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So the reanimated corpse of Dr. Ewdard Teller is now directing the EPA?

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By "magic" I mean things like "Law of Attraction", prosperity gospel, astrology, and something about vibrations and photonic belts.

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Well, we used to have multi-day arguments about which way electrons flow: + to -, or - to +.

And my teacher in solid-state theory, physics PhD, tried to explain for hours about "hole flow" (the flow of the absence of electrons) in a semiconductor junction, and we weren't having it. He finally sighed and said, "look, just think of them as magic rocks, and bias them correctly, and everything will be fine." We now know involves quantum effects, but back then it really was magic.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."-Aurther C. Clarke's Third Law

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Speaking as a CS student who knows engineers, the "believes in nonsense/magic because they don't know how science works" stereotype is well-founded.

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I'd rather have a bottle afront of me than a frontal lobotomy.

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It's an old talking point. I think I saw a Politically Incorrect Guide back in the early 00s say that plutonium wasn't really poisonous.

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I actually forgot the chemtrails. It's most definitely the chemtrails.

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Clearly it is time for me to go shopping for another book. I appreciate both the inspiration to do so along with that for a good THINK, willi. Thank you!

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don't tell me, i already know . . . tell the idiots advising EPA.

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No shit. Really?

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That's true . . . that doesn't mean "well, let's add even more radionuclides to your neighbourhood for fun and profit."

And by the way, Denver is where Rocky Flats is located. You get radiation from the plutonium spread around the city as well.

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You will have higher exposures to ionizing radiation just by living at an elevation (say Denver). You can also get more by living lower down in a mine as that is where the radon hangs out. Ordinary background radiation is already creating a risk - not huge, but significant. Another source of environmental radiation was above ground testing of nuclear bombs. Even the most conservative estimates for the risk that fall-out poses (due to it being spread on dust lifted by the explosions) is in hundreds of thousands - with a lead-in time of decades. It would be impossible to identify a specific case as being the result of a bomb test, but statistically, they must occur and will be the cause of millions of deaths.

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a bit familiar with that . . . ex-MIL painted watch dials.

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It is cumulative. That is the devil in the detail. Ionizing radiation at any level will not go away. And as the total amount increases for all in the population, so will the incidence of cancers. You might be able to avoid lung cancer by quitting smoking, but you can't undo your ongoing exposure to that radiation in all forms. They are just playing games with words really.

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That's been done in New Jersey, before they knew radium was actually a hazard.

There are over 100 radium Superfund sites in New Jersey involving radium thanks to the US Radium Corporation. At the time, radium was not known to be dangerous.

This crap proposed by the EPA would allow the rich to simply kill us for profit. At least US Radium didn't know radium was dangerous at the time.

https://www.nytimes.com/199...

http://www.chicagotribune.c...

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