapest health insurance.

-Coverage will no longer be tied to an employer. Switching jobs or in between jobs, you're still covered.

-The suction of corporate profits will cease. More money will go toward ACTUAL health care and not insurance exec's private yachts.

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Lizard's avatar

I really cannot overemphasize how horrible it is to deal with insurance companies as a doctor. We have to do these phone calls called "peer-to-peers," which is basically when you have to argue with a "doctor" who works for the company why your patient should get approval for that level of care. I did one last week and here's how it went:

"Your patient doesn't qualify for long-term care."

"Yes, they do. They meet these point-for-point criteria, these expert consulting teams who have worked with them in the hospital say they need this level of care, and I've been caring for them for weeks and I know they need this level of care."

"Your patient doesn't qualify for long-term care."

It's their job to deny people. It's like talking to a wall.

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Robyn. Medicare for All for decades; I've always wanted socialized medicine in my country. I thought we should join the rest of the "civilized" world. Sigh.

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Lexicon Devil's avatar

Makes MOAR money so MOAR efficiency thats how freedom works

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tegrat's avatar

What's truly alarming about how much the private insurers profit off of us is that of the 15-20% they get to keep (this was written into the ACA), a full 5% is pure profit. In other words, they are making 25% to 33% profit on the administrative service they provide, the other 80% of the money they take in is pure pass-through to actual healthcare. Outrageous.

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Zap's avatar

Will the insurance companies that own the government let us have MFA?

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theblackdog's avatar

Even without the subsidies expiring the health care options for federal and postal employees got ridiculous this year.

NALC is exiting the program so all folks on that were going to be pushed to GEHA High unless they make a change. I’m on GEHA high and they were raising the self plus one from $307 to $432 a paycheck and all of their copays were going up by at least 10% and the out of pocket deductible went up too.

BCBS Standard wasn’t much better on premium price ($410) but their copays were lower than GEHA. Plus GEHA and Compass Rose use UHC for their network so if your provider is fighting with them (John’s Hopkins) then you’re screwed.

I have never wanted single payer so much more than after going through figuring out what we were going to use for next year. I switched providers so now I get to go through pre-authorization so I can keep taking certain meds.

What a mess it will be.

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Tom's avatar

My neighbor's daughter just started a government job. She was excited to get the "Cadillac" health care plan for less than she could at a non-government job. However, when she asked for a blood test for what should be a routine preventative care screening, she was denied. The insurance company won't approve it if she doesn't have any symptoms.

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theblackdog's avatar

The hell? That should not have happened

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

Given the overwhelming public support for extending the subsidies, you’d think political survival instincts would motivate enough republicans in Congress to pass the extension. It’s not like they have any other ideas or even the intention to come up with any.

Why are they so intransigent? Is it because they’re stuck in 2014 and are still thinking, “black man did it, so bad?”

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"M"'s avatar

"Brown: Autocrats don’t fear the disease or the babies dying from whooping cough — they fear the evidence of it, because evidence exposes their failures, demands accountability, and empowers the public."

That's Dr. Brown

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3m7lh66k3ak2i

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Zap's avatar

That’s one reason the blotchy abomination is restricting government reports.

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Satanic Pancake's avatar

As someone with two cracked teeth that the dentist keeps claiming are going to break in half any day now, I think we should also throw dental and vision care into the medicare for all thing.

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2Cats2Furious's avatar

I’ve taken to referring to my teeth as “luxury bones.”

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Zap's avatar

I’ve spent over $4,000 on a back molar and the implant hasn’t even started yet.

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2Cats2Furious's avatar

But but but… do you really *need* a back molar?

Sorry, I’m just bitter about the cost of healthcare in general and dental care in particular.

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Sallyfemina's avatar

I've had two molars extracted instead of rebuilt just for that reason. I could just barely afford that, but real dental work, noooope.

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2Cats2Furious's avatar

Same same.

Fucking luxury bones.

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"M"'s avatar

As someone who just dropped mid-four figures on periodontal laser surgery (apparently arising from excess stress) --

emphatically yes

And I don't think we would be the first two to mention it

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coco lurks from home's avatar

And hearing.

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Satanic Pancake's avatar

WHAT? WHO’S VEERING?

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ElderlyLoudCatWomyn's avatar

By not extending the financial support for ACA, the GOP is admitting that they have no plan. Trump's offer of a one-time check of $2000 is absurd.

Medicare for all will be cheaper than the current set up because it would add children and adults under about 45. This younger population uses far less medical care (on average) than people over 65. At the end of their lives (65+), on average, people spend 90% of their life-time medical expenditures. Right now, even covering predominantly people over 65, Medicare is extremely inexpensive to run - if I recall correctly it costs less than 2% of billing to run the program. This should impress the hell out of everyone because it's cheap despite covering the highest risk portion of the population - over 65. By adding in millions of lower risk folks (children, adults under about 40 or 45) the average cost of Medicare will fall. Medicare might be able to lower premiums and copays and offer more services if it were a universal plan.

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Zap's avatar

Right. $2,000 will not fix our very broken healthcare “system”

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

Pedo’s rationale for his plan doesn’t even make sense. He wants to give money to people so they can buy health insurance instead of giving money to health insurance companies.

Hello? Where does he think people are going to buy health insurance from? Elves working in trees?

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"M"'s avatar

They never had a plan

These are people the top of whose heads fly off when it finally breaks through to them that "Obamacare" and the ACA are the same thing

Clay Cane talked in detail about MVP Kamala Harris' plans - she had an 80-page white paper for every policy position

and let's not forget that Republicans overwhelmingly supported MVP Kamala Harris' policies -- in a BLIND POLL

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/republicans-favoured-kamala-harriss-policies-in-blind-polling-385496/

It's about two things -- the greed and the racism

But I've already said that at least three times today -- and Jim Acosta is interviewing Jared Holt, who's been covering White nationalist domestic terrorist Nick Fuentes -- so, I mean,

here we are

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