So, this guy lied to several employers to be able to collect multiple salaries at the same time, and we're supposed to feel bad for him? I don't think so.
Jim Hightower used to talk abut checking the "Flo chart"- meaning how was the waitress at the town diner (ie "Flo") doing economically. We need more people looking at charts like that. I do get (part) of what the tech dude says, I remember- in my own working life- when what my partner made (less than this guy) would have been big money. I remember what that income bought. What it buys us now, is the lifestyle of the appliance repairman who lived in this house before us: mortgage paid off on said modest house, some retirement, three kids with their Bachelor degrees and no debt, and able to pay fr the most needed repairs/upkeep. Period. Financial insecurity, it's a feature, not a bug, as you said.
"I can only feel my riches lapping at my feet, I'm not able to take a dive in it and swim around." FFS, how many besides myself would not be complaining in the least to have this fuckstix' income? The poor poor dear! "Heavens, Lovey! We can only go to the Galapagos and St. Moritz this year since we bought another Jag!" If you spend more on your "entertainments" than the average joe and jane make in a year then it's appropriate for you to shut the fuck up and at least act grateful publicly. How hard do you have to work until you feel secure? Measured against this drone I don't stand a chance.
The $300 000 guy, right? I would consider myself rich with a third of what he's making. That's "I can afford a house" money, almost nobody makes that anymore.
If my late grandmother, who survived the Depression, were still here, she'd tell this whiny little twit that anyone with a WASHING MACHINE is rich. Washboards didn't start out as musical instruments, you know...
They must not each about the Depression in school anymore, seeing as how far too many people see stocks (and crypto, but that's another discussion for another time) as safe investments...
I was married to a guy who made about what “Robert” makes, but he was a shitty money manager, and we literally ended each month with four or five days of nothing in the bank til the first. I am now divorced, and my income is about 1/5th of what he made, and I am far more financially secure. I don’t feel “rich” but I feel secure. (I did move to a place with a lower cost of living) My ex still ends every month pinching pennies; not sure how that happens.
The whole concept of having any money left over for things like travel is utterly foreign to me. My wife and I both work and I have worked two jobs for 20 years now and our account still goes into the negative on a fairly regular basis. Nothing like having your card declined when you’re trying to buy a single McMuffin to tell you that you’re a broke ass loser. But yeah, this guy who went to the Galápagos Islands but still doesn’t feel rich. I’m sure that’s rough in its own way.
For anyone like "Robert" who just doesn't feel rich enough, I propose we set up a network of intentional communities in the countryside, perhaps dedicated towards a collective agricultural enterprise of some sort, where they can go to get some perspective on the nature of wealth. After all, few things are as satisfying as productive labor in the outdoors.
Another argument for a maximum wage. If these guys can't be satisfied with what they have, then they will steal from the rest of us until we put a stop to it.
"Now, look — I get never feeling fully secure. I do! In the United States, this is a feature, not a bug. Many of our policies, labor and otherwise, are specifically designed so that people never feel fully secure, because the people in charge believe that this is the best way to ensure that people are both productive and willing to put up with a lot of shit."
And this, in a nutshell, is what the real problem is. Precarity as a tool to make everyone that little bit more desperate and "willing" to take more abuse and exploitation.
the thing is 'feeling rich' is so comparative - i feel rich, cos i can afford to pay my bills and have a bit of fun, but others might say that is 'poor' and being rich is solid gold doorknobs in your house or something stupid - rich is subjective - if i was earning that amount of money i would feel really rich
So, this guy lied to several employers to be able to collect multiple salaries at the same time, and we're supposed to feel bad for him? I don't think so.
Jim Hightower used to talk abut checking the "Flo chart"- meaning how was the waitress at the town diner (ie "Flo") doing economically. We need more people looking at charts like that. I do get (part) of what the tech dude says, I remember- in my own working life- when what my partner made (less than this guy) would have been big money. I remember what that income bought. What it buys us now, is the lifestyle of the appliance repairman who lived in this house before us: mortgage paid off on said modest house, some retirement, three kids with their Bachelor degrees and no debt, and able to pay fr the most needed repairs/upkeep. Period. Financial insecurity, it's a feature, not a bug, as you said.
