I had almost finished my second shift at my first part-time job before the manager put his hand in my shirt so he could “take a closer look at my necklace”. I was 16.
Who says they don't love the arts? Why, they want to turn the entire state of Wisconsin (and no doubt all the other states, too) into a Dickens novel. You can just all the little street urchins (like Oliver Twist) plaintively begging the well-nourished workhouse master at suppertime, "Please, sir, I want some more." And the cruel master swinging at them with his gruel-ladle and crying out for the beadle. Yes, it's downright literary.
“Work ethic” my ass. More like “We want to teach them early that there is no future other than wage slavery.” This summarizes my whole thoughts on the idea of “work ethic.”
Yes. In this land of opportunity, so-called, very few people ever actually get ahead. One has to try really hard NOT to see how insanely cruel the disparity in incomes has become here and in many other supposedly advanced countries.
Yeah. Earlier this year, at least one teenager was injured while working at a Wis meat packing plant, even with the rules in place. What could go wrong?
My Father wouldn't allow me to work at a job until I was out of High School He told me If I had any spare time he had plenty of work around the place for me, or I could spend some more hours on my studies. During summer he loaded me up with chores and books leaving little time for mischief with my buddies, whose Fathers were for the most part of similar mind set. T hey didn't object to us working or studying collectively, actually sort of encouraged it Looking back,. they were correct. Children do not belong in the work place.
I've got to disagree. I got a lot of experience on how the world works with my teen jobs, and so did my kids with theirs. The qualities that teachers and parents really love and push for are not necessarily the ones that the rest of the world cares about, and for a good student/bright kid, it's useful to see that not everyone actually cares about encouraging my creativity or how precocious I am.
A kid needs people to love and support and encourage them, but they also need people who are decent to them, but who do not love them, so they get a realistic idea of how special they are.
Also, skills and money are not nothing, and a job gets you both.
It depends. 16 should be the definite cut-off, but when I have students who are doing well in school and we discuss getting a job at IEP meetings, I am cautiously approving, and we talk about it, and establish that if studies suffer, the job goes bye-bye. I had a student last year who got a job, started slacking, I called home, mom and I talked, and the kid quit the job.
A lot of my kids get jobs of about 10-15 hours a week. This can be manageable for them.
Overall, I very much appreciate your post. Your dad was paying attention.
Newt Gingrich pushed this idea years ago and it was dismissed as impossible, especially after he and his scary most recent under-the-desk wife posed, grinning, in front of the "Arbeit macht frei" sign.
So now normalized? Or only in RWNJ Wisconsin purlieus?
What the ever-lovin' fuck is Newter Gingrich still doing alive and why is ANYONE listening to him? (or quoting him on this mommyblog unless it's posthumous?) But we need to remember how we came to this point Tim Miller and Michael Steele (and Nichole Wallace)... In the words of Driftglass: No Fair Remembering Stuff. You're welcome. I need more coffee...
We would not want Newt to organize that, but I am not entirely against the idea. Considering the foster care system in most states, maybe the idea of having group homes for kids staffed by professional people is not such a bad idea.
MAGA!! Means getting back to those good old sensible days when women and coloreds knew their place and stayed in it, and queers knew they were the worst of sinners and stayed quiet about their hideous sexual practices lest they get a damned good beating. God Bless America!
You may be able to find out on Open Secrets website. It gives wealth & its sources for elected officials, among other things.
and once this little roadblock is removed i assume the next step will be saying only adults are allowed to join a union?
I had almost finished my second shift at my first part-time job before the manager put his hand in my shirt so he could “take a closer look at my necklace”. I was 16.
Who says they don't love the arts? Why, they want to turn the entire state of Wisconsin (and no doubt all the other states, too) into a Dickens novel. You can just all the little street urchins (like Oliver Twist) plaintively begging the well-nourished workhouse master at suppertime, "Please, sir, I want some more." And the cruel master swinging at them with his gruel-ladle and crying out for the beadle. Yes, it's downright literary.
