Do NOT get me started on the subject of Zimbabwe. I have studied that country for twenty years, because Lewis Chitengwa--the first Black golfer to win the South African Amateur tournament--came from there, coached by his father, before coming to this country to enroll at UVA. Robert Mugabe could have served as a template for Trump, were it not for his nation's extreme poverty and the fact that he too was Black.
Victor Orban and Vladdy Putin are merely whitewashed versions of the authoritarian power grab Mugabe executed, with Putin employing at least as much terrorism against his own people and much more against others; it should be noted that Mugabe never consolidated an army to invade Zambia. And that many white tourists continued to visit beautiful Zimbabwe during his reign.
African countries (referred to by our exemplar of a president as "shitholes") are just playthings for MAGA to toss around in service of its aims. It's all lies, and every day that passes makes those purveying (and swallowing) them more culpable.
South Africa has had a 'white homeland' since democracy was introduced in 1994 - it's called Orania, bang in the middle of the country, and is regarded as a quaint relic of the apartheid era by the rest of the white population and the government, and left alone.
Wikipedia:
Two South African presidents have visited the town. Nelson Mandela visited in 1995, and Jacob Zuma in 2010. The town has also received visits from tribal leaders from the Xhosa and Tswana people.
The town has grown at an annual rate that was estimated at 10% in 2019 — faster than any other town in South Africa.[22] The population increased by 55% to 2,500 from 2018 to mid-2022,[18] and to 2,800 in July 2023.[23] In 2023, the town council announced plans for the population to grow to 10,000 as soon as possible. In a country of almost 65 million people.
That's the ... errr... crisis we face here. Afriforum (not Afroforum) disgraces itself by exploiting Musk and Twitter-X and the racist media in the U.S.
It's not that they "don't know" (though at the rate Mary Trump says Donald's brain is deteriorating because of inherited tendencies, it's entirely possible he doesn't know anything -- also he literally read)
It's that they view its ending as a terrible tragedy
It's amazing to me how often Peter Thiel is touted as a genius but none of these twisted clowns want to remember that apartheid ultimately ends up being terrible for any given economy
Not a huge fan of Tim Miller (it's irrational. don't ask.) but I love me some Zerlina Maxwell. She's been screaming all this from the rooftops for over ten years now, but plenty of people had (and probably still have) their heads up their asses shoulder deep and weren't listening.
Now, that Elno would go where a) his feelings are being hurt and b) where the money is, and then start wreaking havoc unfortunately didn't require a rocket scientist to figure out. :/
And, of course, third verse same as the first, people are still not paying attention.
The fascists are now actively pushing to make apartheid real here. In America. Or is it more like Rwandan genocide in the 1990's? They're going to normalize it until they start killing anyone who is "elitist," "not real Americans," "POC," or "liberals supporting the takeover of our homeland," right? Or is this that "1/3 of America will murder another 1/3 while the rest watch it happen" pivotal crisis?
That last part - some of us have literally been warning about that for a decade and a half as some people seem to become not just more ignorant, but seem to be actively choosing ignorance (denial, I guess)
Tucker Carlson is on the wrong side of every political and cultural issue, because he is a white supremacist, batty in the head, jerk. Unfortunately for us in the US, that is the kind of people running our country into oligarchy at the moment. This white "victim" BS is fodder for the ongoing coup. Purging Blacks, women, and LGBTQ people from photos and documents in just about everything in the federal government now is making the white supremacist power structure very happy.
I can't express how much I wish people would stop stating the obvious and thinking about what might come next ... which, who knows, might push some people to start thinking about solutions about how to stop and reverse it, as opposed to sitting around hand-wringing and behaving as though it's inevitable, which Professor Tim Snyder really did warn us against
Thank you for the link, excellent article and to the point about a neo-apartheid push here in the US. There is no question in my mind that anti-DEI, anti-affirmative actions, the gutting of EOC type programs, and the purge of Blacks and women from DOD photos, documents and displays, for instance, is a deliberate movement to erase Black and Women achievements in the US from history. And forbid them future employment, advancement if employed, any awards, and any notice. Furthermore, such erasure and censure will allow rabid racists permission to harass, injure, assault, and even kill said "undesirables". That is the future for Blacks and Women if this administration gets away with its coup. Reistance to coups usually takes a brutal revolution. I am afraid that is our near future.
