Isn't it amazing that these Republicans, who are fully capable of telling you exactly what every Democrat thinks about every subject is always so absolutely clueless as to the thought processes of members of their own caucus.
Usually losing candidates don't get asked back. Dewey joins Adlai Stevenson, William Jennings Bryan, and Henry Clay in the select club of candidates who got major-party nominations and lost multiple times. Richard Nixon is the only losing candidate who won on a retry, unless you count Thomas Jefferson, who was given the Vice Presidency as a consolation prize for finishing #2 the first time, under rules that have since been changed.
Counterfactuals. They're reduced to pushing counterfactual history, that last resort of lazy comic-book writers. He should just wear a sign around his neck that says "We got nuthin'."
Whoops, you forgot to mention one teensy thing. After Ken Buck criticizes those lying about Jan 6, he added "I hope he [Speaker Mike Johnson] becomes more clear. I hope all of my Republican colleagues become more clear and recognize the fact that Joe Biden is an existential threat to this country. We need to defeat him, and we do that with someone who’s not lying to the country.”
Yeah but if I criticize everyone who thinks GOP will ever come to their senses or “become sane”, I’ll be writing a piece about President Biden or former Speaker Pelosi in no time too...
There might be, someday far in the future, a 24 hour period where I don't end up cursing Ronald Reagan's very existence. I honestly can't picture it though.
Reagan was able to get away with this shit because in 1980 it was considered unfathomable for a major POTUS candidate to screw with hostage negotiations for political gain. Nixon likely pulled a similar move in 1968 with the Vietnam War Peace Talks (through his emissary Marie Chennault) but this was never pursued even in 1973-74 during the Watergate hearings (Dems investigated him for everything else but never drilled down on whether Nixon had ratfucked the Paris Peace Talks). So the public largely was unaware of this, and 1980 comes around and of course Reagan's team wouldn't screw with the hostages, how could you think that?
Then it took over a decade for the truth to come out and by then everyone was "meh". Now here we are with Trump pulling treasons with none of the art and subtlety of Nixon or Reagan and you still have this institutional belief in the media and among voters that he couldn't possibly be doing the things his critics accused him of.
Lesson--prosecute the fuck out of these people when you can, because future players will take lessons from this.
OT: It's really disgusting seeing the Nazi Musk Rat parading around with Bibi on the scene, as if he has any answers or solutions or amounts to more than a rotten, runny, shit.
AntiSemite welcomed into Israel with open arms, y'all!
What is even worse is that an antisemite like Musk believes that his claims about Jews in America can be "offset" by patronizing Israel in this manner, much the way many Christianists do.
While we’re dishing out the truth about Reagan, let’s also remind repubs that he had Alzheimer’s while sitting in the White House. That’s your dementia prez.
One of my favorite Saturday Night Live skits was the one where Reagan was a doddering fool in public, and then when meeting with his advisors was this incredibly intelligent and competent person behind the scenes.
Andy Borowitz would often do similar things with Dubya. One "Report" had W. reading a scientific journal (something like Astrophysical Letters), and noting a minor error in one of the calculations..... Nothing that affected the results, but the authors were still grateful for his pointing it out so they could make the correction....
Ta, MM. Once again, I'm glad this is your job, not mine.
𝑌𝑜𝑢’𝑙𝑙 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑡𝑜 𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑗𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑒 𝑇𝑎𝑦𝑙𝑜𝑟 𝐺𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑛𝑒 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡.
Isn't it amazing that these Republicans, who are fully capable of telling you exactly what every Democrat thinks about every subject is always so absolutely clueless as to the thought processes of members of their own caucus.
Americans are the people who invented Magic Shell Ice Cream topping, Why can't we solve the Israel Palestine problem?
"these moments are illustrative of who Republicans are: Willing to let innocent Americans suffer for their own selfish advantage"
Add to that the story that they worked to keep the Vietnam war going in '68 to help Nixon get elected.
If Dewey had won in 1944 Japan would have kept at it until inauguration day 1949 at least.
Psst, that was '48.
Dewey was the GOP candidate in both the '44 and '48 elections
Thanks to you and others for straightening me out.
Usually losing candidates don't get asked back. Dewey joins Adlai Stevenson, William Jennings Bryan, and Henry Clay in the select club of candidates who got major-party nominations and lost multiple times. Richard Nixon is the only losing candidate who won on a retry, unless you count Thomas Jefferson, who was given the Vice Presidency as a consolation prize for finishing #2 the first time, under rules that have since been changed.
Dewey would have lost in 1948 for not ending the war but would have been president until noon January 20, 1949, Inauguration Day.
𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘋𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘥 𝘛𝘳𝘶𝘮𝘱...
Counterfactuals. They're reduced to pushing counterfactual history, that last resort of lazy comic-book writers. He should just wear a sign around his neck that says "We got nuthin'."
"they were so scared of what Ronald Reagan might do"
We all were, Tommy. We all were.
Reagan did not trade arms for hostages. He was actually trading arms for *sandwiches*
Sandwich. One sandwich. Worse yet it was a jailhouse "wish sandwich (mayo on white bread and you wish there was some type of meat in there sandwich)
Waddaya want, a rubber biscuit?
Oh man, I read that with the rolled R and everything!
"I finished the Guns for Toys thing, just like you said, Chief!"
"You idiot, that was supposed to be TOYS for GUNS!"
"Uh-oh, Spaghetti-Os!"
Whoops, you forgot to mention one teensy thing. After Ken Buck criticizes those lying about Jan 6, he added "I hope he [Speaker Mike Johnson] becomes more clear. I hope all of my Republican colleagues become more clear and recognize the fact that Joe Biden is an existential threat to this country. We need to defeat him, and we do that with someone who’s not lying to the country.”
Yeah, real objectivity there.
Yeah but if I criticize everyone who thinks GOP will ever come to their senses or “become sane”, I’ll be writing a piece about President Biden or former Speaker Pelosi in no time too...
Rethuglifascists: “Willing to let innocent Americans suffer for our own selfish advantage.”(™️)
Feature, not a bug.
Fucking fifth columnists.
There might be, someday far in the future, a 24 hour period where I don't end up cursing Ronald Reagan's very existence. I honestly can't picture it though.
IK,R? With all this renewed interest in Reagan, *spits* I’m running out of spit.
I feel like "Listen, you fucking asshole" is a phrase more moderators should use on these chat shows.
"Senator Cotton, you ignorant slut..."
You left out “ignorant”.
Good catch
Reagan was able to get away with this shit because in 1980 it was considered unfathomable for a major POTUS candidate to screw with hostage negotiations for political gain. Nixon likely pulled a similar move in 1968 with the Vietnam War Peace Talks (through his emissary Marie Chennault) but this was never pursued even in 1973-74 during the Watergate hearings (Dems investigated him for everything else but never drilled down on whether Nixon had ratfucked the Paris Peace Talks). So the public largely was unaware of this, and 1980 comes around and of course Reagan's team wouldn't screw with the hostages, how could you think that?
Then it took over a decade for the truth to come out and by then everyone was "meh". Now here we are with Trump pulling treasons with none of the art and subtlety of Nixon or Reagan and you still have this institutional belief in the media and among voters that he couldn't possibly be doing the things his critics accused him of.
Lesson--prosecute the fuck out of these people when you can, because future players will take lessons from this.
Amen.
"we can't prosecute them *now* ... it would be too decisive!"
"Lesson--prosecute the fuck out of these people when you can, because future players will take lessons from this." Preach, Brando, preach.
I like how they gloss right over the Bushes. Straight from Saint Ronald 🤢 to a spineless coward’s idea of a strongman, PAB 🤡.
The bushes have been effectively memory holed
George W. Bush never served as President. 2001-2005 was Bill Clinton's third term, and 2005-2009 was Barack Obama's pre-term.
I remember the exact day George W. Bush stopped blaming Bill Clinton for all his fuckups. It was January 20, 2009.
Wasn't that also when Joan was Pope?
OT: It's really disgusting seeing the Nazi Musk Rat parading around with Bibi on the scene, as if he has any answers or solutions or amounts to more than a rotten, runny, shit.
AntiSemite welcomed into Israel with open arms, y'all!
That's 𝐛𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐢𝐫𝐞 AntiSemite.
What is even worse is that an antisemite like Musk believes that his claims about Jews in America can be "offset" by patronizing Israel in this manner, much the way many Christianists do.
While we’re dishing out the truth about Reagan, let’s also remind repubs that he had Alzheimer’s while sitting in the White House. That’s your dementia prez.
But Nancy consulted with the White House Astrological Advisor and so everything was good.
And he fell asleep during national security meetings and everybody just shrugged.
So what? It's not like he was running the country.
One of my favorite Saturday Night Live skits was the one where Reagan was a doddering fool in public, and then when meeting with his advisors was this incredibly intelligent and competent person behind the scenes.
Phil Hartman as Reagan. He was so good on SNL.
Andy Borowitz would often do similar things with Dubya. One "Report" had W. reading a scientific journal (something like Astrophysical Letters), and noting a minor error in one of the calculations..... Nothing that affected the results, but the authors were still grateful for his pointing it out so they could make the correction....