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Dr.BDH's avatar

All this is true but it doesn't include the Vietnam War, the point in my life when I realized that being correct, factually and morally, means nothing in America. I'll believe otherwise when we institute a War Resistors Day holiday and erect a statue of I.F. Stone on the National Mall.

Also, fuck Rick Wilson.

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marksb's avatar

Yeah these reformed Republicans dirtying up MSNBC's talking-heads panels make me laugh. Sure, they make some good points, but so would some folks not desperately trying to remove the stink of Trump-flavored Republicanism off themselves by pretending to suddenly honor the Constitution. We all know that once Trump is gone, most of these people will be back at their usual gig, subverting democracy, enabling financial crimes, and ensuring inequality.

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goCatgo's avatar

Bay of Pigs was Kennedy. Castro was already communist, and Russia was the Soviet Union, also Communist. If we were smart, we would have kept Cuba. Too many brown people I guess. Agree Ike could have done better with Vietnam.

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Copacidic's avatar

Funny, my brain read "Python" right into there.

Trump's ridiculous antics would have been funny and fit on a show like that 40+ years ago, innocently not knowing any of the reality of the past 40 years behind it.

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Copacidic's avatar

Assimilated into a new beast, that left the more intellectual and somewhat moderate republicans on an island that used to be the republican mainland.

But it's the left that's constantly drifting even further left...

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Dianna Deem's avatar

Many thanks for the reminder about Max Cleland. I’ll have to reply with this whenever this dickwad comes up in my Twitter feed

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Copacidic's avatar

This is why I'm glad Trump isn't handing out pardons like the hideous Pez dispenser he is with lies.

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Copacidic's avatar

Too may Dr. Frankensteins to mention, really.

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ExecutorElassus's avatar

hahaaaa, yeah I remember thinking when I was reading this horseshit, "maaan, fuck this guy anyhow." He's not trying to help save the Republic. He's trying to save the GOP. The same party that got us into this mess in the first place. He can eat a bag of dicks.

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ExecutorElassus's avatar

Read Nixonland. This whole shitshow is his enduring gift to America.

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TrumpLovedEpstein's avatar

nope, it was set-up before he took office, please read again then crack a history book

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goCatgo's avatar

Because Ike's CIA set up a plan, does not mean Kennedy had to carry it out. It was poorly executed as well. Kennedy could have made his own plan. Or no plan. All these things fall on Kennedy. Kennedy was a WW II hero and veteran. He understood war. If he was gonna do it, he should have done it right.

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aureolamanita's avatar

I believe 'We are a Liberal nation.' is meant to describe majority voter positions on the issues, rather than to say that the U.S. government is and has been a liberal institution.

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aureolamanita's avatar

Welp. Dig a little deeper and the 2nd Amendment appears, more than anything else, to be an explicit carve-out for the southern militias that hunted down runaway slaves and otherwise kept African-Americans in check.

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aureolamanita's avatar

I remember that. I was sitting in a newsroom with a few dozen other news professionals, watching that vote take place.

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aureolamanita's avatar

Can't a guy check in with his handlers?

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