This guy sounds like he might have been defective from birth. Crazy violent grandfather Lots of family suicides. Abusive to his disabled mom growing up. Learning difficulties that made him socially weird. No consistent therapy or medication for his schizophrenic tendencies.
When he was in high school, his class went on a trip to Dachau death camp, and he acted as if he was in Disneyland. He said, "This is where the magic happened." That was the time for massive intervention.
There's a horrible irony here. This guy doesn't have a clue that genuine Nazis would have offed him for his mental illness and his lousy genes.
i kept responding to everything he said with lyrics from that "My Milk Shake Brings All of the Boys to the Yard" song - reduced him to total incoherence (not that is really saying much)
"For every Southern boy fourteen years old, not once but whenever he wants it, there is the instant when it's still not yet two oclock on that July afternoon in 1863, the brigades are in position behind the rail fence, the guns are laid and ready in the woods and the furled flags are already loosened to break out and Pickett himself with his long oiled ringlets and his hat in one hand probably and his sword in the other looking up the hill waiting for Longstreet to give the word and it's all in the balance, it hasn't happened yet, it hasn't even begun yet, it not only hasn't begun yet but there is stll time for it not to begin against that position and those circumstances which made more men than Garnett and Kemper and Armstead and Wilcox look grave yet it's going to begin, we all know that, we have come too far with too much at stake and that moment doesn't need even a fourteen-year-old boy to think This time. Maybe this time with all this much to lose and all this much to gain: Pennsylvania, Maryland, the world, the golden dome of Washington itself to crown with desperate and unbelievable victory the desperate gamble, the cast made two years ago...."
although given how ridiculously hot it is, there might actually be too much radiant joy here! it might even be too hot to cook - know any restraints that have good Brussels Sprouts?
Whenever I try to think through this issue seriously, I always end up agreeing with you - the mere possibility of false conviction is enough to outlaw the death penalty.
Our prisons are useless and inhumane places designed to lock people up like cattle so that we can victimize them. There is absolutely no reason to design prisons the way we do, except that it is a very old tradition dating back millennia to treat "criminals" like vermin. There is a certain subset of human beings who actually enjoy doing this, and they always end up designing, staffing and running our prisons. It is illogical to convict people of breaking the law, and then send them to a place where all the laws of acceptable interpersonal behavior are deliberately violated on a daily basis. It is illogical to convict people of behaving inhumanely and then send them to a place where they are treated inhumanely. We do this because we've always done it and nobody cares that it doesn't work, because they enjoy doing it. It is legalized sadism.
Hundreds and hundreds of serious academic, social and judicial studies, as well as hundreds of science fiction books, have been written on how to build prisons that treat people humanely and give them the resources they need to change their behavior. These ideas won't help everyone, but they will help the majority of people. The initial re-investment might be high, but in the end it would actually cost less than it currently does to just lock people up, abuse them, release them back into society worse than they were when they went in, and watch them re-offend over and over again. Even after they are released, we continue to punish them forever in various ways.
There is a bonus here. An execution would have thrilled his peeps because then they would have a martyr. Now he's just half a martyr.
If my kid won't play nice, he'll get a time out. This kid definitely won't play nice, so time out it is.
This guy sounds like he might have been defective from birth. Crazy violent grandfather Lots of family suicides. Abusive to his disabled mom growing up. Learning difficulties that made him socially weird. No consistent therapy or medication for his schizophrenic tendencies.
When he was in high school, his class went on a trip to Dachau death camp, and he acted as if he was in Disneyland. He said, "This is where the magic happened." That was the time for massive intervention.
There's a horrible irony here. This guy doesn't have a clue that genuine Nazis would have offed him for his mental illness and his lousy genes.
You make a good point about how the Nazis would have eliminated him.
speaking of Monstews, you should check out my new "friend" Keith Lodge!
(he's very scared of Milk Shakes!)
I must have already blocked him, as I can’t see your responses.
i kept responding to everything he said with lyrics from that "My Milk Shake Brings All of the Boys to the Yard" song - reduced him to total incoherence (not that is really saying much)
the intire thread is full of twiggewed pwoud widde boy incels who are all scared of My Milkshake!
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2:14pm 7/3/1863
"For every Southern boy fourteen years old, not once but whenever he wants it, there is the instant when it's still not yet two oclock on that July afternoon in 1863, the brigades are in position behind the rail fence, the guns are laid and ready in the woods and the furled flags are already loosened to break out and Pickett himself with his long oiled ringlets and his hat in one hand probably and his sword in the other looking up the hill waiting for Longstreet to give the word and it's all in the balance, it hasn't happened yet, it hasn't even begun yet, it not only hasn't begun yet but there is stll time for it not to begin against that position and those circumstances which made more men than Garnett and Kemper and Armstead and Wilcox look grave yet it's going to begin, we all know that, we have come too far with too much at stake and that moment doesn't need even a fourteen-year-old boy to think This time. Maybe this time with all this much to lose and all this much to gain: Pennsylvania, Maryland, the world, the golden dome of Washington itself to crown with desperate and unbelievable victory the desperate gamble, the cast made two years ago...."
Have a Happy July 4th!
although given how ridiculously hot it is, there might actually be too much radiant joy here! it might even be too hot to cook - know any restraints that have good Brussels Sprouts?
You too, Erika! Happy Fireworks!
Nah, he's already a martyr for the cause.
there were not to many fireworks down here - other than the thunder and lightning (although some people still set them off even while it was pouring)
Nope and he will be seen as a martyr by some too.
Running over people is also a recommended way to have a jihad party against the West.
Two sides of the same coin.
Watch out Marianne Williamson: hate kills love.
One more observation: he could fit in well behind bars. My impression is that racism is rampant there, by all three groups.
Whenever I try to think through this issue seriously, I always end up agreeing with you - the mere possibility of false conviction is enough to outlaw the death penalty.
Our prisons are useless and inhumane places designed to lock people up like cattle so that we can victimize them. There is absolutely no reason to design prisons the way we do, except that it is a very old tradition dating back millennia to treat "criminals" like vermin. There is a certain subset of human beings who actually enjoy doing this, and they always end up designing, staffing and running our prisons. It is illogical to convict people of breaking the law, and then send them to a place where all the laws of acceptable interpersonal behavior are deliberately violated on a daily basis. It is illogical to convict people of behaving inhumanely and then send them to a place where they are treated inhumanely. We do this because we've always done it and nobody cares that it doesn't work, because they enjoy doing it. It is legalized sadism.
Hundreds and hundreds of serious academic, social and judicial studies, as well as hundreds of science fiction books, have been written on how to build prisons that treat people humanely and give them the resources they need to change their behavior. These ideas won't help everyone, but they will help the majority of people. The initial re-investment might be high, but in the end it would actually cost less than it currently does to just lock people up, abuse them, release them back into society worse than they were when they went in, and watch them re-offend over and over again. Even after they are released, we continue to punish them forever in various ways.