Supreme Court To Decide If 14th Amendment Says What It Says
Well, yes, it does say what it says, if you want to be picky. But, hey, English has roots in German, French, Latin and many other languages. So, translation problems? Not to mention idioms, typos and funny alphabets people used. Lotta gray area there. /s
Toddler Trump stomped out of the SC after 14 minutes. Then called them stupid when he appointed like half of them.
Speaking of the SC, see the segment of Monday's Colbert to hear John Mulaney tell a funny story about his one SC attendance to Stephen (and David Byrne!).
Ta, Gary. My mother was born in Manhattan. My father was born in Brooklyn (like all their children, including me). My grandparents were born in Austria and Belarus. I married into a family that's been here since before the revolution (on beloved husband's mother's side). Birthright citizenship is real, historically and at present. This maladministration tries to rule by tantrum. Give the babby his binky and blankey, but not his way.
It's just crazy that this is even being considered. There's a legitimate chance the SC will rule the Constitution unconstitutional. We live in a bad surrealist satire film.
They are really opening Pandora's box with this one. Let's take Christopher Walken as an example. He was born on March 31, 1943 as a child of two immigrant parents. I don't know if the parents later became citizens, but at the time of his birth, they were not.
So according to the logic of DJT's argument (LMAO) would Christopher Walken be a stateless person? If so, would he to have to re-file his income taxes as a non-resident alien instead of a citizen (as just an example). As usual, they're nuts.
This shouldn’t even be an argument. I am a US citizen. My husband is Australian. I gave birth in the US. The Australian government has an entire list of paperwork that must be submitted for Mapes Jr to be recognized as an Australian. Even with dual citizenship and passports from both countries, US citizens are required to travel using their US passport. This decision isn’t just going to impact domestic law. It does seem like Alito and Thomas are the only ones in favor right now.
A terribly cringey, cheap & cheesy game show, no less. Plus, with ads of horrifying racist cruelty, especially designed to appeal to the worst in human nature.
By definition, Donald Trump is an "Anchor baby". Without "jus Soli". he is not a citizen, nor qualified to occupy the OVal Office. If Jus Soli is overturned, I would expect his immediate resignation!
If the Supremes redrafted for greater clarity the 14th Amendment so that it meant what it has meant to everybody except ex-CSA rebs & reactionary MAGA kooks since 1868 - and especially since Wong Kim Ark (1896) - how would it be different?
The primary impetus for the Civil War was not the emancipation of enslaved Africans in the South Slavery was merely the "hot button" issue. Nor was there any intent to establish "Racial Equality". In the mid 19th century, the idea that Blacks were inferior to Whites was overwhelmingly accepted, even by abolitionists The underlying argument was federalism vs anti-federalism. Were the individual States more like separate nations bound together by "treaties", or "one Nation" "States Rights" is a term totally inadequate to define the quandary. The argument had raged since the end ot the Revolutionary War, and To believe otherwise, is a gross misunderstanding of the situation
Jus Soli, or "Birthright Citizenship" is a concept that "America" was founded upon. Without it, we would have remained British Citizens. The notion of abandoning it is totally preposterous!
"How this “FOR PAY” part comports with Trump’s literally selling visas is beyond us. But then, so is everything else about this presidency."
It's because he doesn't care that some people are paying to live here/become citizens, he cares that the money is going to someone other than him.
Supreme Court To Decide If 14th Amendment Says What It Says
Well, yes, it does say what it says, if you want to be picky. But, hey, English has roots in German, French, Latin and many other languages. So, translation problems? Not to mention idioms, typos and funny alphabets people used. Lotta gray area there. /s
"How this “FOR PAY” part comports with Trump’s literally selling visas is beyond us. But then, so is everything else about this presidency."
It makes perfect sense. What aggrieves Trump most is that he is not getting a cut for each of those new citizens.
Toddler Trump stomped out of the SC after 14 minutes. Then called them stupid when he appointed like half of them.
Speaking of the SC, see the segment of Monday's Colbert to hear John Mulaney tell a funny story about his one SC attendance to Stephen (and David Byrne!).
Ta, Gary. My mother was born in Manhattan. My father was born in Brooklyn (like all their children, including me). My grandparents were born in Austria and Belarus. I married into a family that's been here since before the revolution (on beloved husband's mother's side). Birthright citizenship is real, historically and at present. This maladministration tries to rule by tantrum. Give the babby his binky and blankey, but not his way.
If this passes, any Dem should run on deporting all the trump spawn.
It's just crazy that this is even being considered. There's a legitimate chance the SC will rule the Constitution unconstitutional. We live in a bad surrealist satire film.
YOU ALL HEARD THE SKID
"...Quinta Jurecic argued in a new essay for The Atlantic that Trump's appearance (before the Supreme Court) will leave a "black mark" on America."
They are really opening Pandora's box with this one. Let's take Christopher Walken as an example. He was born on March 31, 1943 as a child of two immigrant parents. I don't know if the parents later became citizens, but at the time of his birth, they were not.
So according to the logic of DJT's argument (LMAO) would Christopher Walken be a stateless person? If so, would he to have to re-file his income taxes as a non-resident alien instead of a citizen (as just an example). As usual, they're nuts.
Wong Kim Ark =>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark
This shouldn’t even be an argument. I am a US citizen. My husband is Australian. I gave birth in the US. The Australian government has an entire list of paperwork that must be submitted for Mapes Jr to be recognized as an Australian. Even with dual citizenship and passports from both countries, US citizens are required to travel using their US passport. This decision isn’t just going to impact domestic law. It does seem like Alito and Thomas are the only ones in favor right now.
Why would any of Friedrich and Elizabeth's progeny be citizens? Where's the paper trail of their alleged naturalization?
Trump is succeeding in destroying Western Civilization where many have failed!!
Elect a game show host, get a game show
A terribly cringey, cheap & cheesy game show, no less. Plus, with ads of horrifying racist cruelty, especially designed to appeal to the worst in human nature.
Same as with a clown and a circus.
By definition, Donald Trump is an "Anchor baby". Without "jus Soli". he is not a citizen, nor qualified to occupy the OVal Office. If Jus Soli is overturned, I would expect his immediate resignation!
If the Supremes redrafted for greater clarity the 14th Amendment so that it meant what it has meant to everybody except ex-CSA rebs & reactionary MAGA kooks since 1868 - and especially since Wong Kim Ark (1896) - how would it be different?
The primary impetus for the Civil War was not the emancipation of enslaved Africans in the South Slavery was merely the "hot button" issue. Nor was there any intent to establish "Racial Equality". In the mid 19th century, the idea that Blacks were inferior to Whites was overwhelmingly accepted, even by abolitionists The underlying argument was federalism vs anti-federalism. Were the individual States more like separate nations bound together by "treaties", or "one Nation" "States Rights" is a term totally inadequate to define the quandary. The argument had raged since the end ot the Revolutionary War, and To believe otherwise, is a gross misunderstanding of the situation
Jus Soli, or "Birthright Citizenship" is a concept that "America" was founded upon. Without it, we would have remained British Citizens. The notion of abandoning it is totally preposterous!