While Pence, as VP, was technically the President of the Senate he was not a legislator. The Speech and Debate clause, as written in Article I, applies to legislators in either house of the Congress. Pence is not a legislator.
This tactic will fail. It is, at best, a stall. Pence is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. Why is he trying to protect the man whose followers wanted to kill him?
As always, TFG is his own undoing. We would be in a very different place, indeed, had he not been such a profoundly stupid, functionally ignorant, mentally deranged, incompetent, self-sabotaging narcissist.
I agree. He's an executive, moving from one branch to another branch-- to vote, but to vote as a special executive voter. Take it from me (world's foremost authority) But, I think I'm right. But if a distinguished lawyer thinks it's brilliant, it is.
OK but why can't Jack Smith say "OK, we won't ask you any questions about what you did while in speech or debate on the floor of the Senate, and also live on television while millions watched. You can keep quiet about that and hope no-one finds out about it. Now let's please have your testimony about everything else."
While Pence, as VP, was technically the President of the Senate he was not a legislator. The Speech and Debate clause, as written in Article I, applies to legislators in either house of the Congress. Pence is not a legislator.
This tactic will fail. It is, at best, a stall. Pence is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. Why is he trying to protect the man whose followers wanted to kill him?
As always, TFG is his own undoing. We would be in a very different place, indeed, had he not been such a profoundly stupid, functionally ignorant, mentally deranged, incompetent, self-sabotaging narcissist.
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He might also have more takers if he wasn't notorious for disregarding legal advice and getting his lawyers into legal hot water.
I agree. He's an executive, moving from one branch to another branch-- to vote, but to vote as a special executive voter. Take it from me (world's foremost authority) But, I think I'm right. But if a distinguished lawyer thinks it's brilliant, it is.
OK but why can't Jack Smith say "OK, we won't ask you any questions about what you did while in speech or debate on the floor of the Senate, and also live on television while millions watched. You can keep quiet about that and hope no-one finds out about it. Now let's please have your testimony about everything else."
Worst governor ever. Manafort introduced him to Trump.
You have to be on the floor of the house or Senate for speech & debate to apply.
Why can't he just participate. And take the 5th. As criminals do.
Mike Pence Has Some Good F-ing Lawyers
See?
This is why I say "the law" isn't based on objective facts, but rather subjective opinions of lawyers, prosecutors, judges and the jury.
If it was based on pure facts then you wouldn't need "good lawyers", any old attorney could argue your case on factual merit. 😆
There's serious reasons for Pense to hide his ass kissing ass from the courts, it's Pussy Assed Bitch's ass Pense's kissing.
That would speed up the process. The GOP wants this to take too long.
I thought that, last night, Lawrence O'Donnell and Lawrence Tribe blew Pence's "defense" to smithereens.
That's true--arguably he waived this privilege when he revealed that information in his book.
Do we want to know?or do we want to remain in the dark?
How can Pence hold out on US ! Doesn't he want to support US ?
... it's a good theory, to be sure.