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Jacqueline Klein's avatar

Just this week on 9/11, two neo Nazis groups showed up to fight each other. But not before stoking lies about Mamdani and why he should be ashamed of himself for showing up at the memorial. When will they learn they are being totally manipulated by right wing “media”? I guess these are the very people who trump was talking about when he announced that people don’t know there’s a “B” in dumb.

Katherine's avatar

British person here. I think it's not coincidental that this mob got the ongoing Farage/Reform donations scandal (Farage is being investigated by the police) off the front pages. I also wouldn't characterise the UK government as racist. It's got some less than ideal policies and its response to this mob was weak sauce but it's nowhere near as bad as the swivel eyes in Restore or Reform. Calling it racist just panders to the 'they're all the same' doom mongers. And as a side note, no one in Britain - even posh people - says 'what what.'

Sleepmonger's avatar

Am I the only one who has never heard of OCCRP? I think when using initialisms less well-known than FBI or ICE, it would be nice to at least say what the letters stand for, and even better if hyperlinked to a site that describes who they are. Usually the minimum on the first use is Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP), after which just the initials are fine in the same article. If only used one time in an article, the initialism isn't even needed. They're based in Amsterdam, if anyone else was curious.

Regret's avatar

Agreed, initialisms and abbreviations that are not extremely common need to be written out at least once. I'd prefer it if people err on the side of writing out Nineteen Eighty-Four as is the actual title of the book instead of trying to shorten everything. You're not working under a strict character limit, this is not a tweet.

KI's avatar

You are my new favorite journalist. I love your pithy and intelligent commentary on current events.

Nick Pigott's avatar

The overall argument here is fine but there’s a lot wrong with this article. You have obviously never visited the UK. Or even read much about it to be honest.

Sleepmonger's avatar

Could you enlighten us as to what's wrong then?

Our_Man_In_Redneckistan's avatar

So few people know how to see and understand that they’re being manipulated.

Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Brooke. Monsters, maniacs, miscreants, mooks, mouth breathers make the mob. Migrants are human beings, and they deserve to be treated as such.

Antifa Commander's avatar

the Tanton network

I say we cut them open and crawl inside, no matter how bad they smell.

Saviour of Bread's avatar

England’s government? The one that just called out Israel? Get back to me when the US does that.

And I hate England’s government.

Edit: of course if I was being pedantic, England doesn’t have a government.

PaulDietzel's avatar

I'll cede any knowledge of titushki's and all that shit but how would anyone put a ship into "port" when you're faced with sheer cliffs, white or otherwise?

SAMushrush's avatar

There are areas not all cliffy. Like the city of Dover, amongst others

Antifa Commander's avatar

Cliffs at the headlands, ports in the bays.

Pexas Teat's avatar

JFC the geographic illiteracy you see even here is shocking at times.

PaulDietzel's avatar

First things first - IIRC, Strawberry Yoo-Hoo did give off, especially in appearance, somewhat of a Pepto Bismol vibe which could have contributed to your carsick tendency.

But. as for one's "geographic literacy" in the article headed "Merrie Olde Mobbe Of Racists Gather At England Port . . . " the very photo used shows the "White Cliffs", so forgive my confusion and, ahem, "illiteracy."

SAMushrush's avatar

I think the problem is, geography is not taught as a subject in elementary school and people don't really have a three dimensional perspective. A history teacher told us geography is history, art, culture.

Hollysdower's avatar

What can we even do to combat this? Europe has serious laws that social media has to follow, and this is still happening there. What hope does America, the country that won't regulate anything, have?

Regret's avatar

Ehm, a lot of your country has banned abortions. What do you mean "won't regulate anything"?

Hollysdower's avatar

This comment was about far right-wing networks organizing harassing actions on social media. It has nothing to do with abortion. My country won't regulate social media in any way, unlike the EU, that has limits on what they can do.

Regret's avatar

Just a friendly tip: If you didn't mean "anything" maybe you shouldn't use the word "anything".

But back to the subject: Most social media regulation is a massive step towards a police state. The best thing to do is to break up all monopolies and monopsonies, that would do so much more for online safety than anything else.

If your goal is only to attack far-right networks organizing harassing actions, then regulating social media isn't going to be enough since network behaviour is resistant to suppression (this is why the internet never goes down globally: It's a network and networks are extremely disruption resistant). We need to fight those who fund these networks.

Hollysdower's avatar

Here's my tip to you: read the stories before you read the comments, then you won't embarrass yourself.

I don't listen to fools, so I have blocked you. I will never again see anything you say.

Saviour of Bread's avatar

You just call other country’s governments racist and everything will be fine.

Wookiee Monster's avatar

Dig deep enough and you will also find a Russian connection to all of these groups. Putin sees these far right protesters as essential to his goal of destabilizing the west and putting an end to democracy.

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

"[I]t is paywalled and I have a real bias against giving money to a place that used to employ and underpay me" is certainly a phrase that resonates with many people these days!

Cheese's avatar

Tommy Robinson moans about the Muzzlims but spends half the year in Dubai.

As he has a coke problem to rival Don Jr he’s getting funding for his lifestyle somewhere.

goCatgo's avatar

The last story I watched where a guy wore a mask, he killed his wife's lover fearing there may be be surveillance cameras in places. He managed to avoid being seen, but the police detective believed he did it, by his reaction when he saw him pick up his blood covered wife at the hospital.

Like he already knew everything. But the cop couldn't prove it, but he later told the guy he knew he did it.

Rags's avatar

Basket of deplorables