I recall reading a scientific paper that found mealworms provide an inexpensive source of easily raised protein, and they can be processed so that people won’t be put off by eating land-based invertebrates. Apparently, they’re fairly tasty and very flexible in cooking. As far as I know, they don’t taste like chicken.
Even so, the authors pretty much thought of them as emergency, supplemental foods in places struck by famine because the West would turn up its nose up at “eating worms.” Not if, however, there’s one at the bottom of the mescal bottle.
Dumb bastards! They’re not even worms! They’re beetle larvae! What is wrong with these people?
“So, this is really a vision of imposing restrictions on freedoms for everyday people while these elites are effectively pulling the strings, calling the shots, and doing whatever the hell they want to do in their own lives."
So he's worried about "the elites" imposing restrictions on everyday people being able to eat "naturally grown" meat, and his solution is to impose restrictions on everyday people being able to eat "lab grown" meat. Friends, I give you the party of personal freedom and small government.
dead santa could take a leaf from one or more of the supremes and get someone else to foot the bill for private flights . . . as a personal invitation, of course.
i mean, who doesn't get "personally" invited to fly to west bumfuck just when it's convenient for them?
Ta, Gary. DeathSentence strikes again. It takes feeding a cow about five kilos of grain to produce about half a kilo of steak, and cows shouldn't be eating so much grain anyway; yes, I know pastured beef is much more expensive. Of course this takes no notice of the toll taken on people responsible for killing and processing said cow.
I consider the increased expense of pastured beef an upside, not a downside. Pasture's often aren't usuable land, right? Cows graze in floodplains on the river side of the dikes, sheep graze on rocky uneven land (this includes dikes). There isn't infinite space for that, so an increase in price should motivate customers to buy less beef, so farmers more often choose to use good farmland for farming crops instead of only keeping cows. (They can rotate if that is their thing (though it usually isn't)). And if the increased efficiency of crop farming versus cattle farming means we use less land, then that's a win for nature and / or the construction of more housing which is also an issue.
I would very much rather eat lab grown meat. I realize it is not economically viable now but the decreased suffering and decreased risk of disease evolution/transmissions is wonderful even if the environmental costs are the same.
And maybe there is more potential for making it cleaner, in a way there is not for animals.
Just in case no one in this long comment string has mentioned it: if there were a Pulitzer Prize for headlines, this one should win! I know it's a little crude, but someone had to say it!
It's about the rush to the bottom to just produce the most amount of the cheapest beef. That is the real problem. If people ate better quality red meats and were ok with paying for a quality product you could reach a set point where agriculture wasn't cutting down the entire fucking Amazon to either graze cattle or grow soybeans to feed them.
And it is not like people are even eating the stuff. Like any other food red meat gets wasted just as much as carrots. Eat less or don't waste it and you save money too. Fucking Ronald fucking MacDonald has a lot to answer for. They pioneered the art of just chucking away perfectly ok food in order to maximise profits. All so Joe fucking ImpatientUSA can walk in and get a burger 3 seconds after asking for it.
Hope these fuckers don't go after meat substitute Quorn. Pretty nice taste and texture for fake meat. Essentially a fungus like athletes feet is fed heat, pressure, and nutrients and it becomes magically edible.
I was at a good factory that Quorn had asked to quote a production price. They didn't get the contract, but like most folks they did take a jab at me being a vegetarian. So if fungus like mushroom makes you feel better go for it. It is pretty good. Tastes like chicken.
Beer, wine, cheese, yoghurt, kombucha, kimchi, kefir, sauerkraut (original recipe, those that just add vinegar are cheating), vinegar (now that I think about it), fuet (and many other types of dried sausage) and anything called "aged". Basically if you need to leave it out longer than it takes to reach room temperature you're fermenting it.
Nobody beats meat like Meatball. Save the meat fetus!
Mealworms.
I recall reading a scientific paper that found mealworms provide an inexpensive source of easily raised protein, and they can be processed so that people won’t be put off by eating land-based invertebrates. Apparently, they’re fairly tasty and very flexible in cooking. As far as I know, they don’t taste like chicken.
Even so, the authors pretty much thought of them as emergency, supplemental foods in places struck by famine because the West would turn up its nose up at “eating worms.” Not if, however, there’s one at the bottom of the mescal bottle.
Dumb bastards! They’re not even worms! They’re beetle larvae! What is wrong with these people?
