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willi0000000's avatar

definitely! . . . shipping shit is much easier than shipping hydrogen.

c_u_tech's avatar

And baby, oil that is...

c_u_tech's avatar

IIRC it's a bit reactive too, something something inverse log of H+ or some such

doktorzoom's avatar

You know better. Not gonna pretend you have plausible deniability with that, either. Please review the rules.

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Villago Delenda Est  🇺🇦's avatar

But it's a legit word, Dok, in that context. OK, perhaps I should have made another choice.

doktorzoom's avatar

[Moderator side-eye intensifies]

Darth Trad's avatar

The USAF has been using bio-fuels and 'alternative fuels' for a lot longer than last week.

Fun fact: the technology some of this is based on - Fischer-Tropsch synthesis of methane, coal or even wood-waste - was used by the Nazi regime for warplanes.

John Lupien's avatar

Jet fuel per gallon: $1.70SAF per gallon: $13.50

What's the carbon cost of that ~$12.00 extra? I have to drive to work,they run the heat/AC while I'm there, plus the server farm and whatnot,even just my laptop has a carbon cost - this is an extra-phony thing tocrow about. Call me when it gets to $3.00 per gallon and I'll still laughabout it.

willi0000000's avatar

i was told there would be no math!

[ or maths if you're from the east side of the pond ]

@anathema_device@bne.social's avatar

"i know enough climate history to realize that our big threat is ice ages"

Well, the good news is that we've probably removed the threat of ice ages for a while. (Fun fact! Only one of the great extinctions of the past was likely caused by an ice age!)

The bad news is that you and I and other humans and a shit load of organisms on this planets do not operate well or at all outside a narrow band of temperatures because of little things called enzymes, and while we can turn on the air conditioner (for a bit anyway) those shit load of organisms largely *can't*, so the enzymes and proteins and everything that keeps them going tend to just go kablooey. These are not necessarily the same organisms as the ones who can't cope with acidic oceans or increased CO2 concentrations, who will also go kablooey

So in the near to short term, we are talking about severe food shortages, widespread extinction of now common creatures and plants on which we depend for, ya know, life, plummeting male fertility, increased pandemics from zoonoses, wars over water access, and at the absolute *least* a really hot and horrible environment for most human beings (most of whom can't just switch on the aircon).

The good news is that climate change is self-correcting. Eventually.

The bad news is that it will take longer than our species is likely to survive for this to happen.

"History" is only a few thousand years old. The kind of global changes which end species operate on a much longer time frame. Looks like we're the first species to cause *and* record one such event, and we'll probably end up being the last one too.

harryeagar's avatar

Acidic oceans? Really? You're sure of your assertions?

@anathema_device@bne.social's avatar

Yes, and of the science. Do you even understand how CO2 and water interact?https://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/o....

harryeagar's avatar

The ocean is alkaline and is going to always be alkaline. You have saved te world some time by demonstrating that your knowledge of science is nil.