Cleveland PD has been celebrating today at the marvelous return to the living of three young women (and a tiny girl born into captivity) who were snatched a decade ago by three of the ugliest motherfuckers we have ever had the misfortune of eyeballing. But oh dear. It is starting to look as if the po-po are not going to be celebrating for long, as this
Unfortunately there's a lot of truth to that. I went to school in L.A. many moons ago and the running joke even back then was that LAPD was nothing more than publicly subsidized security for the folks in the gated communities. The job of the police in this country has devolved into keeping the riff raff out of rich people's neighborhoods and keeping the lid on the seething chronic problems in the poor neighborhoods.
I thought I had some sort of paradigm for this to fit in, but I don't. Terrible things happened in a marginal neighborhood, to marginal people. Nobody gets paid enough to care about it, they apparently weren't even looking for the oldest abductee because, fuck it, she was an adult. And it we were hoping that law enforcement and working old cases got better in Cleveland in the crater of this economic clusterfuck, that was fantasy. The lucky thing is that the woman even got through to 911 and got a response THIS TIME, good thing she got a halfway decent operator. Now, let's all hope that Cleveland PD and city govt can stop stepping on their own dicks long enough to maybe make some improvements to how they treat cases of missing people that are not from the favored magic quadrant of society.
I know what you mean, but think of this in a very liberal way. Best outcome is to super-max them for life, no chance of parole, no general population where they can get drugs and sex, just plain jail. I don't think we need to assume they will be raped, beat up, otherwise punished to find justice. Just plain old-ass jail until they expire naturally. No interviews with 60 Minutes, no writing books, nothing is released that may profit them until after death. All I want is that one day, about 25 years from now, somebody has to google these assholes, or the boston bomber, or Fort Hood shooter asshole not to see what motivated them, but just to check if they have died yet in some prison in Colorado. (What about the other OKC bombing guy, is he dead yet? I don't care enough to keep up, which is exactly how is should be.)
I have a call to make, there is a house in my area with ALL blacked out windows, no lights, no activity. I hope it is either 1: grow house 2:sealed foreclosure 3:just somebody with light sensitivities.
Location, Location, Location. UWS in NYC= Safe Wrong block in Washington Heights, literally by 100 feet=hope you can run fast DC 4000 block of Wisconsin Ave= safe DC 5 blocks the wrong way from US Capitol= Jesus, I said run, right? Well run faster!
I can't speak for Biff, but I have discussed it- many times. I've argued against the attitude, nearly gotten in barroom fights trying to defend against it, terminated friendships over misogynist attitudes and belittling speech. I've participated in programs and events to help teach and enlighten people about gender diversity, sexual identity diversity, racial or religious diversity. I'm not exactly sure why you keep making these sweeping generalizations, but they are in fact inaccurate. BTW, latest I heard re: Steubenville was that 2 teenage girls were sentenced for making threatening tweets and FB posts to the victim. I guess in all that talking amongst yourselves, you women forgot to explain to those girls why it is unacceptable to menace the victim of a rape. so maybe we should blame all females for their horrible actions- either that, or like I have been saying the whole time, maybe we should refrain from stereotyping.
I'd talk more about the subject, but frankly I just don't know anyone who thinks rape is OK. I don't associate with sexist people, bigots, racists, homophobes and whatnot so it's hard to change attitudes when they're already evolved. Unfortunately, as we move on as a society, we tend to leave behind those that can't or won't keep up, so they become more isolated and more insular and thus, more self supporting and rationalizing. It's easy to changes attitudes at first, getting to the last hardcore group is the hard part.
I'm 65. I've never raped anyone, or forced myself on anyone. I have never known anyone who admitted to (or bragged about) doing so. I have two sons. I have tried to model good behavior among the sexes, and so far it seems to be working. This is probably my best anti-rape activity.
Post high school, my experience with groups of men is that there was surprisingly little discussion of women. I say "surprisingly" because according to contemporaneous movies and teevee, my life should have been full of lascivious commentary. Maybe my personal experience was mediated by the fact that most of my male friends were, like me, upper-middle-class nerds.
