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"In conclusion we do not like or trust The New York Times again today, the end."

Bad faith all the way up.

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They asked 14 people wearing MAGA hats and one old guy in line at the gas station and that's how they got their percentages -

this goes back to when Reagan was crushing Jimmy Carter and the advertising went down to zero - now; they run samples that have it "close" always, so they get juice each side for advertising. Especially now with Twit & Facepalm & Knick-Knack in the mix.

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They have so many people struggling for advertising - they either have to lie flat out (Fox "News"), or make the dumbest comments ever (Fox "News" - Steve "why is he still not in prison" Bannon) absolute morons like Gaetz, Greene, Jordon...the list of Milquetoast Minions for 45 is too long - but; what they have going is "no press is bad press, even if it's bad press" - polls done by people wanting ad revenue are never going to be less that even.

In this case, the saddest part is that anyone would still vote for 45. Even if the sample is 15 people it escapes the mind on how anyone still thinks he's good for the country.

It's going to be a wild ride, two old chuggers, wheezing to the finish line, with tons more enablers on 45's side - fingers crossed that enough people see Don the Con for what he is and send him packing.

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First, not only are those "overall" numbers more heavily weighted for rural votes, but also ignore that there are far less rural voters than urban or suburban. A trash poll by people that either can't do math, or are actually do and are fudging the numbers.

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🎯🎯🎯You can make a poll say anything you want. This is proof.

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So ... how do I know the Times and this Siena College actually did conduct a poll and that the Times didn't just make the whole thing up? What evidence is there? Did they release the raw data? I'm serious ... how does anyone actually know? Ask this Siena College? I'm just getting more and more skeptical about things like this and the Times in particular. I don't trust them not to make things up.

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They asked 14 people wearing MAGA hats and one old guy in line at the gas station and that's how they got their percentages -

this goes back to when Reagan was crushing Jimmy Carter and the advertising went down to zero - now; they run samples that have it "close" always, so they get juice each side for advertising. Especially now with Twit & Facepalm & Knick-Knack in the mix.

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This poll was either landlines or people that answer their phone from an unknown number, either way, not representative of most people. And there is absolutely no way women like tangeranus more than Biden. That's just ridiculous.

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“Women are 20 percentage points more likely to say that Mr. Trump’s policies have helped them than Mr. Biden’s have, despite the fact that Mr. Trump installed Supreme Court justices who ultimately overturned the right to an abortion and that about two-thirds of women in America think that abortion should be legal in all or most instances.” - Were these polls conducted while a gun was pointed at a kitten’s head? Inquiring minds want to know.

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More like, "with hubby listening in on the extension".

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That too.

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The NYT has to skew toward Trump because otherwise he will call them "the failing New York Times" again and his faithful won't read it.

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They already don't read the NYT. They don't read, period.

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Thank you!

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On the question of whether the NYT/Sienna poll sampling, with 36% of the sample being "rural" voters, is representative of actual rural population in the US....

the answer is: "LOL, WTF, hell no, that is not even close."

The Census Bureau summarizes the 2020 census results, and says the rural population is 20%.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-rural-populations.html

The difference between 36% (poll) and 20% (actual), as they say in the polling business, is ginormous. And, it would account for a fatal bias in results toward conservative beliefs and the Pussy Ass Bitch.

That's not great, Bob.

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Yeah, but more of the country is bare land, er rural, so rural voters get a bigger percentage. Or something.

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And don't forget the all-important Farm Animal votes!

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NYT is trying to depress turnout among Ds and D-leaning independents. We cannot let that happen. GOTV! And if you live in a red state (particularly in a blue area), please check your voter registration. In fact, go ahead and check it no matter where you live.

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Sometimes, on my more optimistic days, I think that all this media bullshit is giving Republicans the rope that they need to finally hang themselves (WITH VOTES). I picture repugnant GOPers reading about all these wonderful-for-them polls, and saying to themselves, "huh, being blatantly horrible is paying off for us, let's try being even more blatantly horrible!" And then, when, inevitably, at some point in the future, reality comes down on them, hard, their party will so universally be regarded as disgusting and toxic, that there will be no hope of return for them, and the Republican party will be dead, dead, dead (WITH VOTES).

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yup, dumped my NYT subscription months ago, even though it was still a screaming deal. Even $4 a month is too much.

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Pretty much every commenter on Jeff Tiedrich's substack have said they recently cancelled the "NYET" over their horseshit.

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Since I'm not going to bother actually reading the poll -- I never read polls -- I'll just have to wonder if they bothered asking probably the most important question: who did you vote for in 2020?

I suspect if they had, the poll would assert that Trump had won the popular vote by about seven points.

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How did Harlan Crow even fit all of the NY Times on his yacht?

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Only had to fit the owner.

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Of course MAGAs are gonna pick up for pollsters. No one else will talk to them.

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I asked my cat to meow if she thinks Donald Trump committed serious crimes and she meowed!

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Probably about as scientific as this poll.

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