327 Comments
User's avatar
Clark Nova's avatar

In 1864, Arizona illegally split off from New Mexico, which was a real territory that went from Texas to California at the time. One could probably fight this in SCOTUS on the basis that they were an illegal territory when it was passed.

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

"Those damned Yankees won't go to war to keep us from seceding. They don't have the stomach for a fight. The war will be over in two weeks."

Expand full comment
skinnercitycyclist's avatar

Nothing succeeds like secesh.

Expand full comment
Secret Agent Super Dragon's avatar

When the NYT tries to write an article like this it’s either “man, everybody sure loves Trump!” or it’s “we can’t tell, it’s super complicated” with nothing in between. If you read enough of these articles, you’d hardly believe that Joe won with eighty million votes in 2020.

Expand full comment
Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Evan. I love the desert -- to visit. I would not live there.

Expand full comment
Schrodiner’s Karen's avatar

AZ born and raised. I left because obvs it sucks a bit. But I know AZ and I believe abortion will win there.

Like, I had a soft spot for Kari Lake from my childhood memories of morning news while getting ready for school. I still love her voice! To the point I was afraid her charisma and familiarity would get her elected with ease. But Arizonans are tough. While we all know a lot of evangelical assholes, I trust Arizonans to choose independence (from government) first. Not all, but enough. I think we'll pull through for the senate too. AZ bitches got backbone. Don't tell us what to do.

Expand full comment
insert_something_creative's avatar

Also AZ born and raised, and I couldn't agree more. Even though it has historically been GOP and was when I was growing up, it had always been more anti-tax/pro-gun than religious right like in the South. There's a strong streak of independence in that state, and I think voters will come out in force to vote against the GOP because Arizonans don't take kindly to people telling them what they can do and how to live their lives.

Expand full comment
Michael Strickland's avatar

I noticed that comments were not allowed on this particular article, which was too bad because the subscribers have been almost as mean about these kind of stories as people on this site. And I'm so happy my spouse cancelled the subscription a few months ago while sending a note that was a resounding fuck you after Maureen Dowd's latest idiocy.

Expand full comment
el duderino's avatar

Thank you, Evan, for occasionally reminding me why I cancelled my NYT subscription and started giving my moneys to yr Wonket

Expand full comment
WomanInThePersistence's avatar

I am really beginning to think that the New York Times is run by idiots. Their desperate attempts to both sides the abortion issue is exhibit one.

I still like Wordle, and some of their not batshit crazy columnists. But I am pleased that the paper itself hasn't got one thin dime of mine in years. (Full disclosure, I get free day old copies at work.)

Expand full comment
tempusfugit's avatar

They are bought and paid for whores to fascist billionaire interests.

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

I'm sure the news is considered fair and balanced to anyone who lives in Manhattan.

Expand full comment
tempusfugit's avatar

LOL. Very good snark *grimace*

Actually, however, even most stinking rich Manhattan parasites loathe PAB. He and his trash relatives have been personae non gratae there for decades.

Expand full comment
Wookiee Monster's avatar

It wouldn’t be the NYT without a Cletus Safari.

Expand full comment
Nemo's avatar

I'm sick and tired of the "women are just broodmares" movement.

Expand full comment
belfryo's avatar

I fucking DESPISE this kind of 'playing dumb' the NYT is doing...It is LITERALLY gaslighting and running cover for republican trash...What a WONDERFUL opportunity this would have been for the NYT to write up an overview of the issue and how its been playing out over the last year...To 'fail to mention' the ballot initiatives and referendums in deep red states like KS, OH, AL that shored up abortion rights and access is LITERAL journalistic malpractice...This is NOT something that ANYONE in this line of work could have missed... A kind of "lie of omission"...The NYT is engaging in DEEPLY immoral journalistic practices...

Expand full comment
Lizard's avatar

The Trump years were fucking great for journalists. I almost don't blame them for wanting it back except for the whole "end of democracy and the free press" hitch. Slap whatever dumb shit Trump vomited onto Twitter at 3am into a headline, write five paragraphs about how it's dumb shit but also Democrats are bad, done, time for a liquid lunch.

Expand full comment
insert_something_creative's avatar

Epitome of lazy journalism.