In a prior comment, you asked: "A majority of rapists are men. How do you not feel a collective need to talk amongst yourself to work it out?"
To that, I reply: The category "men" is too large to be useful. A very large majority of men are not rapists. We normally find ourselves dealing with the minority who are after the fact. As far as I can see, the best we can do is to try to help the next generation to be more aware.
Wooks, seriously, if they had 911 calls about naked women on leashes, MORE THAN ONCE, shouldn't that provoke a mild investigative response?
I appreciate your remarks about funding, but this situation sounds like "We've been cut back so we're just going through the motions", and I really cannot excuse that. If you have a public service job, and you get cut back to the point where you're just going through the motions, you should quit. I admit I've never been in that position, but there is a thing about a public service job -- it's supposed to be a kind of commitment.
Right. Let's pause to recall the shitwit Milwaukee cops who sent a naked, raped, drugged, and bleeding 14-year-old boy back into the hands of Jeffrey Dahmer, so he could murder him with a power drill and then eat hm.
Because they thought it was just some fags screwing around. Those two cops are John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish. Both were fired but then reinstated. They are, today, cops in Milwaukee.
In case anyone wants to recall the delightful details, especially the audiotape of the officers making homophobic statements to their dispatcher and cracking jokes about having reunited the &quot;lovers&quot;: <a href="http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Balcerzak" target="_blank">" rel="nofollow noopener" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Balcerzak">http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
in all fairness, we&#039;ve had about as much success influencing other men to quit raping as you&#039;ve had influencing women who have been abused to quit running right back to the guy who just beat the shit out of them. Stupid, fucked up people are stupid and fucked up and there&#039;s not a lot anyone can do to change that fact. I&#039;ll keep fighting all the good fights, but none of us have a magic wand. Lord knows if I did, there&#039;d be some serious changes...
I can has your sammich?
Unfortunately there&#039;s a lot of truth to that. I went to school in L.A. many moons ago and the running joke even back then was that LAPD was nothing more than publicly subsidized security for the folks in the gated communities. The job of the police in this country has devolved into keeping the riff raff out of rich people&#039;s neighborhoods and keeping the lid on the seething chronic problems in the poor neighborhoods.
I thought I had some sort of paradigm for this to fit in, but I don&#039;t. Terrible things happened in a marginal neighborhood, to marginal people. Nobody gets paid enough to care about it, they apparently weren&#039;t even looking for the oldest abductee because, fuck it, she was an adult. And it we were hoping that law enforcement and working old cases got better in Cleveland in the crater of this economic clusterfuck, that was fantasy. The lucky thing is that the woman even got through to 911 and got a response THIS TIME, good thing she got a halfway decent operator. Now, let&#039;s all hope that Cleveland PD and city govt can stop stepping on their own dicks long enough to maybe make some improvements to how they treat cases of missing people that are not from the favored magic quadrant of society.
Those fuckers were REINSTATED?
I grew up in Shorewood. I have mostly nice memories of Milwaukee. This is disgusting.
I know what you mean, but think of this in a very liberal way. Best outcome is to super-max them for life, no chance of parole, no general population where they can get drugs and sex, just plain jail. I don&#039;t think we need to assume they will be raped, beat up, otherwise punished to find justice. Just plain old-ass jail until they expire naturally. No interviews with 60 Minutes, no writing books, nothing is released that may profit them until after death. All I want is that one day, about 25 years from now, somebody has to google these assholes, or the boston bomber, or Fort Hood shooter asshole not to see what motivated them, but just to check if they have died yet in some prison in Colorado. (What about the other OKC bombing guy, is he dead yet? I don&#039;t care enough to keep up, which is exactly how is should be.)
I guess I can&#039;t say N-word head. Testes, 1,2,....3?
Hey, they&#039;ve got the second biggest army in America. You expect them to pay attebntion to your shit?
I have a call to make, there is a house in my area with ALL blacked out windows, no lights, no activity. I hope it is either 1: grow house 2:sealed foreclosure 3:just somebody with light sensitivities.
