It is a day ending with "day," so obviously it is time for Elizabeth Warren to open her shrill harpy yammerbox and yell at some poor soul just doing his or her job. Who is getting "the business" today? Is it the bankers? Is it the people who are supposed to be
Not to horn in. Well, yes, to horn in. If you fuckers put together a drinky and/or astro thing, give me a couple days notice. Or, if you give me a couple weeks notice so I can clean up, I'm 24 miles from the Yosemite park entrance.
I might quibble about software engineering, but it's really just a matter of definition of terms. Coding should definitely be taught as a trade. This would lead to better programmers, for one thing.
Mid-range software engineering could also be learned on a apprentice system or trade school, as these days it's mostly finding and adapting well-established design patterns. Have to remember, though, that an apprentice system requires that the journeymen and masters have to devote a significant fraction of their time to training.
Large-scale software engineering seems to me to require a broad familiarity with moderately advanced math (graph theory, statistics, grammars, abstract computational models). I think this requires an academic framework to learn effectively. But I am old -- maybe a combination of online exercises and mentoring would work.
Now, I have a question. You mention that a Phoenix degree is "jeered at". Is that because the programming training is felt to be inadequate, or because the notion of a Phoenix B.S. in SW Engineering is absurd? I have a nephew who is trying to figure out how to proceed. Generally, to get an initial job, you have to have some kind of credential (or a family connection, which I'm working on, but cannot guarantee). Do you have a recommendation as to what would be a good credential?
I'm ten years out of business, and mostly I employed DSP guys with experience, so I don't have any personal knowledge of what people look for in a rookie software person.
meanwhile, other countries use tax moneez to give their kids free college. so our kids get to fall further and further behind, because short term profiteering for banksters trumps long term scholastic competitiveness
<i>&quot;she inquired why the student lender was borrowing from taxpayers at &ldquo;0.23%-0.34%&rdquo; interest when it has been charging students&rdquo;25-40 times higher&rdquo; on fixed-rate education loans. </i>
What incompetent management they have. Visa and MasterCard charge 100-150 times the rate! (Zombie Al Capone just looks on in awe.)
You know what the difference is? The US allows banksters to act as middlemen, between the essentially free gubmint money and the students who need it. The scientific term is &quot;parasites.&quot;
ha! that&#039;s the attitude peeps in my biz have for the trade school wonders. Lots of those students at Full Sail or other audio engineering schools walk out the front door to the nearest sound company and say &quot;hire me, I&#039;m ready to mix lady GaGa or U2&quot;. Umm, no kid, see that 500lb piece of cable covered in mud, vomit and stale urine? Clean it off, wrap it up and push the 800lb box it goes in into the back of the truck with the rest of the boxes. Once you have enough brains/experience/seniority to get someone else to do that task, we&#039;ll consider letting you touch the console...
I prefer to make no restrictions, yammer or otherwise.
Can you clarify the difference?
Ah, once again the Invisible Hand of the Market has its thumb on the scales.
Not to horn in. Well, yes, to horn in. If you fuckers put together a drinky and/or astro thing, give me a couple days notice. Or, if you give me a couple weeks notice so I can clean up, I&#039;m 24 miles from the Yosemite park entrance.
I might quibble about software engineering, but it&#039;s really just a matter of definition of terms. Coding should definitely be taught as a trade. This would lead to better programmers, for one thing.
Mid-range software engineering could also be learned on a apprentice system or trade school, as these days it&#039;s mostly finding and adapting well-established design patterns. Have to remember, though, that an apprentice system requires that the journeymen and masters have to devote a significant fraction of their time to training.
Large-scale software engineering seems to me to require a broad familiarity with moderately advanced math (graph theory, statistics, grammars, abstract computational models). I think this requires an academic framework to learn effectively. But I am old -- maybe a combination of online exercises and mentoring would work.
Now, I have a question. You mention that a Phoenix degree is &quot;jeered at&quot;. Is that because the programming training is felt to be inadequate, or because the notion of a Phoenix B.S. in SW Engineering is absurd? I have a nephew who is trying to figure out how to proceed. Generally, to get an initial job, you have to have some kind of credential (or a family connection, which I&#039;m working on, but cannot guarantee). Do you have a recommendation as to what would be a good credential?
I&#039;m ten years out of business, and mostly I employed DSP guys with experience, so I don&#039;t have any personal knowledge of what people look for in a rookie software person.
You say that like it would be a bad thing.
(Note: occasionally)
That sentence is far more complex, and grammatically correct, than any FOXNews watcher could manage.
meanwhile, other countries use tax moneez to give their kids free college. so our kids get to fall further and further behind, because short term profiteering for banksters trumps long term scholastic competitiveness
either one is preferable to college being a fairytale that is reserved for the spawn of the one percent
<i>&quot;she inquired why the student lender was borrowing from taxpayers at &ldquo;0.23%-0.34%&rdquo; interest when it has been charging students&rdquo;25-40 times higher&rdquo; on fixed-rate education loans. </i>
What incompetent management they have. Visa and MasterCard charge 100-150 times the rate! (Zombie Al Capone just looks on in awe.)
You know what the difference is? The US allows banksters to act as middlemen, between the essentially free gubmint money and the students who need it. The scientific term is &quot;parasites.&quot;
ha! that&#039;s the attitude peeps in my biz have for the trade school wonders. Lots of those students at Full Sail or other audio engineering schools walk out the front door to the nearest sound company and say &quot;hire me, I&#039;m ready to mix lady GaGa or U2&quot;. Umm, no kid, see that 500lb piece of cable covered in mud, vomit and stale urine? Clean it off, wrap it up and push the 800lb box it goes in into the back of the truck with the rest of the boxes. Once you have enough brains/experience/seniority to get someone else to do that task, we&#039;ll consider letting you touch the console...
&#039;put a gun to the head of the Economy and shoot it&quot;
don&#039;t laugh, that&#039;s next
I fail to see how this will redound to the benefit of bankers.
Education is still free, or nominally so, in Italy. All the way through med or law school.
I want to have her baby.
And my wife may even go along with it.