My ladies never took me to the Man Park! They'd just take me out for food and lots of drinks then fuck me senseless when we got home. NO FAIR!!!111!1!11!!!!
And then Trump said "you're not my friend anymore! I hate you! You'll be sorry!" and sent his drooling hordes to exact his revenge and hang Mike Pence by the neck until dead, the end!
"And, in the end, four years later we got stuck with That Asshole anyway. But at least we got a four-year break? It’s a low bar when somebody gets an award just for doing their job that they promised to do,"
I hate to say this, but we need to be fair to Mike Pence. He is a political enemy, and I would never vote for him or anyone close to him, but with an ongoing coup and the chaos around it, him standing his ground so that the democratic process could go forward is worth celebrating. Like any of the legends and myths that any country is built on, just focus on his one moment where he put country before a man, and let that lesson ring out. The rest can be thrown on the rubbish of the Christian and Far right and left to molder.
TBF, it’s not necessarily that they have no memory of Jan 6th or liked the violence. It could very well be, and in many cases absolutely is, that they hated the violence but as long as THEY can benefit from it, by using it to rile up their rube voters, they’re good with it. Which in many ways is worse; certainly amorality is less honest than pure stupidity or pure evil.
Profiles in courage, my ass. The only thing his actions on Jan. 6th prove us that Pence is exactly as stupid and unimaginative as he appears to be. If he had had any inkling that his opposition would so thoroughly destroy his political future, Pence would have been leading the coup himself. Don't confuse his density with courage.
I’ll give him toughness, in that moment. But his calculation was that this would break Trump (and for a while, that seemed correct) and he was proving his Presidential mettle. But he wouldn't have done it if he had been as smart and far-seeing as, say, Ron Johnson. The dumbest Senator on the Hill.
Pence is still the same Christian Nationalist freak he's always been and he's not getting even a crumb of a cookie for doing the absolute bare minimum.
Adam Server’s insight that “the cruelty is the point” has been widely embraced as a core understanding of the MAGA movement. As I was reading the section on violence in James Cone’s phenomenal book “God of the Oppressed” this morning, it occurred to me that the cruelty is a byproduct of the “great again” yearning: the elevation of violence back to its paramount place in American history in order to impose white supremacy. Now it’s be MAGA or be oppressed, and violence is an acceptable if not preferred tool to accomplish it. So of course Jan 6 violence is now excused by right-wing politicians; it wasn’t until afterwards that they understood where their political fortunes were heading.
On several occasions I’ve heard the criticism that Black people aren’t participating in anti-Trump protests. I’m guessing it might be because they’ve seen this movie before.
Ok, hear me out. What if the Idiot had become president in 2020? His evil cadre wouldn’t have had 4 years to get their Project 2025 shit together and to find all the best morons and asslickers that they put into all the jobs. They’d have been stuck dealing with the rolling crises and looking worse and worse. Those 4 years would have sucked but maybe the wouldn’t have had the special surreal clown car fascism we’re in now. Sure, probably a lot more death from Covid. Maybe a world war or two. Ukraine wouldn’t have had a chance. But tariffs? DOGE? Dismantling so much of the government?
Plus, this year we might have Harris or Ocasio in the White House.
I agree with what you are saying, but I am pretty happy it was Pence and not Mr. Eyeliner. I guess we have to take what we can (and leave the rest?). It's exhausting!
JD Vance has a breaking point just like Pence. We just don’t know where it is. At some point, a person gets enough shit piled on them that they say fuck it, and do the unexpected.
Extra points for "consider the source" from a RFK Jr. stan
Ta, Marcie. That fly had more courage than the spineless creature on which it sat.
My ladies never took me to the Man Park! They'd just take me out for food and lots of drinks then fuck me senseless when we got home. NO FAIR!!!111!1!11!!!!
And then Trump said "you're not my friend anymore! I hate you! You'll be sorry!" and sent his drooling hordes to exact his revenge and hang Mike Pence by the neck until dead, the end!
