There was a mall department store that had a ladies' lounge. I'd go hang out there, when my friends were you're shopping, because I'm an AA or an AAA, and there was only only local store that sold them, pre internet shopping. I would love if this was more common. Have a not in a public restroom area, with comfy seating, to breastfeed and change diapers, or calm a toddler fit.
Regarding women’s bathroom lounges, I think the societal segregation of spaces is a major component, but just practically speaking, it used to be a full time job just being a woman in public. Clothing was severely restrictive, including restrictive of your breathing, etiquette rules were harsh, and you even had your food intake restricted. Living in those conditions in any sort of hot weather, especially indoors without air-conditioning, was a nightmare. Fainting couches existed for a reason. You didn’t have any lightweight materials to make basic products like baby bottles, so you were carrying extra weight in addition to your garments if you wanted to travel into public with a baby. Men being abusive to women in public wasn’t nearly as frowned upon back then, but women walking around visually upset with their makeup was. A place to quietly go compose yourself and get your mask back on was a practical need, in order to maintain all those social constructs and expectations.
My hubby asked me recently why women go to the bathroom in groups, assuming it was because we want to talk shit about men. Lol! Yes, we definitely do that too. But it’s not the only reason. Sometimes it’s just more practical when you’re with a group of people, and you don’t want to waste time waiting on individual bathroom breaks. Sometimes it’s because you might have products in only one person’s purse but others need them. Sometimes it’s to give the men a moment to talk shit. And, sometimes it just feels safer. Of course, leaving your drink unattended at the table is also a risk. Society has women disadvantaged in most aspects. And we are conditioned to automatically consider everyone else’s needs before our own. And then there’s the competition element. That other woman might be going to freshen up her makeup and where does that leave you? Looking frumpy at the table, and ignored when she returns. Yes, it’s just that petty and many are unaware they are thinking it.
It’s ironic though, because nowadays it seems men are the ones who want a lounge area when shopping. They put massage chairs outside stores and vending machines. You get to pay to lounge while your partner shops.
Nothing has separated the thoughtful left and the kneejerk tankies as neatly as Ukraine. The dissolution of twitter means that maybe I'll never see a "pacifist" defending Slobodan Milošević ever again
Remember, the current owner of Twitter also owns half the satellites in the air and needs to be cajoled and convinced by heads of state not to cut off access.
Regarding the TFG indictments...last night I foolishly allowed myself to run out of wine. Was it Randy Quaid in Independence Day who said "I picked a hell of a day to quit drinking."?
It's interesting in the article about women's lounges that they were heavily race segregated, because when I was a child in the 60s, in highly segregated Philadelphia, the women's lounge at department stores was about the only place I ever encountered Black women in a non hierarchical setting, where they were just another shopper and not someone there to serve or take care of white people.
Per the Jonathan Haidt article, I'd like to point out that free unstructured play died out in part because we redesigned our physical environments to be entirely based on the car. Not only do kids have no autonomy and lead isolated lives until they're old enough to drive (and have a car of their own) but the entire area has been stripped of what urban planners call "third places," i.e. public places to hang out that aren't home or work.
The street's too dangerous because of the car and there's often nowhere to go anyway that doesn't cost money, or rendered hostile so as to ward off "undesirables," which usually explicitly means youths in the first place. We atomized society when we developed the suburbs.
Absolutely- I grew up in the 19*mumbles* and in an urban environment (although I spent my summers in an extremely rural environment) and my friends and I had plenty of time for unstructured outdoor play. We used to be sent out to play after dinner, and told to come home when the streetlights came on.
That was of the main reasons we stayed in the city after having Son of Prickly. He's been riding public transit since he was a wee thing and now that he's a teen he can go out with his friends without needing a car (though a few of them can drive.)
I grew up in the city and the thing I always like to say is, "how early can a child read and understand a map? As soon as they have to." I was riding the bus alone as a tiny tyke. Folks be calling me "shorty with the jheri curl."
I am a proud owner of Wonkette US America Game Of Elections: The Game!
