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Mary Beth Brown's avatar

Some things are not worth sacrificing.

Wondering Woman's avatar

A friend who is a former journalist pointed out that it’s hard to cover Trump, because how many alternate words or phrases can you find for “batshit crazy” when we’ve heard it all before? After years of MAGAT lies and propaganda and outrageous and criminal behavior, we’ve run out of words. We’re not supposed to shame TFG’s followers, but hey, they CHOSE their path.

sjbeans's avatar

Thank you for your service.

Pixeloid's avatar

It might not matter anymore. It seems that Joe Biden is seriously considering dropping out because he might not be able to beat Trump. Media and Democrats are REALLY pushing that hard. Unfortunately, there is no way a successful, incumbent president can be replaced less than 4 months before an election and have any chance of beating Trump and the Nazis. That would be assuming the Democrats actually had a good candidate as a replacement, and they don't. Biden's chances aren't great, but he's the best we've got right now. If he's replaced, Trump wins.

Just confusion alone is enough to throw the election to the Nazis. Americans in general really don't pay attention to much of anything, especially not actual news or politics. On election day, we can expect a large percentage of them to get to the polls, and when they don't see Biden, have to make a snap decision. That will mean a lot of votes lost to a 3rd party or even a write in.

Barbara's avatar

There ARE good candidates, but they haven't been prepared to run. The dems should have had Team B in the wings, but no...

rawrtigerlily's avatar

Right.

I question both the wisdom and motivations of anyone hatching these schemes to reshuffle the ticket at the last minute. It seems more likely to cause harm than good to me.

And where were all these supposed genius insiders a year ago? What have they been busy doing instead of having this conversation a year ago when it actually might have been reasonable and feasible to make a smooth transition? Sounds to me like the big money machine is filled with people who are used to running the world by their whims and they got an urge. But down here in real world election land, there is still more to winning an election than just having mountains of money to spend… at least for the moment. :P

mondojohnson's avatar

Hearing my fellow Democrats gas on and on about this NON- ISSUE* was by far the most dominant and depressing news story of the past week... the week of the RNC Convention, for Christ's sake! We excel at this type of Sarandon-esque navel gazing, taking the wrong side in the war between "perfection" and "good" yet again. It's no wonder we're such easy targets for the loathing and mockery of the right: We've bought and amplified the Republican's ONE AND ONLY argument against Biden's reelection, and we parrot this stupid talking point with a grave sanctimony that is, indeed, laughable. The unfunny joke is on us.

*Again, this is a NON-ISSUE. We discussed the "age issue" ad infinitum in 2020, and resolved it by selecting a great VP candidate who is far more competent and qualified than either of the men at the top of the ticket. We don't have to worry about Biden's age BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAD A BACKUP PLAN.

In a perfect world, we'd be making the easy case for President Warren's reelection. But to paraphrase our once and future dictators, we go to war with the army we have. Let's snap out of it, people.

Jen's Taking Greenland's avatar

I feel your confusion and sadness and even anger over this. It was a con job, people fell for it.

But if we swing behind whomever the nominee then gets to be (it'll be harris, we already had a primary on this knowing she was on the ticket) then we can still beat the orange shitstain.

I do, however, think that Americans are going to know before November, especially the way the press has been beating this drum.

CripesAmighty's avatar

Um, however one feels about the issue writ large, Vice President Harris is out-polling.the presumptive nominee in head-to head matchups in swing states, has been performing brilliantly on the trail, and so long as the issue is resolved prior to state balloting deadlines, we can proceed apace.

Chino Cherokee's avatar

And, as I said yesterday, a debate between Harris and PAB would be wonderful to watch. She would kick his ass.

RRJKR's avatar

As long as he is forced to stay behind his podium and the mods actually try to control him.

Chino Cherokee's avatar

They clearly did NOT do that in the last debate.

Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Dom. Ta, Rebecca. Unfortunately my work computer (and its network) are Windoze based. I was never able to start it today, and MIS did not return my call. A few people, including my supervisor, had access. We had no clients with appointments today, so this afternoon one of the patient navigators and I made two home visits to clients who missed their last appointments. I got five services for one, and one for the other. I clocked out half an hour late, but beloved Meccalopolis was patient.

Barbara's avatar

The supreme court also crowned him king of america. We are doomed if he wins and he likely will. Plan accordingly.

eye8urcake's avatar

Shove the fatalist crap.

"M"'s avatar

"and he likely will" is the part people like AOC and me cannot really hear without the people saying it acknowledging that some of our lives are at stake with that outcome

https://youtu.be/mlzNvNFqtBE?si=LwGpSAUKb5zg1unr

So we don't get to sit down and shrug

CripesAmighty's avatar

I would only add that, *everyone* without the resources to escape the country is at risk. The capriciousness and speed at which totalitarian regimes can expand the inventory of 'enemies of the state' is limited only by one's imagination.

