Again with the tired, ridiculous talking points. What makes you need to fulminate against health care for American citizens? Against health care even for yourself? You're literally talking anti-American nonsense, and fervently, too, for some reason. It's just nuts.
You literally cannot have a strong, productive country without healthy citizens. It will cost less, and be infinitely better for the country if every American has health care. Every other developed country has figured this out. We are the laughingstock, with an increasingly lower lifespan for our citizens. It's absurd. And here you are, for some reason, angrily defending that.
Watch the John Oliver segment. He also talks about how the Brits adore the NHS and celebrate it.
My wife is an RN and I was asked all the same questions I was asked at a US Clinic the last time I went in for an ear infection. From my understanding they only have two low potency antibiotics over the counter and anything else is prescription.I guess my point is, there seems to be much more fucking around for some simple remedies in the US.
Defensive medicine doesn't mean the same thing as preventive medicine. Preventive care is a good thing and we should all have it! Treat small problems before they become big ones! Defensive medicine is ordering every test under the sun so you don't "miss something" in fear of getting sued for malpractice because you didn't think zebras when you heard hoofbeats.
Stripping "individual" coverage from those who valued it, and forcing them into a system where, if they couldn't qualify for subsidies, couldn't afford the jacked up premiums, wasn't much of a solution.
Reality will eventually pound into your noggin the fact that people aren't going to exchange their group health coverage for your "aspirational" visions of health care utopia. Accusing them of selfish stupidity won't get the job done.
Hey, I'm not saying it's a good idea, only that it happens. Fear of litigation is a motivator. Profit may also be a motivator. Either way, I don't see why we're having this debate when all I was responding to was the conflation of preventive medicine with defensive medicine, whether or not such a practice exists to your specifications.
Republicans opposed destroying the existing market for "individual" insurance policies. But I have no problem with expanding Medicaid "managed care," providing I'm not required, through tax dollars or increased premiums, to fund the medical expenses of those who haven't exhausted their own resources.
Sure, for the ill, or those who qualify for subsidies, it's a sweet deal -- at the expense of the healthy. In the run-up to Obamacare, I visited a number of sites, soliciting quotes for imaginary, healthy couples unqualified for subsidies. The figures were extortionate.
I'm not putting my healthcare in the hands of a government that could ever be governed by Republicans.
I don't imagine the executive boards of those giant private insurance companies are rife with altruistic Democrats, y'know?
Again with the tired, ridiculous talking points. What makes you need to fulminate against health care for American citizens? Against health care even for yourself? You're literally talking anti-American nonsense, and fervently, too, for some reason. It's just nuts.
You literally cannot have a strong, productive country without healthy citizens. It will cost less, and be infinitely better for the country if every American has health care. Every other developed country has figured this out. We are the laughingstock, with an increasingly lower lifespan for our citizens. It's absurd. And here you are, for some reason, angrily defending that.
Watch the John Oliver segment. He also talks about how the Brits adore the NHS and celebrate it.
My wife is an RN and I was asked all the same questions I was asked at a US Clinic the last time I went in for an ear infection. From my understanding they only have two low potency antibiotics over the counter and anything else is prescription.I guess my point is, there seems to be much more fucking around for some simple remedies in the US.
Defensive medicine doesn't mean the same thing as preventive medicine. Preventive care is a good thing and we should all have it! Treat small problems before they become big ones! Defensive medicine is ordering every test under the sun so you don't "miss something" in fear of getting sued for malpractice because you didn't think zebras when you heard hoofbeats.
Stripping "individual" coverage from those who valued it, and forcing them into a system where, if they couldn't qualify for subsidies, couldn't afford the jacked up premiums, wasn't much of a solution.
Tell that to the National Institutes of Health:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...
Reality will eventually pound into your noggin the fact that people aren't going to exchange their group health coverage for your "aspirational" visions of health care utopia. Accusing them of selfish stupidity won't get the job done.
Of course, not after republicans did everything they could to sabotage it.
What’s your point?
Hey, I'm not saying it's a good idea, only that it happens. Fear of litigation is a motivator. Profit may also be a motivator. Either way, I don't see why we're having this debate when all I was responding to was the conflation of preventive medicine with defensive medicine, whether or not such a practice exists to your specifications.
Republicans opposed destroying the existing market for "individual" insurance policies. But I have no problem with expanding Medicaid "managed care," providing I'm not required, through tax dollars or increased premiums, to fund the medical expenses of those who haven't exhausted their own resources.
Except the existing market wasn’t destroyed, it was made more accessible.
Btw, you are talking to someone who purchased their coverage through the exchanges, so I actually have experience with it.
Sure, for the ill, or those who qualify for subsidies, it's a sweet deal -- at the expense of the healthy. In the run-up to Obamacare, I visited a number of sites, soliciting quotes for imaginary, healthy couples unqualified for subsidies. The figures were extortionate.
One party wants to expand health care so that there is the most care for the most people: the Democrats. We argue about how to do it.
One party wants to limit health care so it that profit is maximized: the Republicans.
I am not letting arguments in the first result in support for the second.
So karma? As he has done more to fuck up and divide our country than most.
Check out the "With all due respect to John Oliver" thread on Democratic Underground, Democratic Primaries. A real hatchet fight.
I’m healthy and it’ works fo me.