Mind you, I have never played it, not withstanding the excellent instructions from our babby overlord and her ailing (at the time) papa. I have pulled all the pieces out of the box (goodbye excellent antique roadshow future value), looked at every card, admired it more than a few times. I think the election cycle was too stressful to play it at the time, and too painful after the 2016 election itself.
But dammit, I've got my game, and I'll keep it till I'm old old old!
(and on that note, let me say searching for old articles on the new platform WORKS, and I think it is faster and works better than on the old platform. Thanks, Trix and The Gang!)
at my father in laws funeral the womens bathroom had a lounge and my kids and their cousins were in there constantly, and I would have to stand outside the door and tell them not to goof around in there. children are like feral cats
So, a big glob of uncooked ground beef, with onions stuck in it? I hope German slaughterhouses and meat processors are a bit more persnickety about cleanliness that the ones here in the Middle America.
Looks like "Notes" have had a small change. You can only view them at a "Home" setting(they pick what you see is my best guess) or "Subscribed"(people you have subscribed to), you used to be able to also do "Subscribers"(people subscribed to you) but that has disappeared. I liked the one they took away, so poop. Now if they could just take the extra step of letting you view them new to old, like how most people would prefer.
Looks like they are going to change it so that you can just follow someone's Notes without subscribing which I think could work well. I liked using subscribers because I have more of those and I've found "home" to be the most useless.
This made my day a little brighter:
https://boingboing.net/2023/08/02/boston-cop-has-one-helluva-horrible-ride-down-a-playground-slide-oh-fck.html
I still can't drivv this motherfucker that well, so bear with me and all apologies should I run over your damn mailbox.
There was a mall department store that had a ladies' lounge. I'd go hang out there, when my friends were you're shopping, because I'm an AA or an AAA, and there was only only local store that sold them, pre internet shopping. I would love if this was more common. Have a not in a public restroom area, with comfy seating, to breastfeed and change diapers, or calm a toddler fit.
Overheard from the kids playing Minecraft. Happily "Oh, yeah! I'm smarter than a chicken nugget!"
Seven year olds are *weird*
That is the cutest .gif!
Awww, thanks Dave!
Regarding women’s bathroom lounges, I think the societal segregation of spaces is a major component, but just practically speaking, it used to be a full time job just being a woman in public. Clothing was severely restrictive, including restrictive of your breathing, etiquette rules were harsh, and you even had your food intake restricted. Living in those conditions in any sort of hot weather, especially indoors without air-conditioning, was a nightmare. Fainting couches existed for a reason. You didn’t have any lightweight materials to make basic products like baby bottles, so you were carrying extra weight in addition to your garments if you wanted to travel into public with a baby. Men being abusive to women in public wasn’t nearly as frowned upon back then, but women walking around visually upset with their makeup was. A place to quietly go compose yourself and get your mask back on was a practical need, in order to maintain all those social constructs and expectations.
My hubby asked me recently why women go to the bathroom in groups, assuming it was because we want to talk shit about men. Lol! Yes, we definitely do that too. But it’s not the only reason. Sometimes it’s just more practical when you’re with a group of people, and you don’t want to waste time waiting on individual bathroom breaks. Sometimes it’s because you might have products in only one person’s purse but others need them. Sometimes it’s to give the men a moment to talk shit. And, sometimes it just feels safer. Of course, leaving your drink unattended at the table is also a risk. Society has women disadvantaged in most aspects. And we are conditioned to automatically consider everyone else’s needs before our own. And then there’s the competition element. That other woman might be going to freshen up her makeup and where does that leave you? Looking frumpy at the table, and ignored when she returns. Yes, it’s just that petty and many are unaware they are thinking it.
It’s ironic though, because nowadays it seems men are the ones who want a lounge area when shopping. They put massage chairs outside stores and vending machines. You get to pay to lounge while your partner shops.
That sure is a lot of wangdoodles in that there video. Nicely done 'Trix!
Nothing has separated the thoughtful left and the kneejerk tankies as neatly as Ukraine. The dissolution of twitter means that maybe I'll never see a "pacifist" defending Slobodan Milošević ever again
Remember, the current owner of Twitter also owns half the satellites in the air and needs to be cajoled and convinced by heads of state not to cut off access.
How the fuck did we get on this timeline?
By the Cubs winning the World Series in 2016, of course.
