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Of course Native Americans were left out of the conversation.

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Unfortunately, history reminds that the term "person" can be variously defined . . .

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Defined in a conveniently incorrect manner.

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Well that's certainly generous.

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The black folks who live in Alabama wouldn't be happy if they did.

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Time to dust off the voting booth guillotines .... so we can kill them with votes. Oh wait, a 3/5ths vote doesn't get the job done... that means the guillotines might need to be legally speaking, literal.

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it just goes to show what being a bunch of dumb jews still crying holocaust, the sort that used to be utterly whored over john cole and shit. i think if this generation accomplishes anything, it's to put an end to jews crying victim for attention.

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Thanks, $5F.

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Roll Turd!

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------That's a view entirely inconsistent with Supreme Court precedent, but it's completely in line with recently deceased Republican mapfucker Thomas Hofeller's final solution to enshrine white power by adding a citizenship question to the Census, which would then generate federal data to draw districts based on total eligible voters, rather than on actual residents of the district. And like magic, diverse neighborhoods with young families would magically count as three-fifths the population of older, whiter retirement communities, once you subtract all those pesky kids from the count. Really, the allusion to Reconstruction is the cherry on top!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Did Hofeller forget that this isn't the first half of the 19th century? People cannot be denied citizenship just because they're not white, so even if his horrible idea did work, in the short term, it won't stop the browning of America, including the American Citizenry. What exactly is he planning to do about the Mexican Americans who were actually born on US soil, and thus are citizens of the US by default and not citizens of Mexico? Did he think like Trump that you could just remove birthright citizenship from the constitution if the president himself just wanted it badly enough? Also, what's his plan for South American immigrants who came here and are now citizens?

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Actually I would give more credit to the fourteenth amendment in this instance, since most of the founding fathers sadly would have opposed it, because the idea of giving full citizenship to non whites, especially blacks was horrifying to them generally speaking. Many of them were racist slave owners after all.

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Which I would say that would probably explain it, except for the fact that even in the fifties and the sixties when there was a Nazi SS wannabe loser renascence here, they weren't constantly being confronted by WW2 vets, which back than would have been a lot younger than they are now. Most people don't have the time or patience to confront these sick people on a daily basis, especially if they won't get much out of it.

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But as has been pointed out, they had no problem with counting all the slaves when it would benefit their states to show a higher population.

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True, however it doesn't change the fact that those slaves were treated as property, not human beings under the law, and couldn't vote.

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Which goes to show how stupid the GOP is being now, because even back then, they understood that it didn't matter how you treated the people counted, just so long as they were counted.

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First of all, the "one drop" conception of race has nothing to do with this.If we assume that on some level that race exists, which I would wager most people do, then you also have to find ways to define some people.

What many people on all sides of this issue do not understand is that HISPANIC IS NOT A 'RACE' OR ETHNICITY.

Is a term for people who speak Spanish (or for whom it is/was their native language).People in México and Central and South America understand the distinctions.The ruling classes in most of these countries are all descendants from Spain, i.e. 'white' Europeans. They of course came over the the Americas and conquered the various native groups already here.

Some of the Europeans "intermarried" with the natives (the indios</i)>mestizos). There are way more of these types of names that the Spanish used, some of which are still used today - read this for that info...

https://www.sandiegoreader....

Anyway, the point is that the term "non-Hispanic whites" is used in the US to specifically indicate people who are 'white' but speak Spanish. Note that "non-Hispanic blacks" also exists as a limiter.

Essentially the systems used in all these countries try to use language as another form of bigotry.

See also the comments below by David Brown and TakingAmes

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