>>>"There's still a chance Trudeau and the Liberal Party (our Democrats, as the name suggests) might turn the ship around before the next election"<<<
You don't know the Liberals very well. Just like the Dems, they fuck the country sideways but do it while saying things about diversity, etc., blah blah. Good cop to the far-right bad cop, but both working for the police. Still, it's fuckloads better than the US -- which I happily left in 2005.
There really is nowhere to run from authoritarian fascism. That's kind of the problem.
What's to stop Trump from simply attacking/invading any country you run to for safety anyway? Or the same thing spilling over from a neighbor or the terrorism coming from inside the house?
Nothing. If it's bad enough, it will eventually find it's way to you. There's not men big enough or walls thick enough that you can hide behind and go back to "Normal Life" and forget about the fascism.
Because, let's be honest, that's what this "move to Canada" (it's called "immigrating" when it's another country, FYI) is about. It's about hiding out somewhere and hoping someone else fixes it, and while they are busy with that, you put your blinders back on and go back to whatever you were doing in 2014.
Speaking of people who were going to flee the country, who remembers Ted Nugent?
He said that if Barack Obama was elected, he expected to be shot.
He seems to still be alive and whining, but hasn't explained his grand reasoning behind that theory.
I'm hoping for the flip side...angry Trumpetoons and MAGAts fleeing the United States after the 2024 election to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom, firmly believing that those nations are perfect libertarian republics where they can behave like the jerks they are.
Then they wake up and discover those countries have stern law on hate speech, gun control, and citizens of all of those nations are also subjects of HM King Charles III, by Grace of God, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. In other words, they're Constitutional Monarchies.
I hadn’t thought seriously about moving to Canada since the late ‘60s when Vietnam was a thing and the draft was still in effect. The lottery had just started and my boyfriend and now husband had drawn 19. He was for certain going. Somehow, he managed to get into aa National Guard unit on the Island.
Of course, all bets were off when the Vulgar Talking Yam won in 2016, but we were that much more established then. We do have a friend who’s willing to sponsor us, but I’m too old (I think) to pull up stakes at this point.
I cannot read his name any other way, and the 'shoe', I mean hat fits! yes, he says so many awful things, I did love when the profession he belongs to told Peterson to stop saying garbage in their name.
The NDP (New Democratic Party) is not "uh, hard to explain". We are a left-progressive party in a land of corporatist stooges and puppets. I'll keep voting for them until I croak, but hope is fading that the electorate will ever stop believing that Bay Street always knows best.
I attended university in Canada. In the prairies no doubt. It was still an improvement over the US South in many ways. However, a friend I still talk to the says it has gotten much worse in the past 20ish years. Still, it's not easy to move there at all unless you're rich, have a job skill no Canadian has, or are marrying a Canadian. The average middle class American that is already married doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting through Canadian immigration. Hell when I was on a student visa, I wasn't even allowed to get a part time job (that changed 2 years after I gave up and moved back to the States). Better to look into places that are dealing with population decline and are actively seeking immigrants.
Americans seem to think Canada wants us. As far as I can tell it’s only easy to go there if you’re able to fill specific jobs in areas where it’s hard to get people (think - your new life as a nurse or teacher in Yellowknife).
We are considering leaving but it’s easier when you have parents born in a country that grants you automatic citizenship (kind of shockingly easy).
Canadian here. You won't be hearing sexy French accents unless you're in Quebec and some parts of Eastern Ontario. And no you won't get gravy and cheese curds on your fries unless you specifically order Poutine, which is fairly uncommon in Western Canada. You will, however, find the best and cheapest sushi on the West Coast and that's one of the main reasons to live there.
The French accent is more sexy when the words are English. You won't find it as cool when you have six months to learn how to understand it in French to be able to access any government services (even as an Historical Anglo, it's getting iffy).