Regarding the TFG indictments...last night I foolishly allowed myself to run out of wine. Was it Randy Quaid in Independence Day who said "I picked a hell of a day to quit drinking."?
Lloyd Bridges in Airplane! actually.
Definitely not Todd Bridges.
Whatchoo talking about Willis? lol
It's interesting in the article about women's lounges that they were heavily race segregated, because when I was a child in the 60s, in highly segregated Philadelphia, the women's lounge at department stores was about the only place I ever encountered Black women in a non hierarchical setting, where they were just another shopper and not someone there to serve or take care of white people.
Per the Jonathan Haidt article, I'd like to point out that free unstructured play died out in part because we redesigned our physical environments to be entirely based on the car. Not only do kids have no autonomy and lead isolated lives until they're old enough to drive (and have a car of their own) but the entire area has been stripped of what urban planners call "third places," i.e. public places to hang out that aren't home or work.
The street's too dangerous because of the car and there's often nowhere to go anyway that doesn't cost money, or rendered hostile so as to ward off "undesirables," which usually explicitly means youths in the first place. We atomized society when we developed the suburbs.
Indeed. You weren't a complete, autonomous person until you had a car back in my day. And we LIKED it that way!
Absolutely- I grew up in the 19*mumbles* and in an urban environment (although I spent my summers in an extremely rural environment) and my friends and I had plenty of time for unstructured outdoor play. We used to be sent out to play after dinner, and told to come home when the streetlights came on.
I got anxiety for entirely different reasons.
And at least in Chicago, we have also criminalized teens' use of these spaces (just happened again this weekend)
That was of the main reasons we stayed in the city after having Son of Prickly. He's been riding public transit since he was a wee thing and now that he's a teen he can go out with his friends without needing a car (though a few of them can drive.)
I grew up in the city and the thing I always like to say is, "how early can a child read and understand a map? As soon as they have to." I was riding the bus alone as a tiny tyke. Folks be calling me "shorty with the jheri curl."
I am a proud owner of Wonkette US America Game Of Elections: The Game!
Mind you, I have never played it, not withstanding the excellent instructions from our babby overlord and her ailing (at the time) papa. I have pulled all the pieces out of the box (goodbye excellent antique roadshow future value), looked at every card, admired it more than a few times. I think the election cycle was too stressful to play it at the time, and too painful after the 2016 election itself.
But dammit, I've got my game, and I'll keep it till I'm old old old!
The aforementioned instructions:
https://www.wonkette.com/p/wonkette-all-about-ethics-in-gaming-journalism-a-review-of-our-own-elections-of-us-america-the-card-game?utm_source=%2Fsearch%2FWonkette%2520US%2520America%2520Game%2520Of%2520Elections%253A%2520The%2520Game!&utm_medium=reader2
(and on that note, let me say searching for old articles on the new platform WORKS, and I think it is faster and works better than on the old platform. Thanks, Trix and The Gang!)
at my father in laws funeral the womens bathroom had a lounge and my kids and their cousins were in there constantly, and I would have to stand outside the door and tell them not to goof around in there. children are like feral cats
Feral cat libelz!
German Überculture. No, never had one of those.
https://twitter.com/AlexLuck9/status/1686651213599899648
So, a big glob of uncooked ground beef, with onions stuck in it? I hope German slaughterhouses and meat processors are a bit more persnickety about cleanliness that the ones here in the Middle America.
It's not ground beef in Germany. It's pork. The dish is called Mett and I will eat it (only when in Germany)
Raw ground pork? I hope it comes with an albendazole chaser.
Magically delicious hed gif, Martini! Merci buttercups!
Looks like "Notes" have had a small change. You can only view them at a "Home" setting(they pick what you see is my best guess) or "Subscribed"(people you have subscribed to), you used to be able to also do "Subscribers"(people subscribed to you) but that has disappeared. I liked the one they took away, so poop. Now if they could just take the extra step of letting you view them new to old, like how most people would prefer.
I use Subscribed.
Looks like they are going to change it so that you can just follow someone's Notes without subscribing which I think could work well. I liked using subscribers because I have more of those and I've found "home" to be the most useless.