If all the rich are leaving the city because of an increased tax on second homes, are they taking the second homes with them? Cause I assumed they would have to sell them, but if not, I have questions.
Yeah......I just saw the time stamp. 0938 means the office. If it was 200 and that coherent, I would have to wonder what she was doing in his quarters at that time.......EWW......
(Hey, why should Trump and Trumpists be the only ones allowed to vent in hysterical capitals?)
You want pure amateur hour?
The Trump presidency is not pure amateur hour, it is pure amateur YEARS. Dangerous, destructive, irresponsible years. Years of a presidency adorned by lying bombast such as even the GWB administration didn't equal while hyping its Iraq War.
And Richard Nixon was a model of decorum, truth and integrity compared to Donald Trump.
So…Rich Fucker A (RFA) who has a second home in NY, sort of by definition doesn’t live there, because why have two homes in NY? So he decides to “leave” NY by selling his home. So either (a) he can sell it, but only to RFB, who also wants a second home in NY and thinks it’s worth the tax to have access to all it offers, or (b) he can’t sell it, because RFB is also a scared tittybaby, so RFA has to keep owning it and paying the taxes. I don’t see any downside here.
I think, ideally, a high corporate tax would "force" more companies to move to some sort of ESOP. (Some of the best companies that move to employee stock option programs structure them in such a way that employee owners are "gifted" shares as an addition to an already generous, by most measures, compensation package. For some, this means that they need to do whatever it takes to move tax liability, from gifted days off for all, to actual material gifts, to additional bonuses, so that corporate profit = $0 at the end of the fiscal year.) In addition, tax the fuck out of millionaires / billionaires on a sliding scale until we get to over 60% to 70% once you hit a certain level. Not sure what that is, but maybe $100 MM? Maybe less? No loopholes too. Limit the power of pass through S-corps and LLCs (only those using shady methods to doctor P&L sheets or other means to hide actual income). There has got to be a way, we just need will from our legislature.
Note Trump's perpetual habit of using ridiculous hyperbole. A tax on 17k gazillionaire's vacation homes - NOT their residences - will cause the entire city, and the state (!) to collapse into ruins. Those folks can't leave cuz they already live elsewhere, otherwise no tax. If they sell those homes in a huff, it will achieve the measure's secondary goal of putting the homes back into the market. Chill, Donald.
Also hasn't he has already said NYC is a shithole because of the election of Mamdani and NYC's resistance to Trump-stapo over-running the city and killing everyone? What a fucking loser. I don't understand how even more people (than 60% or whatever) hear "second home over $5-fucking-million will be taxed" and think it's not a good idea. I do pretty well. I will NEVER have a primary residence worth $5 MM, let alone a secondary residence.
These days we have to distinguish between The moderately Rich, The Rich, The Ultra Rich, the exorbitantly rich and the ungodly rich. It will be "easy to raise taxes in the first three brackets but revenue captured won;t be much. The real money is taxing the last two brackets and they're going to spend like hell to fight it.
"The real money is taxing the last two brackets and they're going to spend like hell to fight it."
That's the irony, isn't it
There was a story all over the socials the other day about how this Google-affiliated multi-millionaire or billionaire spent more to fight the tax than the tax actually would have been
That's how you know this isn't really so much about the money as it is about power & control & the dominance hierarchy
If the Koch Brothers had taken all the money they threw at protecting their fossil fuel interests and put it into renewables and battery R&D, they could be the holders of patents today that would dwarf their oil profits.
Taxing the rich sounds pretty kosher to me. That avoids the stigma of haram. As for defenestrating the rich, I think Central Park Tower would be a terrific drop site. Howard Lutnick could finally make a big splash.
If it's a tax on second properties, how would you avoid it by moving to Texas or Florida? Wouldn't you have to sell the property? Thus increasing the amount of available housing in Manhattan, which would (eventually) drive down housing prices for everyone? Furthermore, tasteless asshole Trump (although Rubio or Vance could probably confirm how it tastes) aside, if you're rich enough to afford a peid-a-terre in NYC, you're probably not interested in the TX or FL lifestyle.
If all the rich are leaving the city because of an increased tax on second homes, are they taking the second homes with them? Cause I assumed they would have to sell them, but if not, I have questions.
Save me from the jihadists who want to improve our lives! She said with tears in her eyes.
Not a snowball's chance in hell Trumpelforeskin penned that screed. The grammar isn't screwed up enough........just sayin'
It's Natalie. Everybody's thinking it. I just said it out loud. It's Natalie.
Yeah......I just saw the time stamp. 0938 means the office. If it was 200 and that coherent, I would have to wonder what she was doing in his quarters at that time.......EWW......
Jihad always seemed right-wingish to me.
PURE AMATEUR HOUR?
(Hey, why should Trump and Trumpists be the only ones allowed to vent in hysterical capitals?)
You want pure amateur hour?