Location, Location, Location. UWS in NYC= Safe Wrong block in Washington Heights, literally by 100 feet=hope you can run fast DC 4000 block of Wisconsin Ave= safe DC 5 blocks the wrong way from US Capitol= Jesus, I said run, right? Well run faster!
I can&#039;t speak for Biff, but I have discussed it- many times. I&#039;ve argued against the attitude, nearly gotten in barroom fights trying to defend against it, terminated friendships over misogynist attitudes and belittling speech. I&#039;ve participated in programs and events to help teach and enlighten people about gender diversity, sexual identity diversity, racial or religious diversity. I&#039;m not exactly sure why you keep making these sweeping generalizations, but they are in fact inaccurate. BTW, latest I heard re: Steubenville was that 2 teenage girls were sentenced for making threatening tweets and FB posts to the victim. I guess in all that talking amongst yourselves, you women forgot to explain to those girls why it is unacceptable to menace the victim of a rape. so maybe we should blame all females for their horrible actions- either that, or like I have been saying the whole time, maybe we should refrain from stereotyping.
I&#039;d talk more about the subject, but frankly I just don&#039;t know anyone who thinks rape is OK. I don&#039;t associate with sexist people, bigots, racists, homophobes and whatnot so it&#039;s hard to change attitudes when they&#039;re already evolved. Unfortunately, as we move on as a society, we tend to leave behind those that can&#039;t or won&#039;t keep up, so they become more isolated and more insular and thus, more self supporting and rationalizing. It&#039;s easy to changes attitudes at first, getting to the last hardcore group is the hard part.
I&#039;m 65. I&#039;ve never raped anyone, or forced myself on anyone. I have never known anyone who admitted to (or bragged about) doing so. I have two sons. I have tried to model good behavior among the sexes, and so far it seems to be working. This is probably my best anti-rape activity.
Post high school, my experience with groups of men is that there was surprisingly little discussion of women. I say &quot;surprisingly&quot; because according to contemporaneous movies and teevee, my life should have been full of lascivious commentary. Maybe my personal experience was mediated by the fact that most of my male friends were, like me, upper-middle-class nerds.
In a prior comment, you asked: &quot;A majority of rapists are men. How do you not feel a collective need to talk amongst yourself to work it out?&quot;
To that, I reply: The category &quot;men&quot; is too large to be useful. A very large majority of men are not rapists. We normally find ourselves dealing with the minority who are after the fact. As far as I can see, the best we can do is to try to help the next generation to be more aware.
Wooks, seriously, if they had 911 calls about naked women on leashes, MORE THAN ONCE, shouldn&#039;t that provoke a mild investigative response?
I appreciate your remarks about funding, but this situation sounds like &quot;We&#039;ve been cut back so we&#039;re just going through the motions&quot;, and I really cannot excuse that. If you have a public service job, and you get cut back to the point where you&#039;re just going through the motions, you should quit. I admit I&#039;ve never been in that position, but there is a thing about a public service job -- it&#039;s supposed to be a kind of commitment.
Right. Let&#039;s pause to recall the shitwit Milwaukee cops who sent a naked, raped, drugged, and bleeding 14-year-old boy back into the hands of Jeffrey Dahmer, so he could murder him with a power drill and then eat hm.
Because they thought it was just some fags screwing around. Those two cops are John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish. Both were fired but then reinstated. They are, today, cops in Milwaukee.
In case anyone wants to recall the delightful details, especially the audiotape of the officers making homophobic statements to their dispatcher and cracking jokes about having reunited the &quot;lovers&quot;: <a href="http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Balcerzak" target="_blank">" rel="nofollow noopener" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Balcerzak">http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Really SC... really?
in all fairness, we&#039;ve had about as much success influencing other men to quit raping as you&#039;ve had influencing women who have been abused to quit running right back to the guy who just beat the shit out of them. Stupid, fucked up people are stupid and fucked up and there&#039;s not a lot anyone can do to change that fact. I&#039;ll keep fighting all the good fights, but none of us have a magic wand. Lord knows if I did, there&#039;d be some serious changes...
yeah, but those were cardboard cutouts of Nancy Pelosi