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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

There will be a great gnashing of garments and rending of teeth when MAGAtWorld gets word of this.

Ohio going woke!

Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Robyn. I fight for the rights of ALL minorities, including women, who are actually in the majority. Marital rape should be illegal everywhere.

LuluBean12 StarGeezer's avatar

Where is there a list of the holdout states?

I am ever amazed to find out just how few rights some assholes feel I deserve to have.

Ethereal Fairy's avatar

"One voted against it" Found the rapist. just like when Matt gaetz voted against funds support services for victims of sex trafficking.

"Gaetz, subject of sex trafficking probe, votes against sex trafficking bill (again)".

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-bill-rcna40219

Doloras LaPicho's avatar

"I really am just trying to pull my jaw up off the floor here as I try to imagine the thought process that went into carving out those exceptions in the first place."

Very simple. The English common-law doctrine of coverture, which can be summed up as: "a husband and wife are the same person under law, and that person is the husband". You can't rape yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverture

Bruce's avatar

"Rep. Bill Dean, R-Xenia, said he was concerned that it could "be used as a wedge between husband and wife.""

[mutter mutter mutter] I'd like to drive a wedge somewhere ....

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

He probably told us a lot more about his marriage than he really wanted to.

The G-7 Experience's avatar

Oh god, Idaho is probably in the fucked up column in this story...

Furiouser and Furiouser's avatar

Because if you marry a woman, she belongs to you, to do with what you like when you like.

A Humbled Former Paranoid's avatar

In less happy r@pe news, convicted rapist Harvey Weinstein got his rape conviction overturned. This puts him in the same “we all know he did it, but we can’t quite put him in jail” file as Cosby and Trump.

Ethereal Fairy's avatar

They always buy their way out eventually, don't they?

desimomo's avatar

This was New York. He was also convicted of rape in California, so they are just moving him to a prison there (for 16 years).

tim gueguen's avatar

And will bring out the "See, he didn't actually do it! "B****hes be lying!" crowd who treat any sort of acquittal as proof the scumbag is innocent.

Tza's avatar

Sometimes my wish to stay single makes me a bit sad and lonely. This is not one of those times.

LunaMoonstone's avatar

Listen, I get that consensual non-consensual role play is a thing and that anything taken out of context can be really bad, but if you’re a married person and you’re worried a law like this is bad for marriages, well… I feel like you might be telling on yourself a little.

Bruce's avatar

and by 'a little', I think it's loudly. With a bullhorn.

No Quid Bro Code's avatar

Another woke attack on traditional marriage. gO wOke GO bROkE!

goCatgo's avatar

Ohmygosh! Most of the states of this here Union may join the 20th Century! Eventually.

My alma mater is not a dainty, sweet little college tucked away in the hills of Vermont.

Yesterday the LA County Sheriff's Swat took over the campus. (I thought we got rid of Nixon!)

But OSU is a monsta for miles and miles. Between corn fields and onion fields.

Mine is between Hollywood and Disneyland. Oh well.

It is worthwhile to stop in Ohio to see the Foohbaw HOF and the Rock 'n Roll HOF.

Maybe an Indians game. Oh sorry, a Crusaders, I mean Guardians (I think) game.

And scales and Mudhens in Toledo. The 'Hens are part of Baseball History.

That's all I know.

Notorious J.I.M.'s avatar

If near Cleveland I recommend the Metroparks system. Look around a little and find cool WPA projects.

goCatgo's avatar

I enjoyed Cleveland. Good food and beers! Fair prices for downtown.

ShrillKitty's avatar

Really, really OT, but I love Justice Jackson's choice of jewelry for her official photo.

Babe Paley's avatar

OT, and I am sure we'll have a post on this, but Alito asked such an inane question that I had to say something, because the attorney didn't answer it the way I would have--so Alito's basically saying that one needs presidential immunity because what if (let's just say) there's a close, contested election, and the president doesn't agree with it, wouldn't that person be afraid of prosecution for, let's just say, whatever by the person they lost to?

Throwing it back at you, Alito--well, I guess that's how that would work, because if you say all presidents have blanket immunity for any sort of thing ever, why couldn't the incumbent just do WHATEVER to the vanquished former president? With total immunity? Since when does this justice care about the fears and feelings of the accused? I suppose it would just suck to be the loser in that scenario. You'd have dueling immunity at that point, yes? I, now president, get to do whatever I chose even if it's completely illegal, because immunity. You, former president, also get to do whatever, due to immunity.

So we have a stand off until one just does something (that I won't say, because rules) to the other that ends the whole thing permanently, I guess?

Bruce's avatar

it was worse than that. It wasn't " there's a close, contested election, and the president doesn't agree with it, wouldn't that person be afraid of prosecution for, let's just say, whatever by the person they lost to?" it was " there's a close, contested election, and the president doesn't agree with it, wouldn't that person be afraid of prosecution for fomenting a coup to remain in power, which would be the downfall of our democracy?"

(not the " fomenting a coup part, the "prosecuting the failed coup plotter for the coup part" )

He's just showing his ass to all of us and rubbing it our faces now.

The G-7 Experience's avatar

Yeah, I caught that the attorney was not answering the question/ had misinterpreted it...

Prometheus59650's avatar

Former Associate White House Counsel Ian Bassin cut right to the chase, writing, "Now Trump’s lawyer is saying a president could order the military to stage a coup to keep him in power and could be immune from any future prosecution. This is INSANE. Trump is putting in fancy legal arguments that the Supreme Court should grant him absolute power if reelected."

The Nation columnist and frequent MSNBC legal analyst Elie Mystal suggested, "Kagan asking Sauer if a President *literally ordering a coup* would be an official act. Under Sauer's theory it's an official act and he's trying so hard not to say it and it's like listening to the internal monologue of an addict trying not to hit the pipe again."

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Winning the argument is not the point.

Delay is the point.

And they are absolutely win more delay as this will get kicked back to the DC Circuit because, at minimum, "u HaVe To NamE TruMp iN EverYThinG."

No Quid Bro Code's avatar

Won’t Joe Brandon be the first president to be able to exercise these Sun King powers? Just sayin’

tim gueguen's avatar

They only apply to Real Presidents(tm).

<Insert Witty Username>'s avatar

And yet they still might win the argument.

Prometheus59650's avatar

It honestly sounds like they might be fine with doing some "one-time" (wink-wink) carve-outs.

Wojciech's avatar

just like Bush v. Gore

Gammarae's avatar

yeah, yet another case that can't be used as a precedent. great.