"M"'s avatar

No doubt

Only people like Rep Jasmine Crockett who are ALSO watching the STATE legislatures *like we all need to be doing* can tell us that Project 2025 has already started

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpOV2f2nu4c

DemoCat's avatar

I still believe (and I’m nervously aware that I may be wrong) that the huge 7 million + gap in voting hasn’t changed much in 4 years. Are huge swaths of Biden voters charmed by J6, his 4 federal indictments, 2 sexual assault civil verdicts, $500 million in judgments and a repeat of 2016-20? I’m just not sure where he makes up the 7 million votes. True, it’s not really about the total margin, it’s about winning battleground states, which he lost by a razor thin margin in 2020. Enthusiasm for Biden won’t be high in PA, where Trump was just shot, or AZ or NV. WI and MI will be close again. But it’s not yet certain Joe is the opponent. If Harris runs instead, she will have the advantage of relative youth, and a fresh start after 8 years of some pretty ugly politics. I tend to believe she has the better chance of building momentum in the fall. The animosity toward Trump is still massive, and if we have a vibrant, energized candidate, Trump should lose again.

"M"'s avatar

Have you seen this?

https://youtu.be/mlzNvNFqtBE?si=LwGpSAUKb5zg1unr

Also -- did you know National Archives says that

in 2016

approximately 60 million eligible voters voted for Donald

and

approximately 60 million eligible voters voted for Hillary

but

110 million people didn't vote???

RRJKR's avatar

they voted for Joe Biden

Will they vote for Harris or stay home?

RRJKR's avatar

"it can't happen here!! "" Yes, it can

RRJKR's avatar

Even if the the Biden replacement manages to squeak out a narrow win, the MAGA will fight and

scared to death Dems will back down and not certify the election.

fuflans's avatar

oh fuck off.

if we win, we will hold win. no way KH doesn't certify.

RRJKR's avatar

If we win getting to be too big an If

"M"'s avatar

Please maybe don't do any more opining until you've listened to what someone who is in the room where decisions are being made has to say

https://youtu.be/mlzNvNFqtBE?si=LwGpSAUKb5zg1unr

RRJKR's avatar

Enjoy your freedom while it lasts The MAGA Party will usher in nearly authoritarian rule.,

enon's avatar

not without a huge assist from the gutless democrats turning against biden.

RRJKR's avatar

They're as scared of Trump as the Republicans are.

"M"'s avatar

Literally all those people whom you describe are WHITE Democrats

You can draw your own conclusions from that

https://x.com/cbouzy/status/1814318532676522238?t=yIe9nxN0j9LyvQDMFLzq3w&s=19

Hank Napkin's avatar

Uh, Trump kissed Mr. Comperatore's helmet? Onstage? Live teevee, etc? I'm not a psychologist, but speaking as a psychologist, I must say this is rather telling

"M"'s avatar

People may be missing some facts about ol' Corey (the spelling of whose name I heard the Republicans got wrong ... but it would be just like them to try to create some plausible deniability)

https://twitter.com/ASOTJosh/status/1814367980332966208

And I don't see Baby Cat's opinion as an unpopular one, at least not among sane people

"My unpopular opinion: if you attend a Trump function, you will be exposed to lies, violence, and possibly death. Ashli Babbitt is an example. YOU KNEW IT WAS A SNAKE WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP. RIP Corey. You left your family in crisis for a man who doesn't even know your name."

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

And spelled his name wrong on the firefighter's coat they brought out.

Compertore. Typical.

Hank Napkin's avatar

Worse : They were going for “Contemptible”

Zen Gali's avatar

lol. self-hating closeted nazis. how cliche.

Sue Brown's avatar

Boy do I miss the glory days of moderate Republicans like Jesse Ventura and Terrible Ted Nugent! 🤪

SunMoonStars's avatar

Can we all say in unison BULLSHIT! They are going to do it in the dark. Dark money was invented by the right.

Several 'leading conservative partners' who contributed to Project 2025 now running from it

https://www.alternet.org/project-2025-partners-run/

gene108's avatar

“Somebody should ask Donald Trump the names of his grandchildren.”

I have been hoping someone would ask him this for the last 8 years.

Question Cat's avatar

Trump is the worst candidate of all time. A booger should be able to beat him.

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

But, he's got 23% of the population in thrall to him. What can we do against that?

gene108's avatar

Not if 45% of the people worship the booger as their savior.

Zen Gali's avatar

sure, why not? they see is visage in burnt toast and moldy walls, why not a booger?

William Donnell's avatar

"That was just bullshit, Joel. I didn't think you'd listen to me."

- RISKY BUSINESS

RRJKR's avatar

I thought it was "Lord High Emperor of the Galaxy"

John Norris's avatar

That's Emperor Ming of Mongo's title.