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That scares the hel outta me too, I can deal with getting really sick for a few days, but daily better and worse is a bloody nightmare. Also I've got about 6 of 7 risk factors, so it might not trouble me too too long.

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We are too bony, sharks don't like humans, spit them out. Unfortunately with parts missing.

I would come face to face with annoying aggressive reef sharks in Hawaii Caving (lava tube tunnels). On the Cozumel Wall, a big sucker 13-15 ft cruised by me, only one other guy saw it on the group dive, like a wicked silent deadly torpedo.

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He went spear fishing, at dusk, in black wetsuit and there are seal colonies all along that coast and very strong currents into Bass Strait and out to the Great Southern Ocean. So the assumption is no body because of the currents. The search went on for some time.

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He’s still butt hurt that that Fauci was asked to throw out a pitch and he wasn’t.

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Herd immunity is the *goal* of every vaccination program, and rarely achieved. It is not something that just happens naturally. Even if everyone agreed that it makes any kind of sense to be a "policy" that's just not how it works.

I wish they'd stick to utter horseshit when making excuses and not using actual terms. They could do it Star Trek style and sub in plausible-sounding phrases that won't confuse people who google it into thinking it's real. Eg., "What Dr. Fauci hasn't considered is tightening the angular confinement beam around the virus. We could reverse polarity on the deflector dish. Charge it with tachyons and send a message back to 2016!"

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Hmm. Have you been watching Trump and his GOP enablers for the last 4 years? The number of things Trump "can't do" but did do with the full support of his party and no push back is a very large number at this point.

Now, I do agree that Trump will not fire Fauci 2 weeks before the election. But what he will do is to, effectively, incite violence against Fauci by the rhetoric we've seen coming from him just, oh, today (or was it yesterday?).

Unless it was not clear, my comments about Fauci were not meant to imply that is how I think about Fauci, but how Trump thinks about Fauci. You could see his distaste for people like Fauci at those "briefings". Trump hates people who actually know what they are talking about and Fauci has been that guy for months now.

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I do not want to imagine.

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Mr Fauci's employment is protected by the law. Even Mr Trump knows it.

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Pix of Ted Cruz😨

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"Original Intent" - seances with wigs and wooden teeth.

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+1 for tachyon reference... the duct-tape of the Star Trek universe.

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I know I've been less of a fan of Fauci than most people here. And let me be clear I truly believe that Fauci's integrity is beyond reproach and I have believed and continue to believe that his motivations for remaining a part of the Trump shitshow are honorable. I respect his devotion to this country. But, sometimes devotion to duty and your sense of honor can lead you to very bad outcomes when you are working in the most corrupt and incompetent administration in the history of the county.

So, here is my critique of Fauci remaining a part of the Trump administration. It is 2-fold, based on my assumptions of the argument for him remaining:

1. He could effect change from the inside. Well, I'll offer as exhibit A our national response. It has been an absolute shitshow of a dumpster fire of a disaster. It is an absolute fucking embarrassment compared to our peer countries. So, whatever Fauci's desire to help craft a better national response from his position as an insider, his efforts have been abject failures and the proof, again, is in our national response. I'm certainly not blaming him for that failure, but his presence has clearly not made one bit of difference.

2. The other way Fauci could, theoretically, effect the conversation is his public appearances. Unlike Birx and Redstone (and, well, every one else), Fauci has never lied or promoted snake oil in his public pronouncements, when he has been allowed to make them. But for most of the pandemic, his comments have been carefully crafted so as not to piss off the idiot POTUS*, which makes them less effective than they could have been if he were being fully honest. His desire to not be political has allowed Trump to make his comments political. When you are dealing with entirely shameless people like Trump, being honorable is pretty always going to help the shameless.

And Fauci's reward for his devotion to public service and his sense of honor has been to be the subject of a lot of invective from the asshole in chief and his surrogates, the volume of which has been raised in the last couple of days, but has been in the background for months to the point where Fauci and his family need security guards to ensure their safety from Trump fucking idiot supporters.

So, I'll ask: could Fauci have been more effective had he resigned very publicly at the end of June and been able to voice his opinions unfettered from WH muzzling from that point forward?

My answer to my own question is an unequivocal "yes".

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Again, have you been watching Trump...for the last 4(0) years? I know it may be shocking to our precious "norms", but I'm pretty sure Trump could have someone else fire Fauci for some trumped up reason that would pass some "legalistic" muster. But even if he did fire him in a blatantly "illegal" manner who, in your view, would hold him accountable.

But, like I implied, this is all moot, because Trump isn't stupid enough to fire Fauci 2 weeks before the election. The added benefit to not firing him is that Trump can continue to defame Fauci as the face of the shutdowns at his fascist rallies and incite violence against him, which I'm guessing Trump thinks will help his re-election more than outright firing him.

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He has to go to a Bama football game to help his fee fees.

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In the next zombie movie, I want to see people confronting the walking dead saying, "Go ahead and bite me. You're just a deep state goon in bad make-up. I ain't no sheeple. Bite me, I dare you."

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I didn't realize we were in the same P.E. class.

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