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boo radley's avatar

My mom tells me frequently that she doesn't want Trump to die. She'd rather see him in a psych ward for people with delusions of grandeur: "No, I really AM the President!" "You and everyone else in here, buddy."

Me, I'm not so nice. I'd prefer to see him go to jail briefly, be stripped of all his wealth and every last bit of property, then I'd like to see his US citizenship taken and him deported to Russia, where he would have to live like a poor aged immigrant who can't say two words in the language.

Dying is too good for these putzes. Justice isn't though.

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jltympanum's avatar

“doing politics the right way”? Sophistry is not “doing politics the right way”.

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littlerice vice's avatar

I regularly come to these not allowed comments to find some well thought out depth. In my addled old age I find community helpful. Don't let these bastards get us down!

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

Kirk was a Nazi - I grew up on war movies where the Nazi's were the bad guys. That has not changed one iota.

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Goonemeritus's avatar

When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence".

Weird I'm told Hitler was quite the chatty Cathy".

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Lois B's avatar

Absolutely NO “empathy or sympathy” for Charlie Kirk. NONE!

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You Should Ice That Burn's avatar

The hagiography of Kirk is something to watch. This is a guy that was very vocal in his defense of racism and disenfranchisement towards minorities and women. The right wants to lionize him and hold him up as a model citizen. I'm not celebrating his death, I'm mourning the national drift towards unspeakable mayhem in the service of dangerous men.

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littlerice vice's avatar

I don't LIONIZE HIM I want to feed him to the lions.

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𝔅𝔢𝔢𝔩𝔷𝔢𝔟𝔲𝔟𝔟𝔞's avatar

Most ironic Kirkism:

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

He had in mind *other* people's deaths, of course.

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Cleora's avatar

🤬💩 GOP jackasses have now called for Charlie Kirk's body to lie in state at the US Capitol! Well, who didn't see that coming?! 🤬💩 These idiots don't ever understand that if every crank they like is given sainthood, nothing is left for their bigger "heroes." When Trump dies, they'll have to put his body on a Space X rocket and shoot him to heaven! "God" knows he'll never get there on his own!! 🤣🤣

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biff murphy's avatar

I stopped watching Cox when he got to the saintly doings of young Charlie...

Such bullshit. We talk about this asshole when we also just had another school shooting and this weasel is promoting guns and the second fucking amendment.

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Kirsty Gnome-Poledance Himmler's avatar

Flag down the street from me at half mast.

But who knows, could be for anybody.

I forgive them.

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Jim's avatar

Everyone who thinks this country is better off without him say amen.

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

Amen!

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Asphalt-Type Person's avatar

Better to say rAmen. Xtiainese sets us ex-Christians off something fierce, because we've been on the inside and know what the code words actually mean.

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Tiffany in Houston's avatar

Just imagine how these ghouls would have reacted if Hillary Clinton had been assassinated in a manner similar to Charlie Kirk. Sure, you can disagree with her political positions or even believe she's corrupt (I don't believe that for what it's worth) but the fact remains that she's served our country with distinction in a variety of roles and she's inspired women and girls to chase their dreams, whatever they may be.

I guarantee you if this had happened these same people fellating Charlie Kirk's corpse would be dancing in the street and shooting off fireworks as well as their precious guns.

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DemoCat's avatar

Gary, it’s “too soon” to discuss sensible gun policy reform after a shooting, and “too soon” to discuss any unflattering or toxic comments Kirk made in his life. Many in the media are being very cautious, especially with this administration, with how they describe Kirk’s role as conservative media provocateur. I certainly agree that violence isn’t the answer at all and will only make things much, much worse. Kirk wasn’t the only highly visible conservative/MAGA voice. Ben Shapiro, Nick Fuentes, etc, etc. There will be more, and many will look to Kirk and his speedy rise to the top of the muckraker mountain as inspiration, as podcasts and “influencers” become a dime a dozen. But this very likely wasn’t a paid assassination by a political group, organization or other “They.” It certainly wasn’t the fault of “democrats” despite what nearly every breathless Republican politician insisted before the shooter was even identified, with Nancy Mace declaring “democrats own this.” Much like Mike Lee did when he blamed “Marxists” for the murders of democrats by a conservative in June, they were shamelessly prepared to foment rage regardless of facts. Now it looks like this is another shooter with conservative family roots, with radicalized, warped and extreme views. But no matter what his views, or which side he more aligned with, this was a singular act by a single person. No group of people, and certainly no entire political party, should be vilified and blamed for the actions of a single person acting alone. (Except of course, Trump, whose actions and harm is the direct result of his party, and their endless, blind tolerance and ignorance of his actions and words).

The problem is that our entire country is becoming destabilized. Politicians are using scorched-Earth rhetoric to inflame and enrage people, calling the other side “evil” and dehumanizing them. Politicians no longer temper or measure their rhetoric or even argue persuasively with facts. Jargon is full of misinformation now, and no one knows who to trust. Officials don’t argue that opposing candidates will employ ineffective or unpopular policy, instead nothing short of “destroying our country” will do. Every vote, every donation and decision is life or death.

The path to change needs to start with voters demanding elected officials be qualified, honest and civil. The violent, hateful rhetoric so common today by Trump, Nancy Mace and those like them isn’t likely to change, except perhaps to somehow get worse. We need to elect people who refuse to engage in lies and insults, and who have real, serious, responsible and realistic policy, not merely invoking fear and rage.

Maybe my idea is a pipe dream at this point. Maybe cooling the temperature and insisting on returning respect and civility to our leadership isn’t possible. But it’s hard to see how things can simply go further in the same direction. Trump and the gop want to declare martial law, suspend elections and all immigration, and declare liberalism a threat to the State. I’m not sure we have any Constitutional protection from that.

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Jake Carney's avatar

He’s in the Vedic Valhalla now, smelling the curry farts of Saffron pillow butts.

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