So PAB is mad that Afrikaners didn't have absolute control over Lesotho (Ya know, that thing nobody ever heard of) and wants to make all of Pretoria great again.
In a way, Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson save me the effort of a lot of research and thinking! If I'm pushed for time I just check out their latest utterances - like the claim that white farmers in South Africa are having their land and farms expropriated - and then I assume the exact opposite is true.
I think that Musk should invite Fucker Carlson, Hegspeth, and Vought should all do a rocket ride on a SpaceX rocket. And I’ll say no more out of the possibility of being ban hammered. May they have a last in a lifetime experience.
I mean the governments of South Africa and Zimbabwe have legitimately failed their people for a long time. Zimbabwe was absolutely better off as a colony. But apartheid is bad, and the exiting colonial powers sabotaged the nascent states (though this can't be an excuse forever).
It was not better off as a colony. It is fucked up because it was a colony. Being a colony directly lead to the troubles it is facing now. It was not better off as a colony.
Be aware that Peter Dutton, aka Duffer, aka Spud, is now the leader of the LNP and has a good chance of being Australia's next Prime Minister, FSM help us
can't we just ship these dinguses off to a small island somewhere with a 'whites only' sign on the beach and leave them to it?
Do NOT get me started on the subject of Zimbabwe. I have studied that country for twenty years, because Lewis Chitengwa--the first Black golfer to win the South African Amateur tournament--came from there, coached by his father, before coming to this country to enroll at UVA. Robert Mugabe could have served as a template for Trump, were it not for his nation's extreme poverty and the fact that he too was Black.
Victor Orban and Vladdy Putin are merely whitewashed versions of the authoritarian power grab Mugabe executed, with Putin employing at least as much terrorism against his own people and much more against others; it should be noted that Mugabe never consolidated an army to invade Zambia. And that many white tourists continued to visit beautiful Zimbabwe during his reign.
African countries (referred to by our exemplar of a president as "shitholes") are just playthings for MAGA to toss around in service of its aims. It's all lies, and every day that passes makes those purveying (and swallowing) them more culpable.
History tells us that white South Africans actually had TWO homelands.
THE NETHERLANDS AND THE UK.
They LEFT their fucking homelands to steal huge chunks of Africa from the people who lived there.
[I assume hundreds of you have already made this point--apologies]
South Africa has had a 'white homeland' since democracy was introduced in 1994 - it's called Orania, bang in the middle of the country, and is regarded as a quaint relic of the apartheid era by the rest of the white population and the government, and left alone.
Wikipedia:
Two South African presidents have visited the town. Nelson Mandela visited in 1995, and Jacob Zuma in 2010. The town has also received visits from tribal leaders from the Xhosa and Tswana people.
The town has grown at an annual rate that was estimated at 10% in 2019 — faster than any other town in South Africa.[22] The population increased by 55% to 2,500 from 2018 to mid-2022,[18] and to 2,800 in July 2023.[23] In 2023, the town council announced plans for the population to grow to 10,000 as soon as possible. In a country of almost 65 million people.
That's the ... errr... crisis we face here. Afriforum (not Afroforum) disgraces itself by exploiting Musk and Twitter-X and the racist media in the U.S.
Apartheid ended thirty years ago. What are the chances That Man doesn't know?
It's not that they "don't know" (though at the rate Mary Trump says Donald's brain is deteriorating because of inherited tendencies, it's entirely possible he doesn't know anything -- also he literally read)
It's that they view its ending as a terrible tragedy
It's amazing to me how often Peter Thiel is touted as a genius but none of these twisted clowns want to remember that apartheid ultimately ends up being terrible for any given economy
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/elon-musk-doge-neo-apartheid/
They seem to just be allergic to inconvenient facts
As someone on here said a while ago, all he has are wants.
And yeah, apartheid, similar to slavery, has a net negative effect on the whole of society. There isn't anything good to find in there.
I'd also go a step further and say that they are allergic to facts.
“they are allergic to facts”
Literally said that just yesterday
... and the clock is ticking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFpWDmW8dqk&t=2s
s://bsky.app/profile/muellershewrote.bsky.social/post/3ljyv2uffnc2o
Not a huge fan of Tim Miller (it's irrational. don't ask.) but I love me some Zerlina Maxwell. She's been screaming all this from the rooftops for over ten years now, but plenty of people had (and probably still have) their heads up their asses shoulder deep and weren't listening.
