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Teddy Barnes's avatar

Can't wait for someone to claim their frozen embryo's as tax deductions........just sayin'

Rad's avatar

So they're not going to eat breakfast? "Here are your bacon and ...chickens who already exist".

Jens TINGLEFF's avatar

JD "Joy Divan" Vance tries to explain his foreign policy gravitas with "jokes." It doesn't go too good.

๐˜‘๐˜‹ ๐˜๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜›๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ญ. ๐˜๐˜ต ๐˜จ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ

๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฑ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜š๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ป๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฉ๐˜ต ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ, ๐˜ซ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜ธ๐˜ฌ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฌ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ธ โ€” ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง๐˜ง ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜น๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜๐˜ด๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ, ๐˜ธ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜‰๐˜ข๐˜น๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ

๐˜ˆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ง ๐˜ฅ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜บ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ป๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฆ๐˜น๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ถ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ค ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜จ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด. โ€œ๐˜—๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜จ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ดโ€ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ต ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ โ€œ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜จ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด,โ€ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฅ, ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ข ๐˜ด๐˜ฎ๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ, โ€œ๐˜ฃ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ซ๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ธ.โ€

๐˜•๐˜ฐ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ๐˜บ ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ถ๐˜จ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ. ๐˜๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฏ: โ€œ๐˜‘๐˜ฐ๐˜บ ๐˜‰๐˜ฆ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ณ ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ด๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ง๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ด ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ.โ€ ๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vance-trump-iran-deal-israel-b2998602.html

Furiouser and Furiouser's avatar

All theyโ€™re asking for is heteronormative families with no fertility issues, that stuff is boring.

Rachael's avatar

It's only a matter of time before the"pro-lifers" decide that the only way to save all of those "children who already exist"is to forcibley implant them into unwilling hosts.

Rad's avatar

He's trying to reel in that base again. Needs to give them some red meat so they vote for him and the GOP. Don't know it it's too little, too late.

gallbladder's avatar

Now, where were we?

beb's avatar

It's hard to call an embryo a person when they are smaller than the dot at the end of a sentence.

Goonemeritus's avatar

My frozen kids never visit, or remember my birthday.

David N. Brown's avatar

Just for context, I normally identify as "pro life", and I never bought into the idea of an embryo in a freezer being equivalent to a naturally conceived fetus in the womb. My longer rant, there was a point (especially about 1970s-1990s) when the methods of the IVF industry were more philosophically alien to me than the "pro choice" crowd. I'm satisfied that things have improved, and it definitely correlates with the industry moving away from a club of straight men.

JW's avatar

This level of crazy is nothing new for Texas GOP platforms. They always include wildly crazy shit. Once the dust settles they shift to winning by not talking about how crazy the nominees and the platform are. Thereโ€™s a small number of absolutely batshit people controlling the money and nominations.

When I lived in Texas I always thought there should be a lot more attention paid to all this, because the Republicans absolutely tone it down for the general elections.

Thixotropickle's avatar

Better not tell the conservodumbs about how every time a woman has a period a fetal almost person eggule goes bye bye or theyโ€™ll be calling them witches.

Pexas Teat's avatar

A child has been born. Words (used to) have meaning, and probably still largely do within law, except for when SCOTUS gets involved.

dave's avatar

This is just another way to remove the choices women have for childbirth, force them to marry early, and eliminate them from educational and workforce opportunities.

GrannysKnitting's avatar

so they want people to have more children, but on the right people, and only if they can have them without any form of assistance (medical of financial) - so then my question is, why aren't all these billion and millionaires pumping out a baby a year? huh? isn't that their duty?

David N. Brown's avatar

MAGA is the intellectual descendents of the eugenicists who looked at "pro life" and "pro choice" and chose "neither".

Thixotropickle's avatar

A certain very enigmatic rich friend of Donny Pedobrains had a babby farm set up in New Mexico that one timeโ€ฆ

Eureka's avatar

Elon with his 14 or more kids and that European creep Pavel Durov who founded Telegram and has had over 100 kids are pumping them out with medical assistance. How these kids turn out in adulthood will be another story, of course.

Boojum's avatar

I'm a proponent of abortion on demand, for any or no reason, up to the fetus can be removed and live without using its mother as an incubator. I'm also a supporter of every kind of birth control. Until recently, I have thought a declining population was also a good thing, because of resource utilization, living space, and climate change. I still hold the first two views

However, I ran some calculations using Claude AI and the population decline is unsustainable over the long run. There have also never been any instances in which population decline reversed itself, except for the post WWII baby boom. I still think we are over populated, but I am starting to believe that we need to slow the population decline by providing far more in incentives and support for families that want children. Raising minimum wage to match productivity increases; free, quality childcare; relaxing immigration restrictions; providing more tax incentives for families with children; investing in public schools at a rate probably double what we do now and a myriad of other supports; providing cradle to grave single payer healthcare; providing basic income so that parents aren't afraid they will be sacrificing their own retirement if they have children.

All of this could be paid for by taxing the Epstein class. Much of it pays for itself by virtue of the multiplier effect of direct spending. The increase in family size is freely chosen, not forced. But check my math on the current birth rates over the long haul and I hope I'm wrong. If not, we need to do something and I would rather we go extinct than survive by forcing women to be slave labor incubators.

Miss Grundy's avatar

From Ann Telnaes' Open Windows, "An embarrassing performance at the G7":

https://anntelnaes.substack.com/p/an-embarrassing-performance-at-the?

Jens TINGLEFF's avatar

Ramping up to only infrequent appearances. A bit like Bouteflika

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelaziz_Bouteflika