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A lot of wind.

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Yeah, definitely not all classrooms had them because I didn't have a single one in 4 years and close to 40 classes taken. But I also only wound up as far east as Akers/Conrad for theater and to visit friends in Lyman Briggs. I feel like that's a newer part of campus where maybe they were experimenting?

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My brother used to work in Cambodia; he described it as "the entire population has PTSD".

America's getting there.

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We have a neice at MSU. My wife was frantic when she heard about the shooting until finally hearing that our niece was OK. The Second Amendment has become a suicide pact. It has to go!

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I understand. I have spent many years talking with law enforcement on campus to try to figure out how to make our facilities safer in case something like this happened. Their hands are tied. They made it very clear to me that they could not influence decisions at the university level and just work within whatever policies are in place.

Hopefully, Whitmer will be able to something now that Democrats control both chambers but that is iffy. People in MI do love their weapons. We will see.

Those of us that have to deal with this every day just have to figure out how to make it through the semester without getting killed by a crazy person and that is where his suggestions would be a big help.

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It was 15 years ago February 8 (2008), that Northern Illinois University had its mass shooter, less than a year after the VA Tech massacre in April, 2007. As a hied administrator, my heart breaks for our young who are dead, maimed, and traumatized forever by these killings. And the GOP, NRA, etc., will never be held sufficiently accountable for their role in the losses this generation has experienced.

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Security has changed a lot over the last decade. There are ways to stop the holding door thing. Companies do it all the time. It just takes the will and some money and the determination that saving students lives is a worthy goal.

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TAKE THE FUCKING GUNS FIRST.

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The Onion has to update its front page again, or they probably already got tired of doing so a while back.

As for all this, it's basically just another day in America, just another schools shooting. They happen and keep happening because the system is designed to allow them to do so, and with great frequency.

The blood sacrifice to the Gun Gods and the cash sacrifice to the NRA must not stop, ever.

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Most folks quoting the 2 Amendment don't know it. It begins: 'A well regulated militia...' It is completely concerned with militias, and not with personal rights. The Founders did not want a standing army, but how would the colonies defend themselves from native tribes and possibly the British?

It is common ground amongst historians that the Founders would be unhappy with the results. For one thing, they thought they were abolishing political parties ! George Washington refused to run again for President because he deplored political factions.

They would be horrified at the bizarre results of the misinterpretation of their work.

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cue all the disingenuous gun humpers arguing that we won't accept their point of view and give them a fair hearing...

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Exactaumde. All the gun-humpers say "Look at Chicago, they've got gun control and they have all those murders, HEEENNNGH?" without pointing out that the said Chicagoans can drive 20 mile over into Indiana and purchase a fucking arsenal with no more than an expired Boys 2 Men Fan Club card as ID.

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And if we ban guns, people will just murder students with rental trucks, or some horseshit.

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Here's the motive: An unhinged asshole had easy access to a gun.

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Remember when Marge Green harassed David Hogg on the street?

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“He kept lying to me about it and told me he got rid of it.” Oh, then you're off the hook, dad. I mean, as the father, why would you take it from him, or call the cops.

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