“So, this is really a vision of imposing restrictions on freedoms for everyday people while these elites are effectively pulling the strings, calling the shots, and doing whatever the hell they want to do in their own lives."
So he's worried about "the elites" imposing restrictions on everyday people being able to eat "naturally grown" meat, and his solution is to impose restrictions on everyday people being able to eat "lab grown" meat. Friends, I give you the party of personal freedom and small government.
dead santa could take a leaf from one or more of the supremes and get someone else to foot the bill for private flights . . . as a personal invitation, of course.
i mean, who doesn't get "personally" invited to fly to west bumfuck just when it's convenient for them?
Is DeathSantis taking a cut from the labs who are "growing" that "meat"?
As he chases out the migrants wgi were working in the packing plants with the real animal meat?
Is that what's been happening?
Ta, Gary. DeathSentence strikes again. It takes feeding a cow about five kilos of grain to produce about half a kilo of steak, and cows shouldn't be eating so much grain anyway; yes, I know pastured beef is much more expensive. Of course this takes no notice of the toll taken on people responsible for killing and processing said cow.
I consider the increased expense of pastured beef an upside, not a downside. Pasture's often aren't usuable land, right? Cows graze in floodplains on the river side of the dikes, sheep graze on rocky uneven land (this includes dikes). There isn't infinite space for that, so an increase in price should motivate customers to buy less beef, so farmers more often choose to use good farmland for farming crops instead of only keeping cows. (They can rotate if that is their thing (though it usually isn't)). And if the increased efficiency of crop farming versus cattle farming means we use less land, then that's a win for nature and / or the construction of more housing which is also an issue.
Nicely nuanced analysis. Many thanks, Gary!
How much SoylentGreen LLC, stock does Rhonda own???
Of note, I think, how many of us are asking similar questions
Kind of telling about exactly who he is and what he's into
Lab grown meat will become economically viable once we develop long-term space stations, and colonies on the Moon and on Mars.
I would very much rather eat lab grown meat. I realize it is not economically viable now but the decreased suffering and decreased risk of disease evolution/transmissions is wonderful even if the environmental costs are the same.
And maybe there is more potential for making it cleaner, in a way there is not for animals.
I would pay a major premium for lab-grown meat.
Just in case no one in this long comment string has mentioned it: if there were a Pulitzer Prize for headlines, this one should win! I know it's a little crude, but someone had to say it!
It's about the rush to the bottom to just produce the most amount of the cheapest beef. That is the real problem. If people ate better quality red meats and were ok with paying for a quality product you could reach a set point where agriculture wasn't cutting down the entire fucking Amazon to either graze cattle or grow soybeans to feed them.
And it is not like people are even eating the stuff. Like any other food red meat gets wasted just as much as carrots. Eat less or don't waste it and you save money too. Fucking Ronald fucking MacDonald has a lot to answer for. They pioneered the art of just chucking away perfectly ok food in order to maximise profits. All so Joe fucking ImpatientUSA can walk in and get a burger 3 seconds after asking for it.
Also plant-based diets are better for your health, but Lil D doesn’t give a cow fart about anybody’s health.
Hope these fuckers don't go after meat substitute Quorn. Pretty nice taste and texture for fake meat. Essentially a fungus like athletes feet is fed heat, pressure, and nutrients and it becomes magically edible.
I was at a good factory that Quorn had asked to quote a production price. They didn't get the contract, but like most folks they did take a jab at me being a vegetarian. So if fungus like mushroom makes you feel better go for it. It is pretty good. Tastes like chicken.
"Essentially a fungus like athletes feet is fed heat, pressure, and nutrients and it becomes magically edible."
I am sorry but that makes me not want to try it.
Fermentation makes a lot of foods better.
Beer, wine, cheese, yoghurt, kombucha, kimchi, kefir, sauerkraut (original recipe, those that just add vinegar are cheating), vinegar (now that I think about it), fuet (and many other types of dried sausage) and anything called "aged". Basically if you need to leave it out longer than it takes to reach room temperature you're fermenting it.
I am not arguing that I am being in any way rational.
On the facts your are absolutely correct.
otoh, ewwww.
Yeah......if Mart had just stuck with fungus, it woulda worked. Mushrooms are fungi and I love them.......
Simba: "Fuck off, Hammy! I'm sleeping here!!"
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is that lens distortion or a cat with a tremendously fat ass?
yes
When I was a hormone-driven teen-age boy, lab-produced pu$$y was not available. Eventually, I outgrew my need for both meat and pu$$y.