Idaho is talking about similar shite regarding Initiatives- their Jam is requiring a majority in each County rather than statewide so all the places with more cows than people can subvert the statewide majority...not subtle at all.
A few years back, Ohioans put a cannabis legalization issue on the ballot. It was listed as Issue 2. The Republican legislature put Issue 1 on the ballot, designed to negate Issue 2. Voters had to be educated to vote no on Issue 1 and yes on Issue 2. If Issue 1 passed, it would go into effect first, preventing Issue 2 from going into effect even it if passed.
The Left wants to jam it in there this coming November.
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My word, jam it in there using *majority rule*? The horror! All good Republicans know that the only *real* way to do something is by gerrymandered minority rule, or requiring a supermajority to get anything done! It looks like the first method is going to fail them in this case, so time to trot out the second.
Ohio? Wait. Isn't that the grotesque medieval enclave where a bill was actually introduced - House Bill 413 - sponsored by Reps. Candice Keller and Ron Hood - that would have required doctors, in the case of ectopic pregnancies, to remove and implant anew the misplaced foetus, in an area of the womb where it would be viable, a medical procedure that does not exist and cannot be performed.
The bill didn't pass. But we can all be sure the Ohio legislature will keep trying.
Keller and Hood's names should be despised and mocked across the nation. Minimum.
I honestly don't see that much difference. We can't embed graphics, true, nor format text. But other than that, it's your basic comments format as far as I can tell.
Our lege is pulling this same shit in Missouri, along with a hefty assist from our asshole AG, which we seem to have an incredible knack for turning out:(
The Ohio situation just pisses me off. Sure, it's wonderful that the voters want to enshrine abortion rights into law. But back when it would have counted, last election day, you voted for J.D. Vance, Jim Jordan. and a host of other Repunk flatworms. What did you think was going to happen to your rights then?
Don't forget that we were also stuck voting under *unconstitutional* gerrymandered maps specifically designed to limit left wing voices. We have a hugely corrupt state lege that is functioning much like a Trojan horse virus on our government, and it's fighting like hell to keep replicating itself no matter what the voters want.
So they are trying to get a citizens intiative reproductive freedom amendment in Florida. It's actually not as hard to get one in Florida as some places, which is why we have so many damned amendments. This would be the text:
"No law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider. This amendment does not change the Legislature’s constitutional authority to require notification to a parent or guardian before a minor has an abortion."
THis breaks down the numbers needed and other info.
Unfortunately North Carolina has no provisions for a citizen initiated state constitutional amendment or law. Only the legislature can put forward any such issue up for a popular vote.
States that have these tend to have them because Republicans were not in total control and were looking for backdoors to gain that control. Once they got it, they don't need it no mo, hence why the same bozos in Ohio who were allllll for it are now suddenly against it
Idaho is talking about similar shite regarding Initiatives- their Jam is requiring a majority in each County rather than statewide so all the places with more cows than people can subvert the statewide majority...not subtle at all.
A few years back, Ohioans put a cannabis legalization issue on the ballot. It was listed as Issue 2. The Republican legislature put Issue 1 on the ballot, designed to negate Issue 2. Voters had to be educated to vote no on Issue 1 and yes on Issue 2. If Issue 1 passed, it would go into effect first, preventing Issue 2 from going into effect even it if passed.
That's how these shitstains operate.
One episode of Teen Titans has the magical line
"Hello, fellow ugly monsters!"
And I think I will use that as my daily greeting here for a while.
Hello back ugly monster!
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The Left wants to jam it in there this coming November.
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My word, jam it in there using *majority rule*? The horror! All good Republicans know that the only *real* way to do something is by gerrymandered minority rule, or requiring a supermajority to get anything done! It looks like the first method is going to fail them in this case, so time to trot out the second.
Ram it down their throatz!
Is the OH GOP's ballot initiative being put forward by Bob Dobbolina? Mr. Bob Dobbolina??
Ohio? Wait. Isn't that the grotesque medieval enclave where a bill was actually introduced - House Bill 413 - sponsored by Reps. Candice Keller and Ron Hood - that would have required doctors, in the case of ectopic pregnancies, to remove and implant anew the misplaced foetus, in an area of the womb where it would be viable, a medical procedure that does not exist and cannot be performed.
The bill didn't pass. But we can all be sure the Ohio legislature will keep trying.
Keller and Hood's names should be despised and mocked across the nation. Minimum.
Oof.
Not that any body's on pins & needles, but this commenting system is so completely fucked up, I Am Outta Here.
I honestly don't see that much difference. We can't embed graphics, true, nor format text. But other than that, it's your basic comments format as far as I can tell.
Bye.
you keep saying that on different threads.
weird.
Yeah, I know. Just can't quit this place... I'll try to shut up now, honest.
Our lege is pulling this same shit in Missouri, along with a hefty assist from our asshole AG, which we seem to have an incredible knack for turning out:(
This thing must be supported by ALEC and the Koch Bros'.
And the Republican Party would have succeeded too, if it hadn't been for your meddlesome democracy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCS-g3HwXdc
It's Ohio.
The Ohio situation just pisses me off. Sure, it's wonderful that the voters want to enshrine abortion rights into law. But back when it would have counted, last election day, you voted for J.D. Vance, Jim Jordan. and a host of other Repunk flatworms. What did you think was going to happen to your rights then?
Don't forget that we were also stuck voting under *unconstitutional* gerrymandered maps specifically designed to limit left wing voices. We have a hugely corrupt state lege that is functioning much like a Trojan horse virus on our government, and it's fighting like hell to keep replicating itself no matter what the voters want.
Come on ohio!!
It's like the repukes don't even believe in democracy.
"The Left wants to jam it in there"
These republicans really are all into jamming and cramming.
...and ramming.
Packing and cracking also too.
So they are trying to get a citizens intiative reproductive freedom amendment in Florida. It's actually not as hard to get one in Florida as some places, which is why we have so many damned amendments. This would be the text:
"No law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider. This amendment does not change the Legislature’s constitutional authority to require notification to a parent or guardian before a minor has an abortion."
THis breaks down the numbers needed and other info.
https://dos.elections.myflorida.com/Initiatives/initdetail.asp?account=83927&seqnum=1
And this handy little handbook has even MORE info, although now I can't find where I read the deadline for signatures. It was either Feb. or April of 2024. https://files.floridados.gov/media/706586/master-2024-cycle-initv-petn-sponsoring-political-comm-user-gd-20230425-final.pdf
Unfortunately North Carolina has no provisions for a citizen initiated state constitutional amendment or law. Only the legislature can put forward any such issue up for a popular vote.
Thank God for Roy Cooper. We are on a knifes edge. Also, fuck off cotham.
States that have these tend to have them because Republicans were not in total control and were looking for backdoors to gain that control. Once they got it, they don't need it no mo, hence why the same bozos in Ohio who were allllll for it are now suddenly against it
Actual discussion at the Ohio GOP convention:
Can we just get rid of voting altogether?
Patience, it's a long game.