I once met a lovely French-Canadian nun on a Canadian Regional flight from Calgary to Saskatoon. She had a lovely accent. She sang and played acoustic guitar during the flight even. I don't think I'd call it a sexy accent though, being she was a nun and all.
My Canadian co-workers have been warning me for a few years that the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side of the border. They are largely based in Alberta and their conservative nutjobs are only a little behind ours in terms of nonsense. The biggest difference is that they aren't nearly as heavily armed — a cold comfort if there ever was one.
That being said, I've asked a couple co-workers to keep a spot on the couch open for me in case of emergency.
Hubs and I were so mindfucked after that lying degenerate CaliguBu$h's 2004 re-coronation that we went as far meeting with an immigration attorney and a customs house. They were doing brisk business and holding seminars on the Left Coast. It would've been an easy move for us, and we could've afforded a decent house in Burnaby or New Westminster. Those $400K houses are $2 million now.
Ultimately, we decided to stay and thought that Bamz's election and re-election would heal America. Hoo boy, and then the Republinazi Party shat out Dotard Judas Tr666p. We fucked up.
Now we're planning to move to a small town in Mexico, which is incredibly affordable, however we won't have enough saved to move until fall 2026 at the earliest. Hope we don't end up in a Republinazi concentration camp before then!!!
We found Ajijic and the lovely towns around Lake Chapala just south of Guadalajara. There is a huge American and Canadian expat community there, which will make for a "soft landing" after getting over the initial shock of moving to a foreign country.
The Lake Chapala Society is a unique, one-stop shop of resources for moving to the area, contributing to the community, activities, and making friends.
2) Find the section insert where the crossword puzzles are
3) Fold the insert so the crosswords are showing
4) Attach folded insert to my clipboard
5) Toss remaining paper into recycling bin
6) Go to newspaper's website to read news
7) PROFIT! (And solve the crosswords, of course)
Hey, if I could get them to deliver only the crosswords, I'd have 'em do it, and save the paper. I'd even try to get them not to deliver a physical paper and just print out the crosswords from their website. It'd be rude to throw away crosswords that the press so eagerly send to me, though, so whaddya gonna do?
One perk--since my paper is delivered by the USPS, I get a portion of Sunday's hardcopy newspaper on Saturday, which, happily, includes *ta da!* the Sunday crosswords. And the rest goes to line the bottom of Jasper's terrarium.
And speaking of cruciverbalism, I have today's and--well, look at this--Sunday's crosswords to solve.
Take care, be safe, don't take insurance when the dealer shows an ace, and, for God's sake, Klinger, shave your back (IYKYK). Jocularity, jocularity. Niters.
Backwards? We’re backwards, Andrew? I’ll have you know most of our politicians here in the flatlands are not backwards, they’re inside out from sticking their heads so far up their own butts, TYVM!
Oh boy ain’t that the truth! It’s an election year and I dearly hope we can boot the fuggers out but I’m realistic. I live in a riding repping far more than the maximum allowable and the parents live in one far below the minimum. Moe’s got a lock because us folks in the cities are so underrepresented it’s a joke. Someone in this thread called us Canada’s Nebraska but with electoral boundaries we’re Texas.
>>>"There's still a chance Trudeau and the Liberal Party (our Democrats, as the name suggests) might turn the ship around before the next election"<<<
You don't know the Liberals very well. Just like the Dems, they fuck the country sideways but do it while saying things about diversity, etc., blah blah. Good cop to the far-right bad cop, but both working for the police. Still, it's fuckloads better than the US -- which I happily left in 2005.
There really is nowhere to run from authoritarian fascism. That's kind of the problem.
What's to stop Trump from simply attacking/invading any country you run to for safety anyway? Or the same thing spilling over from a neighbor or the terrorism coming from inside the house?
Nothing. If it's bad enough, it will eventually find it's way to you. There's not men big enough or walls thick enough that you can hide behind and go back to "Normal Life" and forget about the fascism.