"But at least we got a four-year break?"
I've spent a lot of time wondering if this was, in the long run, a good or bad thing.
I was a just thinking, "Well, at least if he'd overturned the Constitution to remain in office another term in office, it'd all be over now."
But then I remembered that he would now be serving his third term or would have signed an executive order making himself dictator for life.
So at least we got four years of normalcy out of the deal.
"And, in the end, four years later we got stuck with That Asshole anyway. But at least we got a four-year break? It’s a low bar when somebody gets an award just for doing their job that they promised to do,"
I hate to say this, but we need to be fair to Mike Pence. He is a political enemy, and I would never vote for him or anyone close to him, but with an ongoing coup and the chaos around it, him standing his ground so that the democratic process could go forward is worth celebrating. Like any of the legends and myths that any country is built on, just focus on his one moment where he put country before a man, and let that lesson ring out. The rest can be thrown on the rubbish of the Christian and Far right and left to molder.
TBF, it’s not necessarily that they have no memory of Jan 6th or liked the violence. It could very well be, and in many cases absolutely is, that they hated the violence but as long as THEY can benefit from it, by using it to rile up their rube voters, they’re good with it. Which in many ways is worse; certainly amorality is less honest than pure stupidity or pure evil.
Profiles in courage, my ass. The only thing his actions on Jan. 6th prove us that Pence is exactly as stupid and unimaginative as he appears to be. If he had had any inkling that his opposition would so thoroughly destroy his political future, Pence would have been leading the coup himself. Don't confuse his density with courage.
I'm willing to give him this one. Not for doing his job. For not getting in that car when the Secret Service was urging him.
I’ll give him toughness, in that moment. But his calculation was that this would break Trump (and for a while, that seemed correct) and he was proving his Presidential mettle. But he wouldn't have done it if he had been as smart and far-seeing as, say, Ron Johnson. The dumbest Senator on the Hill.
Are we sure this isn't just some epic trolling?
Pence is still the same Christian Nationalist freak he's always been and he's not getting even a crumb of a cookie for doing the absolute bare minimum.
Adam Server’s insight that “the cruelty is the point” has been widely embraced as a core understanding of the MAGA movement. As I was reading the section on violence in James Cone’s phenomenal book “God of the Oppressed” this morning, it occurred to me that the cruelty is a byproduct of the “great again” yearning: the elevation of violence back to its paramount place in American history in order to impose white supremacy. Now it’s be MAGA or be oppressed, and violence is an acceptable if not preferred tool to accomplish it. So of course Jan 6 violence is now excused by right-wing politicians; it wasn’t until afterwards that they understood where their political fortunes were heading.
On several occasions I’ve heard the criticism that Black people aren’t participating in anti-Trump protests. I’m guessing it might be because they’ve seen this movie before.
If you ask me, Liz Cheney deserved it a hundred times more than Mike Pence. At least she tried to Lock Him Up.
Ok, hear me out. What if the Idiot had become president in 2020? His evil cadre wouldn’t have had 4 years to get their Project 2025 shit together and to find all the best morons and asslickers that they put into all the jobs. They’d have been stuck dealing with the rolling crises and looking worse and worse. Those 4 years would have sucked but maybe the wouldn’t have had the special surreal clown car fascism we’re in now. Sure, probably a lot more death from Covid. Maybe a world war or two. Ukraine wouldn’t have had a chance. But tariffs? DOGE? Dismantling so much of the government?
Plus, this year we might have Harris or Ocasio in the White House.
Or, y’know, totalitarian fascism.
I agree with what you are saying, but I am pretty happy it was Pence and not Mr. Eyeliner. I guess we have to take what we can (and leave the rest?). It's exhausting!
boy give him a star for breathing, we are lost. Resist this nonsense, Our Republic is at stake and this is the best we can do?
JD Vance has a breaking point just like Pence. We just don’t know where it is. At some point, a person gets enough shit piled on them that they say fuck it, and do the unexpected.