Mosinee, Menomonie, and Sheboygan sound like towns that George Burns and Gracie Allen would've been playing in the 1930s...
“Work ethic” my ass. More like “We want to teach them early that there is no future other than wage slavery.” This summarizes my whole thoughts on the idea of “work ethic.”
Yes. In this land of opportunity, so-called, very few people ever actually get ahead. One has to try really hard NOT to see how insanely cruel the disparity in incomes has become here and in many other supposedly advanced countries.
Yeah. Earlier this year, at least one teenager was injured while working at a Wis meat packing plant, even with the rules in place. What could go wrong?
Doesn't the permit process kind of prevent....TRAFFICKING? The thing they are very very very concerned about?
Forget safety issues. Time spent working is time not spent in school. I can only assume the GOP are trying to expand their voter base.
My Father wouldn't allow me to work at a job until I was out of High School He told me If I had any spare time he had plenty of work around the place for me, or I could spend some more hours on my studies. During summer he loaded me up with chores and books leaving little time for mischief with my buddies, whose Fathers were for the most part of similar mind set. T hey didn't object to us working or studying collectively, actually sort of encouraged it Looking back,. they were correct. Children do not belong in the work place.
I've got to disagree. I got a lot of experience on how the world works with my teen jobs, and so did my kids with theirs. The qualities that teachers and parents really love and push for are not necessarily the ones that the rest of the world cares about, and for a good student/bright kid, it's useful to see that not everyone actually cares about encouraging my creativity or how precocious I am.
A kid needs people to love and support and encourage them, but they also need people who are decent to them, but who do not love them, so they get a realistic idea of how special they are.
Also, skills and money are not nothing, and a job gets you both.
It depends. 16 should be the definite cut-off, but when I have students who are doing well in school and we discuss getting a job at IEP meetings, I am cautiously approving, and we talk about it, and establish that if studies suffer, the job goes bye-bye. I had a student last year who got a job, started slacking, I called home, mom and I talked, and the kid quit the job.
A lot of my kids get jobs of about 10-15 hours a week. This can be manageable for them.
Overall, I very much appreciate your post. Your dad was paying attention.
My first taste of work was in a hardware store at age 16, but of course people were less nuts in 1978.
My next job, everybody was indeed armed to the teeth. I myself had an M-16 and an M-203 grenade launcher, but that's the Army!
The old rule required parental input, dumbass; the new rule takes them right out.
Did anyone else see the TV show Braindead? Alien bugs infected Republicans. Even they weren't this crass.
Was that the one where the Colonel or whatever was always pulling epaulets off of Chuck Connors?
"Scorned as the man who ran??"
Newt Gingrich pushed this idea years ago and it was dismissed as impossible, especially after he and his scary most recent under-the-desk wife posed, grinning, in front of the "Arbeit macht frei" sign.
So now normalized? Or only in RWNJ Wisconsin purlieus?
What the ever-lovin' fuck is Newter Gingrich still doing alive and why is ANYONE listening to him? (or quoting him on this mommyblog unless it's posthumous?) But we need to remember how we came to this point Tim Miller and Michael Steele (and Nichole Wallace)... In the words of Driftglass: No Fair Remembering Stuff. You're welcome. I need more coffee...
Newt Gingrich also wanted to bring back orphanages.
We would not want Newt to organize that, but I am not entirely against the idea. Considering the foster care system in most states, maybe the idea of having group homes for kids staffed by professional people is not such a bad idea.
Good luck getting Americans to fund that, though.
"Are there no workhouses?"
-- Newt/Ebenezer.
The only reason for allowing minor children to work at regular "jobs" is so that scumbag business owners can reduce labor costs
So now abusing children for $$ is illegal?
Slippery slope to socialisms!
MAGA!! Means getting back to those good old sensible days when women and coloreds knew their place and stayed in it, and queers knew they were the worst of sinners and stayed quiet about their hideous sexual practices lest they get a damned good beating. God Bless America!
They cannot fix the state's election maps soon enough...that's the only thing that will put a stop to them trying shite like this...