Ta, Robyn. No. Just no. Kids do not need assault rifles. Of course, neither do adults. Those are weapons of war that have no business in civilian hands.
they need to start charging all parents with manslaughter if their kid kills someone else, and murder if the kid kills themselves. if enough of them are jailed, then the rest will act in their own self interest eventually, surely?
This is all well and good, but isn't the real question that given that children are now so well armed, don't you want to be in the position to return fire in force???
I propose an absolute, draconian law on gun safety. If you or your child accidentally discharges a gun and someone gets hurt you will be forbidden from ever owning a gun again. After all, if you can't handle a gun safely you don;t deserve to own a gun. That's part of the "well-regulated militia" part of the 2nd A.
Hell, back in the 90s a child of a family that attended our church accidentally killed himself. He was in his grandmother's car and he discovered the loaded gun she kept under the passenger seat. Whether that was legal or not is irrelevant. The child still died.
What a time to read this. This time of year is hard for my family, because it was in March when my brother took his own life. I'll never forget the sound of my mother crying when she was cleaning his room and found the box of bullets.
"You can have my gun when you pry it from the cold, dead, teeny-weeny fingers of the kid who found it under my bed where I forgot I hid it so well after I forgot that I hadn't unloaded it after the TSA returned it to me by court order after I forgot I packed it for my trip to the NRA firearm safety meeting and rally for responsible gun ownership!!" Or something. 🤨
I had a friend many years ago who as a young teen accidentally shot and killed his friend. His parents sent him to a military school in response and in general sounded like they added extra layers of fucked-upness to his already seriously fucked up situation. He was never very far away as an adult from what he had done and the trauma he lived with daily was a sad commentary on what could have been had he been treated properly with therapy and compassion. Or better —given the guidance of possible to have not shot his buddy in the first place! I don’t remember the exact circumstances of how he acquired the gun in the first place but I think his parents had given it to him originally. Needless to say he was a pretty ardent supporter of gun control.
and then, when the supremes went full semantic argument over the placement of a comma, it was pretty much apparent where this was headed.
it has got to be fun to be able to, with a straight face, hide behind the claim that you know *precisely* what dead people were thinking and then go ahead and call yourself an originalist or fundamentalist or some such.
see also Crip Dyke's article from earlier about epistemology.
Remember that "Joe the Plumber" stated, "Your dead kids don't trump my rights." And remember that this is the attitude of all the gunhumping ammosexuals, and they include "my dead kids," in that as well as yours.
Ta, Robyn. No. Just no. Kids do not need assault rifles. Of course, neither do adults. Those are weapons of war that have no business in civilian hands.
Mine was don't eat watermelon seeds or you will grow one in your stomach. Is that what you want??
There are two things in this country you can do without any training, licensing, or supervision: becoming a parent and owning a gun.
One of those things has to change.
they need to start charging all parents with manslaughter if their kid kills someone else, and murder if the kid kills themselves. if enough of them are jailed, then the rest will act in their own self interest eventually, surely?
From the party of "Never back down, always double down?"
Shirley, you jest.
i do jest, but don't call me Shirley
Handling these things after the fact à la the Crumbleys may not be a long-term solution, but in the short term SEND THOSE FUCKERS TO PRISON.
"but that would never happen to me" is another side effect of 'low empathy"
The downside to 'owning the libs' I suppose
This is all well and good, but isn't the real question that given that children are now so well armed, don't you want to be in the position to return fire in force???
you jest, but the NRA is working on that ad campaign as we speak
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/51112/gathering-the-bones-together
6. the journey
Each night, I knelt on a marble slab
and scrubbed at the blood.
I scrubbed for years and still it was there.
But tonight the bones in my feet
begin to burn. I stand up
and start walking, and the slab
appears under my feet with each step,
a white road only as long as your body.
I propose an absolute, draconian law on gun safety. If you or your child accidentally discharges a gun and someone gets hurt you will be forbidden from ever owning a gun again. After all, if you can't handle a gun safely you don;t deserve to own a gun. That's part of the "well-regulated militia" part of the 2nd A.
We had one in 1994
The Republicans wouldn't sign on to pass it unless it had an expiration date.
"That's part of the "well-regulated militia" part of the 2nd A."
Here's some more stuff about 2A that should offer some context to why today's Confederates seem to rabidly want it so much
The 2nd Amendment Was Ratified to Preserve Slavery
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/second-amendment-ratified-preserve-slavery/
Hell, back in the 90s a child of a family that attended our church accidentally killed himself. He was in his grandmother's car and he discovered the loaded gun she kept under the passenger seat. Whether that was legal or not is irrelevant. The child still died.
What a time to read this. This time of year is hard for my family, because it was in March when my brother took his own life. I'll never forget the sound of my mother crying when she was cleaning his room and found the box of bullets.
No words...just Hugs, Joe......
:(
SO sorry, Joe.
"You can have my gun when you pry it from the cold, dead, teeny-weeny fingers of the kid who found it under my bed where I forgot I hid it so well after I forgot that I hadn't unloaded it after the TSA returned it to me by court order after I forgot I packed it for my trip to the NRA firearm safety meeting and rally for responsible gun ownership!!" Or something. 🤨
Now why would you take a gun to the NRA firearm safety meeting and rally for responsible gun ownership?
The NRA doesn't allow any guns in their HQ.
Oops! I forgot who gets safety and who don't!
I had a friend many years ago who as a young teen accidentally shot and killed his friend. His parents sent him to a military school in response and in general sounded like they added extra layers of fucked-upness to his already seriously fucked up situation. He was never very far away as an adult from what he had done and the trauma he lived with daily was a sad commentary on what could have been had he been treated properly with therapy and compassion. Or better —given the guidance of possible to have not shot his buddy in the first place! I don’t remember the exact circumstances of how he acquired the gun in the first place but I think his parents had given it to him originally. Needless to say he was a pretty ardent supporter of gun control.
Troubled teen
Expose TT to military discipline and weapons
???????
PROFIT!
we need gun control with teeth. everything else is bullshit.
We had it until 1994
The Republicans wouldn't sign on to pass it unless it had an expiration date.
"That's part of the "well-regulated militia" part of the 2nd A."
Here's some more stuff about 2A that should offer some context to why today's Confederates seem to rabidly want it so much
The 2nd Amendment Was Ratified to Preserve Slavery
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/second-amendment-ratified-preserve-slavery/
and then, when the supremes went full semantic argument over the placement of a comma, it was pretty much apparent where this was headed.
it has got to be fun to be able to, with a straight face, hide behind the claim that you know *precisely* what dead people were thinking and then go ahead and call yourself an originalist or fundamentalist or some such.
see also Crip Dyke's article from earlier about epistemology.
Bite the bullet, you say?
bite the bullets and the guns and all the things!
Remember that "Joe the Plumber" stated, "Your dead kids don't trump my rights." And remember that this is the attitude of all the gunhumping ammosexuals, and they include "my dead kids," in that as well as yours.