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Mike Gesing's avatar

DeWine is a quisling. He'll do the moderate dance until the right wing jumps in his s**t, then about face. Example: His response to Covid was good at the start, but after the anti vax/mask/lockdown crowd got too loud, he hanged Amy Acton MD out like a pinata. No Cookie for you, Mike. And yes, I live in Ohio.

Rebecca Schoenkopf's avatar

for everybody saying "eh he doesn't get a cookie" or whatever ... do we want usually bad people to do a good thing, or do we want them to say "well I'll get shit on either way so might as well keep being awful"?

We progressives aren't persuading anyone to righteousness when we stomp on them for being good just as well as for being bad.

Boojum's avatar

Besides, Jessica Cutler worked as a Staff Ass for him.

theblackdog's avatar

Pfft, I don’t think Mike DeWine actually gives a shit about doing something nice for trans folks. He’ll act like he’s done a noble thing and then when they override the bill he can act like he wasn’t being the bad guy.

He’s still a Republican and he’ll find a way to be extra Republican and harm trans folks along with other LGBTQ+ folks

Nick Sr.'s avatar

I was going to say good for Mike DeWine, but by the second paragraph I realize the scam. He vetoes it and it the legislature overrides his veto so happens anyway. Now Republicans get to look a little more moderate without actually accomplishing anything. I guarantee you Mike DeWine would not have vetoed this bill if it would actually have kept it from happening.

I remember when Democrats were totally in the majority in DC and we would be like four votes down on a bill, Republicans would announce Lisa Murkowski, and Mitt Romney and Susan Collins would be willing to vote for the Bill. Wow, how moderate of them!! But then if we picked up one more vote on our side, one of those republican senators would immediately drop out so then only two would be left to vote for the Bill when three were needed to pass. See the scam in action?

𝕺𝖓𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖉's avatar

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/05/murkowski-kavanaugh-vote-875021 "He's a good, good man, but I'm going to not vote against him so that someone who would vote for him can have compassionate leave." Virtue signaling her virtue signaling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cOJb4c8gw Approving the nomination of Betsy DeVille and then voting against her, when it would do no good to do so. Virtue signaling.

Wookiee Monster's avatar

It’s a sad state of affairs when listening to experts and the people affected by the legislation is enough to earn a republican a cookie.

Boojum's avatar

Yes, but we should reward them for even the smallest achievements.

Emil Muz's avatar

I'd like to object to the assertion that DeWine occasionally thinks for himself, upon the lack of facts in evidence.

He's not going to get a pat on the head from me for doing the proper thing when his default setting is to do the shitty thing on every other issue.

Micky9finger's avatar

What kind of republican is this govrnor of Ohio?

He actually talked to doctors and trans youth and their parents.

Amazing. Somewhat heartening.

Bagels of Doom's avatar

I also can't help but notice that "better than the crazy people over there" is a very very low bar

Peter MacMonagle's avatar

This is a medical issue. If State Legislatures want to control our bodies the are out of their assigned duties.

Bagels of Doom's avatar

"Enact Ohio Saving Adolescents from Experimentation (SAFE)"

I have a visceral gag response to bills that are shoehorned into an acronym or have a name attached.

Aardvark's avatar

Ohio Some Assholes are Fucking Egregious?

Old Man Yells at Cloud's avatar

Experts?!?! Pshaw, what do they know about a subject?

Land Shark 🇺🇦 🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

IK,R? If you can't trust a hypocritical christofascist who CAN you trust?

fair_n_hite_451's avatar

Speaker Mike Johnson has entered the chat

(((What Fresh Hell Is This)))'s avatar

Re: Ohio

Her story fueled anti-trans bills. Now, she’s fighting them.

Carey Callahan was once a prominent critic of gender-affirming care for minors. Then she began to worry her words were leading to outcomes she didn’t support.

Washington Post gift link: https://wapo.st/41HEQuR

Up Here in the Clouds's avatar

This is a better more nuanced story than the one WaPo ran a few weeks ago about the detransioned young women who has been testifying in favor of bans but does not understand why the LGBTQ community does not trust her, or welcome her, while the right accepts her but scares her with all their guns and religion.

Linda1961 is woke and proud's avatar

OT: Haley didn't jinx Clemson after all! The Tigers beat the WIldcats 38-35.

Lance Khrome's avatar

Take all the wins we can get...with all the MAGA lynch-mobs in Red states going after trans kiddies and their parents, DeWine did - for him - a standup act, and good on him.

Mighty Little Dog's avatar

My name is Ron Johnson

I come from Wisconsin

I engage in conspiracies der

Richard S's avatar

The people I meet

When I walk down the street

They say "What exactly do you do in Congress?"

I say, "My name is Ron Johnson....."

Allie's avatar

Ah, memories from childhood…

But to keep the rhyme scheme I would have gone with “They say “you were elected to represent us WHERE?