"I can only feel my riches lapping at my feet, I'm not able to take a dive in it and swim around." FFS, how many besides myself would not be complaining in the least to have this fuckstix' income? The poor poor dear! "Heavens, Lovey! We can only go to the Galapagos and St. Moritz this year since we bought another Jag!" If you spend more on your "entertainments" than the average joe and jane make in a year then it's appropriate for you to shut the fuck up and at least act grateful publicly. How hard do you have to work until you feel secure? Measured against this drone I don't stand a chance.
The $300 000 guy, right? I would consider myself rich with a third of what he's making. That's "I can afford a house" money, almost nobody makes that anymore.
Ta, Robyn. We can do better. Maybe someday we shall.
It’s like Giuliani - limited to (what?) $43,000 a month, manages to spend $100K in January?
If my late grandmother, who survived the Depression, were still here, she'd tell this whiny little twit that anyone with a WASHING MACHINE is rich. Washboards didn't start out as musical instruments, you know...
I believe I’m gonna like your grandma, assuming she and I have a chance to meet someday. Which I recognize is a stretch.
They must not each about the Depression in school anymore, seeing as how far too many people see stocks (and crypto, but that's another discussion for another time) as safe investments...
Seeing that she's late, yeah.
I was married to a guy who made about what “Robert” makes, but he was a shitty money manager, and we literally ended each month with four or five days of nothing in the bank til the first. I am now divorced, and my income is about 1/5th of what he made, and I am far more financially secure. I don’t feel “rich” but I feel secure. (I did move to a place with a lower cost of living) My ex still ends every month pinching pennies; not sure how that happens.
"not sure how that happens." Too much spending.
He likely tells everyone that it’s your fault.
The whole concept of having any money left over for things like travel is utterly foreign to me. My wife and I both work and I have worked two jobs for 20 years now and our account still goes into the negative on a fairly regular basis. Nothing like having your card declined when you’re trying to buy a single McMuffin to tell you that you’re a broke ass loser. But yeah, this guy who went to the Galápagos Islands but still doesn’t feel rich. I’m sure that’s rough in its own way.
For anyone like "Robert" who just doesn't feel rich enough, I propose we set up a network of intentional communities in the countryside, perhaps dedicated towards a collective agricultural enterprise of some sort, where they can go to get some perspective on the nature of wealth. After all, few things are as satisfying as productive labor in the outdoors.
You'll work harder with a gun in your back for a bowl of rice a day
I mean, I was thinking of something more like the WPA, but some people may require more encouragement than others.
The beatings will continue until morale improves
Another argument for a maximum wage. If these guys can't be satisfied with what they have, then they will steal from the rest of us until we put a stop to it.
This. Enough will never be enough for these people.
"Now, look — I get never feeling fully secure. I do! In the United States, this is a feature, not a bug. Many of our policies, labor and otherwise, are specifically designed so that people never feel fully secure, because the people in charge believe that this is the best way to ensure that people are both productive and willing to put up with a lot of shit."
And this, in a nutshell, is what the real problem is. Precarity as a tool to make everyone that little bit more desperate and "willing" to take more abuse and exploitation.
Zimbabwe made everyone a triliionaire! And even arranged so you could carry those trillions in your wallet! It must have been a paradise!
lol!
I always wonder where they even find these people? How does the process work? They just cold call people making 300k?
I'm sure they are friends of friends...
First rule of Wealth Club. You don't talk about being in Wealth Club.
the thing is 'feeling rich' is so comparative - i feel rich, cos i can afford to pay my bills and have a bit of fun, but others might say that is 'poor' and being rich is solid gold doorknobs in your house or something stupid - rich is subjective - if i was earning that amount of money i would feel really rich
I'd say rich is getting to live in the same home for more than three years. I'm sick of moving from temporary situation to temporary situation.
The old rich couple on Gilligan's Island look a lot less old than they did when I was watching the show 50 years ago.
Boy, isn't that the truth! Yikes!
About that picture of the Howells up at the top. How many clothes and parasols did she bring on that 3 hour tour?
About the same as would my wife. She refers to her steamer trunk as a “carry on”.