He had an RX for medical pot, which he got busted for. I do not know if either checked to see if pot was legal to be brought in to Russia. In some countries bringing in almost any amount of pot is a serious crime.
I do too, and have for the last 20+ years. Perhaps they've change the forumula, but yea... people were arrested for it, and a few did go to jail. Though, when I think of it, a better example would have been carrying firearms (or even bullets), letal in most parts of the US, certainly in some of the states bordering Mexico.
I'm one of those peole who questions whether imprisonment is necessary for just about anything, so yeah... good she was released... though what bothers me (and bothers me immensely) is the assumption that as an "American", she doesn't have to follow the laws of the country in which she finds herself. As you and I know, there are a lot of US citizens here who get themselves in trouble for thinking that. While I don't give a shit whether or not people use marijuana, medical or otherwise, you would think that everyone is aware that most of the world does not think the same way about it. And, one would assume her coach, or whoever was responsible for organizing this trip to Russia would have had the sense to tell people NOT to piss off the Russians.
A second thing... that I hadn't thought of, but I saw mentioned by some (presuably right-wing pundit type -- he used terms like "Democrat Party" for "Democratic Party" and sort of spit out the name "Biden" as if it was a swear word -- so I take it with a large grain of salt.... wondered if the drama and negotiations around her release didn't have more to do with A) Russian (and other country's) rejectin of the US policy of "universal jurisdiction" under which Bout was being held, and B) just the convient fact that thiis particular prisoner happened to be a mamber of two minorities generally more favorable to the Democratic Party. I think there's something to part A, though dubious about part B, though it certainly played into the media coverage of the incident.
No dobut they threw the book at her... but then again, persons who don't speak the language of the court, from an unfriendly country, and from a visible minority ... tend to get the harsher sentences everywhere. Sucks, I know, but not out of the ordinary.
But not for the at least two other persons doing about the same time for the same crime. If this hadn{t been blown up by the media and turned into a political issue, i sense early realase and deportation might have been arranged. Alll prisons suck, and of couse, there are better ways of dealing with crime (or what a particular state considers a crime), but again, it just came down to another American abroad assuming everyone else in the word does things our way.
He and his wife traveled around the world for years. Rebecca says he is in trouble because of the amount, but I would think he would have known Russia's laws.
Getting Brittney Griner out is not wrong. Only getting Griner out is wrong. I think not paying attention to such a similar situation is wrong. It's like workers being pissed off union workers getting $5 more per hour. The solution isn't to cut the union wages, it's to increase pay for EVERYONE.
Of course those guns do...at least 80% accroding to the last stats I've seen... but where the purchase was legal. SAnd more than once, we've had people tossed in the slammer for "accidentally" bringing them in. Best one I remember was the guy planning to drive thru to Costa Rica in his camper with a shotgun in the back. He was somewhat symapthic, not very bright, apparently with PTSD from his service in Afganistan, that made the news here mostly because his family had $$ and got some Flordia congressioal represetnative. The Sudafed incident I that I recall was aboout ten years back...something I had picked up from reporting in their lcal paper (from Google notifications I'd get back then when I was writing regularly on Mexico-US events for a small website I maintained).. utah, if I recall, though like local papers that write these kinds of stories, the usual claims of abuse and shakedowns for bribes, etc.
thanks again to the good Dok! I plan to use this flowchart in a variety of settings
He had an RX for medical pot, which he got busted for. I do not know if either checked to see if pot was legal to be brought in to Russia. In some countries bringing in almost any amount of pot is a serious crime.
Jamie Farr served in the Army. AND HE WAS SENT TO KOREA! The dog-tags he wears are his own from that service.
That's my point.
I do too, and have for the last 20+ years. Perhaps they've change the forumula, but yea... people were arrested for it, and a few did go to jail. Though, when I think of it, a better example would have been carrying firearms (or even bullets), letal in most parts of the US, certainly in some of the states bordering Mexico.
I'm one of those peole who questions whether imprisonment is necessary for just about anything, so yeah... good she was released... though what bothers me (and bothers me immensely) is the assumption that as an "American", she doesn't have to follow the laws of the country in which she finds herself. As you and I know, there are a lot of US citizens here who get themselves in trouble for thinking that. While I don't give a shit whether or not people use marijuana, medical or otherwise, you would think that everyone is aware that most of the world does not think the same way about it. And, one would assume her coach, or whoever was responsible for organizing this trip to Russia would have had the sense to tell people NOT to piss off the Russians.
A second thing... that I hadn't thought of, but I saw mentioned by some (presuably right-wing pundit type -- he used terms like "Democrat Party" for "Democratic Party" and sort of spit out the name "Biden" as if it was a swear word -- so I take it with a large grain of salt.... wondered if the drama and negotiations around her release didn't have more to do with A) Russian (and other country's) rejectin of the US policy of "universal jurisdiction" under which Bout was being held, and B) just the convient fact that thiis particular prisoner happened to be a mamber of two minorities generally more favorable to the Democratic Party. I think there's something to part A, though dubious about part B, though it certainly played into the media coverage of the incident.
No dobut they threw the book at her... but then again, persons who don't speak the language of the court, from an unfriendly country, and from a visible minority ... tend to get the harsher sentences everywhere. Sucks, I know, but not out of the ordinary.
But not for the at least two other persons doing about the same time for the same crime. If this hadn{t been blown up by the media and turned into a political issue, i sense early realase and deportation might have been arranged. Alll prisons suck, and of couse, there are better ways of dealing with crime (or what a particular state considers a crime), but again, it just came down to another American abroad assuming everyone else in the word does things our way.
And shortly before they invaded Ukraine? Quite the coincidence.
He and his wife traveled around the world for years. Rebecca says he is in trouble because of the amount, but I would think he would have known Russia's laws.
Getting Brittney Griner out is not wrong. Only getting Griner out is wrong. I think not paying attention to such a similar situation is wrong. It's like workers being pissed off union workers getting $5 more per hour. The solution isn't to cut the union wages, it's to increase pay for EVERYONE.
Fascinating how no one ever seems to want to take this into account and just assumes she bought it herself.
John Wayne was absolute garbage, a a coward, a racist and a shit excuse for a human being.
Yes, the ONLY reasonable sentence would have been 30 days, expulsion and persona non grata status.
Of course those guns do...at least 80% accroding to the last stats I've seen... but where the purchase was legal. SAnd more than once, we've had people tossed in the slammer for "accidentally" bringing them in. Best one I remember was the guy planning to drive thru to Costa Rica in his camper with a shotgun in the back. He was somewhat symapthic, not very bright, apparently with PTSD from his service in Afganistan, that made the news here mostly because his family had $$ and got some Flordia congressioal represetnative. The Sudafed incident I that I recall was aboout ten years back...something I had picked up from reporting in their lcal paper (from Google notifications I'd get back then when I was writing regularly on Mexico-US events for a small website I maintained).. utah, if I recall, though like local papers that write these kinds of stories, the usual claims of abuse and shakedowns for bribes, etc.
He did a little trolling.