Tuesday was the last chance for bigots to explain to the Supreme Court why it is constitutional to deny equal rights to gay people because you think they have icky sex. The Court had two questions to consider: First, is it okay for states to prohibit gays from doing marriage together because "tradition" and "ewww gross" and "states' rights" and "some people don't like it" and "WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!"? Second, is it okay for states that prohibit marriage equality to tell already gay-married gay couples from other states that their marriages do not count, because this here is Kentucky (for example) damnit, and we do not like you liberal state gay types, for America? And freedom?
Western marriage, despite the modern conception and usage, was actually quite impersonal at its roots as relates the people getting married...it was a transactional relationship which, in essence, transferred ownership/rights to a woman from the father to the groom. It had very little to do with the relationship between the people being married, or often with their feelings on the matter of being married (to this particular person, or in general).
I agree that the theoretical best solution in this case is not to further entrench the .gov in marriage, and that ideally we'd see the institution become purely social/religious in nature, but we must acknowledge how marriage started to understand where we are. Given the baggage that comes with the institution, ineheritence, etc., we might best hope the .gov gives legal civil union to all who ask, and leaves off the question of "marriage" to individuals and the communities they choose to belong to.
I think a World of Warcraft addiction would have a much better chance of ruining my marriage than any pride parade/gay orgy would, short of a parade float running one of us over.
Pretty OT, but it reminds me of the deal against women serving combat roles in the military; anybody who screeches "you can't do that! This is how it's always been!" are generally people who haven't been paying attention.
The "legal fiction" that a corporation is a person was invented so that corporations would be held liable for their debts - and for no other reason. That's why Hobby Lobby is such complete insanity.
Hey, you're welcome to convince married couples (straight and gay) around the country of the wisdom of giving up almost 1,000 benefits reserved for married couples.
Knock yourself out. You're going to hear GET OFF MY PORCH a lot; that will give you at least one common experience with Jehovah Witness missionaries.
Lassie will explain it all to him.
Western marriage, despite the modern conception and usage, was actually quite impersonal at its roots as relates the people getting married...it was a transactional relationship which, in essence, transferred ownership/rights to a woman from the father to the groom. It had very little to do with the relationship between the people being married, or often with their feelings on the matter of being married (to this particular person, or in general).
I agree that the theoretical best solution in this case is not to further entrench the .gov in marriage, and that ideally we'd see the institution become purely social/religious in nature, but we must acknowledge how marriage started to understand where we are. Given the baggage that comes with the institution, ineheritence, etc., we might best hope the .gov gives legal civil union to all who ask, and leaves off the question of "marriage" to individuals and the communities they choose to belong to.
I think a World of Warcraft addiction would have a much better chance of ruining my marriage than any pride parade/gay orgy would, short of a parade float running one of us over.
Pretty OT, but it reminds me of the deal against women serving combat roles in the military; anybody who screeches "you can't do that! This is how it's always been!" are generally people who haven't been paying attention.
Oh, well this is a dark day in American history. Next thing you know there'll be some guy trying to marry his assault rifle.
Get in line, you're wife #23,435,923,666.
Yeah, speaking as a straight white male, I have to admit I find Scalia... No. I can't do it. Carry on.
Or a Chevrolet bull.
"Eventually", in the course of eternity, is a slippery concept."Yo, I've been stuck in here for 50 billion years!""So? You'll get out eventually."
This is where Libertarians FAIL, because they don't get that the restrictions on their autonomy are due to violations of the autonomy of others.
Back at ya, I was snarking (is that even a word?) too.
The "legal fiction" that a corporation is a person was invented so that corporations would be held liable for their debts - and for no other reason. That's why Hobby Lobby is such complete insanity.
Sorry, Michigan and Alabama, but "Eeeew!" is not a compelling state interest.
Who would hire you talking like a drunk 14 year old sailor?
Hey, you're welcome to convince married couples (straight and gay) around the country of the wisdom of giving up almost 1,000 benefits reserved for married couples.
Knock yourself out. You're going to hear GET OFF MY PORCH a lot; that will give you at least one common experience with Jehovah Witness missionaries.
Khaleesi Joy Gray?