Because, let's be honest, that's what this "move to Canada" (it's called "immigrating" when it's another country, FYI) is about. It's about hiding out somewhere and hoping someone else fixes it, and while they are busy with that, you put your blinders back on and go back to whatever you were doing in 2014.
Speaking of people who were going to flee the country, who remembers Ted Nugent?
He said that if Barack Obama was elected, he expected to be shot.
He seems to still be alive and whining, but hasn't explained his grand reasoning behind that theory.
I'm hoping for the flip side...angry Trumpetoons and MAGAts fleeing the United States after the 2024 election to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom, firmly believing that those nations are perfect libertarian republics where they can behave like the jerks they are.
Then they wake up and discover those countries have stern law on hate speech, gun control, and citizens of all of those nations are also subjects of HM King Charles III, by Grace of God, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. In other words, they're Constitutional Monarchies.
I hadn’t thought seriously about moving to Canada since the late ‘60s when Vietnam was a thing and the draft was still in effect. The lottery had just started and my boyfriend and now husband had drawn 19. He was for certain going. Somehow, he managed to get into aa National Guard unit on the Island.
Of course, all bets were off when the Vulgar Talking Yam won in 2016, but we were that much more established then. We do have a friend who’s willing to sponsor us, but I’m too old (I think) to pull up stakes at this point.
I cannot read his name any other way, and the 'shoe', I mean hat fits! yes, he says so many awful things, I did love when the profession he belongs to told Peterson to stop saying garbage in their name.
The NDP (New Democratic Party) is not "uh, hard to explain". We are a left-progressive party in a land of corporatist stooges and puppets. I'll keep voting for them until I croak, but hope is fading that the electorate will ever stop believing that Bay Street always knows best.
Fair. Just a bit beyond the scope of this particular post.
I attended university in Canada. In the prairies no doubt. It was still an improvement over the US South in many ways. However, a friend I still talk to the says it has gotten much worse in the past 20ish years. Still, it's not easy to move there at all unless you're rich, have a job skill no Canadian has, or are marrying a Canadian. The average middle class American that is already married doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting through Canadian immigration. Hell when I was on a student visa, I wasn't even allowed to get a part time job (that changed 2 years after I gave up and moved back to the States). Better to look into places that are dealing with population decline and are actively seeking immigrants.
Rules on foreign students working just changed again since Covid. Is now not the same level of issue at all.
But the numbers of foreign students allowed in are being cut drastically.
Americans seem to think Canada wants us. As far as I can tell it’s only easy to go there if you’re able to fill specific jobs in areas where it’s hard to get people (think - your new life as a nurse or teacher in Yellowknife).
We are considering leaving but it’s easier when you have parents born in a country that grants you automatic citizenship (kind of shockingly easy).
Canadian here. You won't be hearing sexy French accents unless you're in Quebec and some parts of Eastern Ontario. And no you won't get gravy and cheese curds on your fries unless you specifically order Poutine, which is fairly uncommon in Western Canada. You will, however, find the best and cheapest sushi on the West Coast and that's one of the main reasons to live there.
The French accent is more sexy when the words are English. You won't find it as cool when you have six months to learn how to understand it in French to be able to access any government services (even as an Historical Anglo, it's getting iffy).
I once met a lovely French-Canadian nun on a Canadian Regional flight from Calgary to Saskatoon. She had a lovely accent. She sang and played acoustic guitar during the flight even. I don't think I'd call it a sexy accent though, being she was a nun and all.
My Canadian co-workers have been warning me for a few years that the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side of the border. They are largely based in Alberta and their conservative nutjobs are only a little behind ours in terms of nonsense. The biggest difference is that they aren't nearly as heavily armed — a cold comfort if there ever was one.
That being said, I've asked a couple co-workers to keep a spot on the couch open for me in case of emergency.
My target is Norway. I want to return to my ancestral home/farm, and reclaim what is rightly mine.
Which is pretty much some nice fields and a few cows.
But hey, it beats rusty-Mussolini any day.
