Imagine being so fucked up by capitalism that you literally can't conceive of a model for education but a monetary transaction.
Education is a public good. If we take it as a social investment, professors can still get paid but it would no longer be barred to the filthy poors whom you think should have to render service to earn it.
Or how about we just let people get an education? Putting strings on it effectively makes education the purview of the moneyed classes and that's fucked.
Like.. why are you so mad about people getting debt relief? "MOST OF THEM DON'T NEED IT!" Firstly that's not true. The generation with the most student debt is also leagues behind their predecessors in things like getting a house and being able to afford families. They do need it. Second, even if it were: So what? Mind your own business.
The beauty of this is that Mr. Frank Garrison gets his loans forgiven by the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program because he works for a bogus non-profit law firm. That program is supposed to support public school teachers in poor neighborhoods and public defenders. If we fund the IRS more maybe they can begin to crack down on these 401-3-Cs? When Betsy DeVos was in charge they did everything possible to make sure that no ones loans were discharged under the PSLF and it is one of the things Biden has fixed.
I paid my way through college, paid off the small loan I took out my last semester because I couldn't stand being that broke any more, and it took years to pay it off. I now work in a profession which would allow me to pay off that much debt in a month, and which also allows me to make a difference in the lives of others. I am thrilled for the people who are getting some help with that debt burden in the early years of establishing themselves in a new work field while they are recovering from having their income reduced by years spent going to school. These are also often the years when people have a young family. Now we just have to figure out how to make college affordable for those who want to go and are ready to handle the work load, regardless of their income. A well-educated country is a better place for everyone to live.
I think you have some good points here. Maybe another aspect of this should be that schools that run primarily off of loans should be scrutinized more carefully. If their source of funding dries up, the predatory `schools' that promise worthless certificates to people desperate to better their lives would also dry up and go away. Or maybe even better themselves?
He’s claiming to be eligible for public service loan forgiveness, which wipes out your entire debt after something like 20 years of working in a public service role (but you still have to make monthly payments until then). So his claim is that forgiving $20k in his loans now doesn’t help him, because he’ll still have exactly the same monthly payment until his loans are totally forgiven.
Of course, all of that may be true, but the fact that he is not obligated to accept the offered $20k forgiveness completely kills his argument.
They might just enjoy other people's sufferings!
"I got mine now I want yours!"
You still haven’t given a good reason to oppose this for the people who make less than that.
"If they're getting loan forgiveness I want a PONYYYYY!"
I am a bit puzzled why you think the debt forgiveness programme is a vote-loser for Democrats?
Imagine being so fucked up by capitalism that you literally can't conceive of a model for education but a monetary transaction.
Education is a public good. If we take it as a social investment, professors can still get paid but it would no longer be barred to the filthy poors whom you think should have to render service to earn it.
https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
Or how about we just let people get an education? Putting strings on it effectively makes education the purview of the moneyed classes and that's fucked.
Like.. why are you so mad about people getting debt relief? "MOST OF THEM DON'T NEED IT!" Firstly that's not true. The generation with the most student debt is also leagues behind their predecessors in things like getting a house and being able to afford families. They do need it. Second, even if it were: So what? Mind your own business.
The beauty of this is that Mr. Frank Garrison gets his loans forgiven by the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program because he works for a bogus non-profit law firm. That program is supposed to support public school teachers in poor neighborhoods and public defenders. If we fund the IRS more maybe they can begin to crack down on these 401-3-Cs? When Betsy DeVos was in charge they did everything possible to make sure that no ones loans were discharged under the PSLF and it is one of the things Biden has fixed.
"a $20,000 reduction in his total indebtedness will not change either his monthly payment obligation or the total amount of the loans he must repay."
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems like the only way that could possibly be true is if the amount he owes is exactly infinity.
Where is their patriotism?
I paid my way through college, paid off the small loan I took out my last semester because I couldn't stand being that broke any more, and it took years to pay it off. I now work in a profession which would allow me to pay off that much debt in a month, and which also allows me to make a difference in the lives of others. I am thrilled for the people who are getting some help with that debt burden in the early years of establishing themselves in a new work field while they are recovering from having their income reduced by years spent going to school. These are also often the years when people have a young family. Now we just have to figure out how to make college affordable for those who want to go and are ready to handle the work load, regardless of their income. A well-educated country is a better place for everyone to live.
I think you have some good points here. Maybe another aspect of this should be that schools that run primarily off of loans should be scrutinized more carefully. If their source of funding dries up, the predatory `schools' that promise worthless certificates to people desperate to better their lives would also dry up and go away. Or maybe even better themselves?
He’s claiming to be eligible for public service loan forgiveness, which wipes out your entire debt after something like 20 years of working in a public service role (but you still have to make monthly payments until then). So his claim is that forgiving $20k in his loans now doesn’t help him, because he’ll still have exactly the same monthly payment until his loans are totally forgiven.
Of course, all of that may be true, but the fact that he is not obligated to accept the offered $20k forgiveness completely kills his argument.
I'm told that Yemen is about as lawless (errr...) "Libertarian" as it gets.
To deny them NASCAR at Buffalo Wild Wings is just like murder!
I'm not entirely sure that "Garrison" is a real person, and until I see a picture of him that doesn't look like a stock photo, I won't change my mind.