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Since every Republican in Washington was too busy with that whole governance thing to follow Trump's tweets, you didn't even have to get their take on things and expand it to eight 'graphs.

Expand full comment
tempusfugit's avatar

The Pussy Ass Bitch years were fucking great for fucking whores who write shit.

Nothing that works for Murdochtrashmedia is a 'journalist.'

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Remember Colbert's putdown of the DC press corps at the Bush WHPC dinner?

Eight years of Obama making them work for a living, and the Trump administration, not just Trump but the whole administration, was like manna from Heaven.

Expand full comment
tempusfugit's avatar

Yes. PAB: a clown so cretinous it made them look 'smart' and so whorish they never had to do a lick of actual journalism.

Ugh.

Expand full comment
Lionel “8647” Hutz's avatar

"They explain that they met some people who said they’re going to vote for Donald Trump anyway, even if they don’t like the reversal of abortion rights,"

You can also find people who will vote for Donald Trump, even though he launched a violent coup to try to stay in office after losing the election, is happy to sell out the United States to China, Saudi Arabia and Russia (we be doo . . . . ahhhhh https://youtu.be/93RfwgrR6Zk?si=gdHDMixjnTsMVMlz&t=150 ), and belittles our brave service members and gold star families while mocking the handicapped.

Expand full comment
Lefty Wright's avatar

Or as Trump said, he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose a single vote. That is accurate and says a lot about his cult.

Expand full comment
Nicholas Harpole's avatar

I have seen attendees at Trump rallies say we need a dictator..

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Are they really picky, or would it be cool if the dictator's name was Joe Biden?

You put a different person in the job now, and you have to change all the letterhead and recycle the old stuff. It's a pain in the ass.

Expand full comment
Major Is My Spirit Animal's avatar

Ima guess that the NYT has some affirmative action hires for reporting that were hired for their inablilty to see their fingers in front of their faces at high noon.

But that's OK, keep up the "suspense" about how this is going to wash out - sort of like the "red wave" except much drier in AZ.

Expand full comment
WomanInThePersistence's avatar

I say this with love. You really might want to re-think that "affirmative action" thing.

Expand full comment
Lefty Wright's avatar

Maybe he was referring to the underrepresented Nazis on their staff.

Expand full comment
AppleScruff's avatar

“I’m pretty pro-life, but I think it should be the woman’s choice,”

Pssst… who’s gonna tell darling Nikki that means she’s actually PRO-CHOICE?

Expand full comment
Chuck Dickens's avatar

Certainly not the rabid raccoon in her cranium.

Expand full comment
Tony Seybert's avatar

It reminds me when I saw people saying that Juno was a pro-life movie. And I’m like, did you watch it? She had a choice. Juno is a pro-choice movie, you fucking dickheads.

Expand full comment
Chuck Dickens's avatar

The young girl made the difficult choice that the insufferable work at home husband couldn’t work out.

Expand full comment
Lizard's avatar

I read and thought "wait a minute..."

Expand full comment
Mike's avatar

From another source the current state of the Union: Florida - forfeited its status as member of the United States as well as a participant in Civilization; Texas - has declared a permanent state of emergency pending declaration of war with Mexico; Arizona - declared a solar hazardous environment unfit for humans, current residents will not recover from micro-waved brains. To keep an even 50 statehood is granted to D.C., Guam and Puerto Rico.

Expand full comment
Demme Fatale's avatar

Lol, "solar hazardous environment!"

This Californian says: take pity on the TX, FL, and AZ wonkers!

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

At least we fixed that pesky hole in the ozone thing.

Expand full comment
Mark's avatar

Everyone seems to forget American Samoa. They deserve statehood, too.

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

They've already got American in their name.

Expand full comment
Doug Langley's avatar

Remember the good ole days when headlines presented the facts of what happened, and speculation was kept to the opinion pages?

Expand full comment
Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

I remember seeing front page stories in the WSJ that explained with facts and numbers that some idea or policy was a really bad idea with scary repercussions, followed by a piece on the oped page advocating for that actual idea or policy to be implemented, distorting the information I just read on the front page to make their point.

Expand full comment