It's also easier to move there, since they are actively encouraging immigration.
Normay. It’s Normay. Not an s-hole country.
Praise Odin.
Who can afford Canada?
Hubs and I were so mindfucked after that lying degenerate CaliguBu$h's 2004 re-coronation that we went as far meeting with an immigration attorney and a customs house. They were doing brisk business and holding seminars on the Left Coast. It would've been an easy move for us, and we could've afforded a decent house in Burnaby or New Westminster. Those $400K houses are $2 million now.
Ultimately, we decided to stay and thought that Bamz's election and re-election would heal America. Hoo boy, and then the Republinazi Party shat out Dotard Judas Tr666p. We fucked up.
Now we're planning to move to a small town in Mexico, which is incredibly affordable, however we won't have enough saved to move until fall 2026 at the earliest. Hope we don't end up in a Republinazi concentration camp before then!!!
Why small town, Veracruz is beautiful and super affordable?
We found Ajijic and the lovely towns around Lake Chapala just south of Guadalajara. There is a huge American and Canadian expat community there, which will make for a "soft landing" after getting over the initial shock of moving to a foreign country.
The Lake Chapala Society is a unique, one-stop shop of resources for moving to the area, contributing to the community, activities, and making friends.
https://lakechapalasociety.com/public/
You will now that you said that!
;-)
well, I slept through most of Saturday and managed to get through the storm intact.
Have a photo https://substack.com/profile/155706872-mateo-del-sol/note/c-46786885?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=2kpc6w
Hope your Sunday is easy.
Ironic. This is the second time in my life that Canada seemed like the only option.
How I read my daily newspaper:
1) Open newspaper
2) Find the section insert where the crossword puzzles are
3) Fold the insert so the crosswords are showing
4) Attach folded insert to my clipboard
5) Toss remaining paper into recycling bin
6) Go to newspaper's website to read news
7) PROFIT! (And solve the crosswords, of course)
Hey, if I could get them to deliver only the crosswords, I'd have 'em do it, and save the paper. I'd even try to get them not to deliver a physical paper and just print out the crosswords from their website. It'd be rude to throw away crosswords that the press so eagerly send to me, though, so whaddya gonna do?
One perk--since my paper is delivered by the USPS, I get a portion of Sunday's hardcopy newspaper on Saturday, which, happily, includes *ta da!* the Sunday crosswords. And the rest goes to line the bottom of Jasper's terrarium.
And speaking of cruciverbalism, I have today's and--well, look at this--Sunday's crosswords to solve.
Take care, be safe, don't take insurance when the dealer shows an ace, and, for God's sake, Klinger, shave your back (IYKYK). Jocularity, jocularity. Niters.
I got 93% percent of that.
Cheers.
I sometimes am a little cryptic, but the people here are so sharp, they catch a good portion of my references.
Cheers.
Oh right, Jamie Farr! I just now got that. Swarthy man, that.
The line is from "Margaret's Marriage", as the bachelor party breaks up:
Klinger: Oh! I gotta go. I'm wearing a morning frock for the wedding. I better shave my back! (he leaves)
Hawkeye (slightly inebriated): Yeah, for God's sake, Klinger, shave your back.
Backwards? We’re backwards, Andrew? I’ll have you know most of our politicians here in the flatlands are not backwards, they’re inside out from sticking their heads so far up their own butts, TYVM!
The political leadership in Saskatchewan has long had their heads lost deep inside their cavernous backsides. Since at least the 1990s.
For some reason, I read ‘cavernous’ as carnivorous.
I think I need a bit of a lie-down.
Oh boy ain’t that the truth! It’s an election year and I dearly hope we can boot the fuggers out but I’m realistic. I live in a riding repping far more than the maximum allowable and the parents live in one far below the minimum. Moe’s got a lock because us folks in the cities are so underrepresented it’s a joke. Someone in this thread called us Canada’s Nebraska but with electoral boundaries we’re Texas.
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