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Teddy Barnes's avatar

Can't wait for someone to claim their frozen embryo's as tax deductions........just sayin'

Rad's avatar

So they're not going to eat breakfast? "Here are your bacon and ...chickens who already exist".

Jens TINGLEFF's avatar

JD "Joy Divan" Vance tries to explain his foreign policy gravitas with "jokes." It doesn't go too good.

𝘑𝘋 𝘝𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘛𝘳𝘶𝘮𝘱’𝘴 𝘐𝘳𝘢𝘯 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘭. 𝘐𝘵 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘸𝘦𝘪𝘳𝘥

𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘳 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘱 𝘵𝘰 𝘚𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘻𝘦𝘳𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯, 𝘫𝘰𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘸𝘬𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘣𝘰𝘰𝘬 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘮𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘝𝘪𝘦𝘸 — 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧𝘧 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘯 𝘶𝘯𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥𝘭𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘐𝘴𝘳𝘢𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘏𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘉𝘢𝘹𝘵𝘦𝘳

𝘈𝘴 𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘩𝘪𝘮𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘧 𝘥𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦, 𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘣𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘻𝘦𝘳𝘰 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘥𝘪𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘤 𝘯𝘦𝘨𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴. “𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘴” 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘥𝘰 “𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘨𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴,” 𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥, 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢 𝘴𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘦, “𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘵𝘸𝘰 𝘥𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘢𝘨𝘰 𝘐 𝘸𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘯 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘝𝘪𝘦𝘸.”

𝘕𝘰𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘦𝘥. 𝘏𝘦 𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯: “𝘑𝘰𝘺 𝘉𝘦𝘩𝘢𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘐𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘧𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘸.” 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘰𝘰𝘮 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘴𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘵.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vance-trump-iran-deal-israel-b2998602.html

Furiouser and Furiouser's avatar

All they’re asking for is heteronormative families with no fertility issues, that stuff is boring.

Rachael's avatar

It's only a matter of time before the"pro-lifers" decide that the only way to save all of those "children who already exist"is to forcibley implant them into unwilling hosts.

Rad's avatar

He's trying to reel in that base again. Needs to give them some red meat so they vote for him and the GOP. Don't know it it's too little, too late.

gallbladder's avatar

Now, where were we?

beb's avatar

It's hard to call an embryo a person when they are smaller than the dot at the end of a sentence.

Goonemeritus's avatar

My frozen kids never visit, or remember my birthday.

David N. Brown's avatar

Just for context, I normally identify as "pro life", and I never bought into the idea of an embryo in a freezer being equivalent to a naturally conceived fetus in the womb. My longer rant, there was a point (especially about 1970s-1990s) when the methods of the IVF industry were more philosophically alien to me than the "pro choice" crowd. I'm satisfied that things have improved, and it definitely correlates with the industry moving away from a club of straight men.

JW's avatar

This level of crazy is nothing new for Texas GOP platforms. They always include wildly crazy shit. Once the dust settles they shift to winning by not talking about how crazy the nominees and the platform are. There’s a small number of absolutely batshit people controlling the money and nominations.

When I lived in Texas I always thought there should be a lot more attention paid to all this, because the Republicans absolutely tone it down for the general elections.

Thixotropickle's avatar

Better not tell the conservodumbs about how every time a woman has a period a fetal almost person eggule goes bye bye or they’ll be calling them witches.

Pexas Teat's avatar

A child has been born. Words (used to) have meaning, and probably still largely do within law, except for when SCOTUS gets involved.

dave's avatar

This is just another way to remove the choices women have for childbirth, force them to marry early, and eliminate them from educational and workforce opportunities.

GrannysKnitting's avatar

so they want people to have more children, but on the right people, and only if they can have them without any form of assistance (medical of financial) - so then my question is, why aren't all these billion and millionaires pumping out a baby a year? huh? isn't that their duty?

David N. Brown's avatar

MAGA is the intellectual descendents of the eugenicists who looked at "pro life" and "pro choice" and chose "neither".

Thixotropickle's avatar

A certain very enigmatic rich friend of Donny Pedobrains had a babby farm set up in New Mexico that one time…

Eureka's avatar

Elon with his 14 or more kids and that European creep Pavel Durov who founded Telegram and has had over 100 kids are pumping them out with medical assistance. How these kids turn out in adulthood will be another story, of course.

Boojum's avatar

I'm a proponent of abortion on demand, for any or no reason, up to the fetus can be removed and live without using its mother as an incubator. I'm also a supporter of every kind of birth control. Until recently, I have thought a declining population was also a good thing, because of resource utilization, living space, and climate change. I still hold the first two views

However, I ran some calculations using Claude AI and the population decline is unsustainable over the long run. There have also never been any instances in which population decline reversed itself, except for the post WWII baby boom. I still think we are over populated, but I am starting to believe that we need to slow the population decline by providing far more in incentives and support for families that want children. Raising minimum wage to match productivity increases; free, quality childcare; relaxing immigration restrictions; providing more tax incentives for families with children; investing in public schools at a rate probably double what we do now and a myriad of other supports; providing cradle to grave single payer healthcare; providing basic income so that parents aren't afraid they will be sacrificing their own retirement if they have children.

All of this could be paid for by taxing the Epstein class. Much of it pays for itself by virtue of the multiplier effect of direct spending. The increase in family size is freely chosen, not forced. But check my math on the current birth rates over the long haul and I hope I'm wrong. If not, we need to do something and I would rather we go extinct than survive by forcing women to be slave labor incubators.

Miss Grundy's avatar

From Ann Telnaes' Open Windows, "An embarrassing performance at the G7":

https://anntelnaes.substack.com/p/an-embarrassing-performance-at-the?

Jens TINGLEFF's avatar

Ramping up to only infrequent appearances. A bit like Bouteflika

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelaziz_Bouteflika