See? Everything's fine now. Newt Gingrich, that brilliant historian of history who knows history real good, is seriously worried Barack Obama will weaken America's place in the world when he visits Hiroshima later this month, the first time a sitting U.S. president has traveled to the site of the first atomic bombing. And while the administration has taken pains to insist that the visit will not involve an apology for the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed
The death rate I was quoting was solely in the camps and, before they went in, these were mainly young, fit, well nourished young men. I have also refrained from pointing out that, in the minds of the Japanese High Command, the European POWs were treated well. Korean, Chinese and Philippine POWs were either just slaughtered or worked under even harder conditions.
My point is that comparing the US internment of Japanese Americans (or the British internment of German and Italian naturalised Britons) with camps whose sole purpose was to work prisoners to death is specious, you are NOT comparing like to like. It is far from being an apples with oranges comparison, it is more like comparing apples with concrete.
And please stop assuming that only the US was involved in the conflict.
Many of the folks in my Dad's hometown (Middletown, OH), especially oldz, grumbled and bitched when a Japanese company (Kawasaki, I think) saved the only industry for miles - Armco Steel. It was amazing to hear people actually say that they'd rather have no jobs than work for "those Japs that bombed our boys in Pearl Harbor". This was in the late 80's/early 90's.
I once knew a second generation Japanese-American who was put in an internment camp in the spring of 1942, along with all of his relatives and more than 150,000 people of Japanese descent, roughly two thirds of whom were American citizens born on the soil of the USA. They stayed in those camps for the entire war. They lost everything, of course. The western states from which all citizens of Japanese ancestry were excluded were delighted to confiscate the businesses and property of those people and auction the windfall off to other American citizens for a pennies on the dollar, including, of course, German-Americans and Italian-Americans, none of whom were imprisoned unless they were actually convicted of a crime.
The guy I knew never mentioned boycotting the products made by his fellow Americans. He and his family managed to rebuild their businesses without any help from the states or other levels of government which treated them so shabbily; and in the teeth of incredible bigotry for a generation.
It was 40 years or so before President Carter authorized an investigation into the purpose and results of the internment. In 1988, President Reagan officially apologized to those American citizens for their unjust incarceration and shameful treatment during World War II. Reagan signed a law making the apology official. Aside from authorizing financial reparations, the legislation stated that virtually every government action at every level was based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership," not to mention greed.
Prolly not (or he's counting on his listeners not to). Anyone not a Christian has Luntzianly become an atheist. They have stopped believing in anything that isn't binary.
The death rate I was quoting was solely in the camps and, before they went in, these were mainly young, fit, well nourished young men. I have also refrained from pointing out that, in the minds of the Japanese High Command, the European POWs were treated well. Korean, Chinese and Philippine POWs were either just slaughtered or worked under even harder conditions.
My point is that comparing the US internment of Japanese Americans (or the British internment of German and Italian naturalised Britons) with camps whose sole purpose was to work prisoners to death is specious, you are NOT comparing like to like. It is far from being an apples with oranges comparison, it is more like comparing apples with concrete.
And please stop assuming that only the US was involved in the conflict.
Always. ALWAYS.
It's his interim plan, before he becomes KING OF THE MOON!!
At least they had the excuse of being too young to know what they were doing.
sad but true!
Thing is a good description.
Kawasaki did not 'save' Armco.Buy an american car.
Mills are open and folks still have jobs; 7,900 of them in 2015. Armco was near bankruptcy. Sounds like they saved them to me.
Harry S Truman, not Harry S. Truman.
Many of the folks in my Dad's hometown (Middletown, OH), especially oldz, grumbled and bitched when a Japanese company (Kawasaki, I think) saved the only industry for miles - Armco Steel. It was amazing to hear people actually say that they'd rather have no jobs than work for "those Japs that bombed our boys in Pearl Harbor". This was in the late 80's/early 90's.
If the Brits hadn't firebombed Dresden I would never have seen Valerie Perrine's breasts, so there's that.
I once knew a second generation Japanese-American who was put in an internment camp in the spring of 1942, along with all of his relatives and more than 150,000 people of Japanese descent, roughly two thirds of whom were American citizens born on the soil of the USA. They stayed in those camps for the entire war. They lost everything, of course. The western states from which all citizens of Japanese ancestry were excluded were delighted to confiscate the businesses and property of those people and auction the windfall off to other American citizens for a pennies on the dollar, including, of course, German-Americans and Italian-Americans, none of whom were imprisoned unless they were actually convicted of a crime.
The guy I knew never mentioned boycotting the products made by his fellow Americans. He and his family managed to rebuild their businesses without any help from the states or other levels of government which treated them so shabbily; and in the teeth of incredible bigotry for a generation.
It was 40 years or so before President Carter authorized an investigation into the purpose and results of the internment. In 1988, President Reagan officially apologized to those American citizens for their unjust incarceration and shameful treatment during World War II. Reagan signed a law making the apology official. Aside from authorizing financial reparations, the legislation stated that virtually every government action at every level was based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership," not to mention greed.
Now be nice.
Prolly not (or he's counting on his listeners not to). Anyone not a Christian has Luntzianly become an atheist. They have stopped believing in anything that isn't binary.
The internment was unjustified, immoral and hateful; but comparing them to the death camps in Malaya and Indo-China is, frankly, sick.
The militaristic mindset that lead to those machines of torture and massacre was, even in my atheist opinion, evil.
Piss - off
That's nothing Newtie!
Paul Ryan left the Republican cake out in the rain and Trump eated it.https://media1.giphy.com/me...
Japan revenged itself on us by giving us Hello Kitty.