Now, that Elno would go where a) his feelings are being hurt and b) where the money is, and then start wreaking havoc unfortunately didn't require a rocket scientist to figure out. :/
And, of course, third verse same as the first, people are still not paying attention.
The fascists are now actively pushing to make apartheid real here. In America. Or is it more like Rwandan genocide in the 1990's? They're going to normalize it until they start killing anyone who is "elitist," "not real Americans," "POC," or "liberals supporting the takeover of our homeland," right? Or is this that "1/3 of America will murder another 1/3 while the rest watch it happen" pivotal crisis?
That last part - some of us have literally been warning about that for a decade and a half as some people seem to become not just more ignorant, but seem to be actively choosing ignorance (denial, I guess)
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/elon-musk-doge-neo-apartheid/
"The fascists are now actively pushing to make apartheid real here."
There's this thing called Jim Crow. Hitler got his ideas from it, not the other way around.
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hitlers-american-model
If they did not lie, they would not talk about anything.
This would be a good thing.
Tucker Carlson is on the wrong side of every political and cultural issue, because he is a white supremacist, batty in the head, jerk. Unfortunately for us in the US, that is the kind of people running our country into oligarchy at the moment. This white "victim" BS is fodder for the ongoing coup. Purging Blacks, women, and LGBTQ people from photos and documents in just about everything in the federal government now is making the white supremacist power structure very happy.
I can't express how much I wish people would stop stating the obvious and thinking about what might come next ... which, who knows, might push some people to start thinking about solutions about how to stop and reverse it, as opposed to sitting around hand-wringing and behaving as though it's inevitable, which Professor Tim Snyder really did warn us against
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/elon-musk-doge-neo-apartheid/
Thank you for the link, excellent article and to the point about a neo-apartheid push here in the US. There is no question in my mind that anti-DEI, anti-affirmative actions, the gutting of EOC type programs, and the purge of Blacks and women from DOD photos, documents and displays, for instance, is a deliberate movement to erase Black and Women achievements in the US from history. And forbid them future employment, advancement if employed, any awards, and any notice. Furthermore, such erasure and censure will allow rabid racists permission to harass, injure, assault, and even kill said "undesirables". That is the future for Blacks and Women if this administration gets away with its coup. Reistance to coups usually takes a brutal revolution. I am afraid that is our near future.
So PAB is mad that Afrikaners didn't have absolute control over Lesotho (Ya know, that thing nobody ever heard of) and wants to make all of Pretoria great again.
In a way, Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson save me the effort of a lot of research and thinking! If I'm pushed for time I just check out their latest utterances - like the claim that white farmers in South Africa are having their land and farms expropriated - and then I assume the exact opposite is true.
I haven't gone far wrong yet.
Assume that everything they say is wrong and a lie.
You can have any homeland you want in Siberia. Dress warm.
The natives there are not white. Don't inflict white supremicists on them.
Too late.
Pootys government is pretty white supremacist.
A lot of them were conscripted to Ukrainian front lines. Another reason to hate Putin and the old Soviet guard.
I think that Musk should invite Fucker Carlson, Hegspeth, and Vought should all do a rocket ride on a SpaceX rocket. And I’ll say no more out of the possibility of being ban hammered. May they have a last in a lifetime experience.
WHEEEEE!
I mean the governments of South Africa and Zimbabwe have legitimately failed their people for a long time. Zimbabwe was absolutely better off as a colony. But apartheid is bad, and the exiting colonial powers sabotaged the nascent states (though this can't be an excuse forever).
It was not better off as a colony. It is fucked up because it was a colony. Being a colony directly lead to the troubles it is facing now. It was not better off as a colony.
Be aware that Peter Dutton, aka Duffer, aka Spud, is now the leader of the LNP and has a good chance of being Australia's next Prime Minister, FSM help us
Ta, Marcie. fElon skuM and That Thing from Mierda Loco can fuck right off into the sun., preferably in one of SpaceX's splodey rockets.
Well this isn't surprising at all. Would they get a discount on the 5 million dollar citizenship too?
In my opinion the USA is full of racists so ideally they can at least screen out any Apartheid aficionados...oh who am I kidding?