The Trump presidency is not pure amateur hour, it is pure amateur YEARS. Dangerous, destructive, irresponsible years. Years of a presidency adorned by lying bombast such as even the GWB administration didn't equal while hyping its Iraq War.
And Richard Nixon was a model of decorum, truth and integrity compared to Donald Trump.
Nixon could at least rock a tux.
"isn't that a shame?"
>it's like a cliffhanger ending
So…Rich Fucker A (RFA) who has a second home in NY, sort of by definition doesn’t live there, because why have two homes in NY? So he decides to “leave” NY by selling his home. So either (a) he can sell it, but only to RFB, who also wants a second home in NY and thinks it’s worth the tax to have access to all it offers, or (b) he can’t sell it, because RFB is also a scared tittybaby, so RFA has to keep owning it and paying the taxes. I don’t see any downside here.
RFA isn't going to do shit. He has that second home so he can put on airs about being a New Yorker when he's in town.
If he had to stay at a hotel, he'd just be a visitor.
He made a deal with himself so he'd never be punished for tax evasion.
That was a pretty good deal.
Surprising when you consider that both parties to the deal are idiots.
That was a critical success factor.
why is it that the people with the most want to share the least? and are such assholes about it?
This is why I hate people. Present company and Mrs. 🦡🍄🐍 excepted.
I think, ideally, a high corporate tax would "force" more companies to move to some sort of ESOP. (Some of the best companies that move to employee stock option programs structure them in such a way that employee owners are "gifted" shares as an addition to an already generous, by most measures, compensation package. For some, this means that they need to do whatever it takes to move tax liability, from gifted days off for all, to actual material gifts, to additional bonuses, so that corporate profit = $0 at the end of the fiscal year.) In addition, tax the fuck out of millionaires / billionaires on a sliding scale until we get to over 60% to 70% once you hit a certain level. Not sure what that is, but maybe $100 MM? Maybe less? No loopholes too. Limit the power of pass through S-corps and LLCs (only those using shady methods to doctor P&L sheets or other means to hide actual income). There has got to be a way, we just need will from our legislature.
Note Trump's perpetual habit of using ridiculous hyperbole. A tax on 17k gazillionaire's vacation homes - NOT their residences - will cause the entire city, and the state (!) to collapse into ruins. Those folks can't leave cuz they already live elsewhere, otherwise no tax. If they sell those homes in a huff, it will achieve the measure's secondary goal of putting the homes back into the market. Chill, Donald.
Also hasn't he has already said NYC is a shithole because of the election of Mamdani and NYC's resistance to Trump-stapo over-running the city and killing everyone? What a fucking loser. I don't understand how even more people (than 60% or whatever) hear "second home over $5-fucking-million will be taxed" and think it's not a good idea. I do pretty well. I will NEVER have a primary residence worth $5 MM, let alone a secondary residence.
"...especially to a place I once loved."
They did not love you back, Don.
Yeah, we hated his fucking ass first! LOL!
Pied-à-terrorist...good one, Dok!🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish Trumpism was in the rear-view, but in the mean time, laughing at these morally bankrupt b's is therapeutic.
From deep in the heart of Texas, " ¡Hasta la victoría siempre! ", y'all.
These days we have to distinguish between The moderately Rich, The Rich, The Ultra Rich, the exorbitantly rich and the ungodly rich. It will be "easy to raise taxes in the first three brackets but revenue captured won;t be much. The real money is taxing the last two brackets and they're going to spend like hell to fight it.
"The real money is taxing the last two brackets and they're going to spend like hell to fight it."
That's the irony, isn't it
There was a story all over the socials the other day about how this Google-affiliated multi-millionaire or billionaire spent more to fight the tax than the tax actually would have been
That's how you know this isn't really so much about the money as it is about power & control & the dominance hierarchy
If the Koch Brothers had taken all the money they threw at protecting their fossil fuel interests and put it into renewables and battery R&D, they could be the holders of patents today that would dwarf their oil profits.
I sure wish you'd talk to them about that
Nepo babies. I doubt anyone can tell them anything.
Nothing beats a failure but a try
Tax their spending
Trump will never pay the tax anyway, he will rent it out to some sus LLC, so why does he even care?
Taxing the rich sounds pretty kosher to me. That avoids the stigma of haram. As for defenestrating the rich, I think Central Park Tower would be a terrific drop site. Howard Lutnick could finally make a big splash.
If it's a tax on second properties, how would you avoid it by moving to Texas or Florida? Wouldn't you have to sell the property? Thus increasing the amount of available housing in Manhattan, which would (eventually) drive down housing prices for everyone? Furthermore, tasteless asshole Trump (although Rubio or Vance could probably confirm how it tastes) aside, if you're rich enough to afford a peid-a-terre in NYC, you're probably not interested in the TX or FL lifestyle.
They can move to Alabama. I hear the Broadway Series is supposed to get Hamilton! next year. Or the year after.
You're assuming Trump has a single firing synapse when he speaks.
Look at you, bringing logic to a stupid fight.