Look, I'm sorry. I don't mean to disrespect Michael's service. But the idea that we are going to have a serious discussion about this horseshit is an insult to pixels, electrons and oxygen molecules.
People who are trying to pretend that a guy who deployed lethal force against an unarmed man is a hero don't deserve to be taken seriously for a nanosecond.
Michael Mora is a Marine. Once a Marine, always a Marine, unless you do bad things like, oh, I don't know, Oliver North or this Penny asshole. Listen to the HONORABLE Marine Mora. I loves me some jarheads, (a term I use only with affection) and Michael is one of them.
It's a sign of how much the press has, and hasn't, changed since the 1980s and Bernard Goetz, to watch their slow, rather sneaky circling of wagons around Daniel Penny.
In the 1980s, although the tabloids celebrated Goetz noisily (the horrors of talk radio, CSPAN, and the internet still lurked in the future), most of the press still treated vigilantism as indelicate.
While fussing about "crime" (meaning black people) and writing understanding analyses of What Drove Bernard Goetz, the tone of the mainstream press was on the whole disapproving.
Now, the tabloids celebrate Penny noisily, joined by talk radio, CSPAN, and the internet, while the mainstream press, although delicate in its endorsement of vigilantism, is no longer disapproving.
If I were a US Marine (and God knows, I am the least US Marine human on the face of the planet, being a little old lady who grows flowers), I would be pissed as hell that the US press has taken to referring to this killer as "The Marine." Marines are specifically taught not to take the lives of civilians even in crisis situations. There's rigorous training, plus a code of honor.
IIRC, it was a confluence of both of these things. On the left we were concerned that keeping people institutionalized who were neither a threat to themselves nor others was not a humane policy. We did not, however, advocate for throwing people out in the street without follow-up care or the benefits of social safety-net. That was all Reagan. Though I do not believe in Hell I do like to imagine him (and Andrew Jackson *spits*) comfortably roasting there.
I can’t even imagine sitting on the F train doing nothing while that animal was choking the life out another human being. You know at least one person in that car had mace on them. Because weird shit does happens on the subway.
Fuck that guy. I don’t carry mace but I’d have given him a face-full of dry shampoo. Ever get that shit in your eyes or breathe it in?
He's not a hero because he murdered a man whom society threw out on to the street because we didn't want to pay for mental health care.
This country sucks at mental health care. It just does. That isn't putting down the facilities, doctors, and nurses who work in mental health care. They do their best, but there aren't enough of them. And private insurance complicates matters. So does cost. You'll have to exhaust your annual out of pocket cost.
So what is a family supposed to do when a loved one has mental issues and they cannot afford care or they can, but they can't find a facility to take and treat their loved one? Does your city have a local number to call for a mental health emergency that doesn't involve the police? Do you know it? Could you afford to take the time off needed to spend on the phone with your insurance company finding out which facilities will take your insurance and then spend hours on the phone calling each facility to see if they still take your insurance and they have a bed available?
And if your loved one is an adult, well, there's more complications because the treatment might have to be involuntary which means it could be temporary and then they're out on the street.
And then, to put the cherry on top of the shit sundae, they might be murdered at any time by the police or an asshole for being mentally ill and causing a disturbance.
So fuck you to all of the people who don't do shit to help fund and support mental health care in our government. Fuck you to the cities and counties who don't have mental health specialist teams to come out for emergencies. Fuck you to the police who shoot first and shoot often. Fuck you to the voters who keep electing assholes who will never improve the system. Fuck you to the asshole who murdered this man in cold blood for annoying him on the subway.
Hey whats a little civil war among friends?
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Look, I'm sorry. I don't mean to disrespect Michael's service. But the idea that we are going to have a serious discussion about this horseshit is an insult to pixels, electrons and oxygen molecules.
People who are trying to pretend that a guy who deployed lethal force against an unarmed man is a hero don't deserve to be taken seriously for a nanosecond.
That Manhattan gym must be awesome to have take the LIRR and subway
Michael Mora is a Marine. Once a Marine, always a Marine, unless you do bad things like, oh, I don't know, Oliver North or this Penny asshole. Listen to the HONORABLE Marine Mora. I loves me some jarheads, (a term I use only with affection) and Michael is one of them.
Daniel Penny is the Kylo Rottenhouse of Daniel Pantaleos
Whatever. There isn't even a Rittenhouse situation here. The victim wasn't armed.
Vlad's "special military operation" keeps getting more special in ways Vlad had not planned on.
Did not end well for the Romanovs.
It's a sign of how much the press has, and hasn't, changed since the 1980s and Bernard Goetz, to watch their slow, rather sneaky circling of wagons around Daniel Penny.
In the 1980s, although the tabloids celebrated Goetz noisily (the horrors of talk radio, CSPAN, and the internet still lurked in the future), most of the press still treated vigilantism as indelicate.
While fussing about "crime" (meaning black people) and writing understanding analyses of What Drove Bernard Goetz, the tone of the mainstream press was on the whole disapproving.
Now, the tabloids celebrate Penny noisily, joined by talk radio, CSPAN, and the internet, while the mainstream press, although delicate in its endorsement of vigilantism, is no longer disapproving.
If I were a US Marine (and God knows, I am the least US Marine human on the face of the planet, being a little old lady who grows flowers), I would be pissed as hell that the US press has taken to referring to this killer as "The Marine." Marines are specifically taught not to take the lives of civilians even in crisis situations. There's rigorous training, plus a code of honor.
Penny also noted that he saw loose cigarettes near Neely, a sure sign of dangerous criminality requiring extreme choking measures.
IIRC, it was a confluence of both of these things. On the left we were concerned that keeping people institutionalized who were neither a threat to themselves nor others was not a humane policy. We did not, however, advocate for throwing people out in the street without follow-up care or the benefits of social safety-net. That was all Reagan. Though I do not believe in Hell I do like to imagine him (and Andrew Jackson *spits*) comfortably roasting there.
Preach.
The vicarious fantasy of killing.
I can’t even imagine sitting on the F train doing nothing while that animal was choking the life out another human being. You know at least one person in that car had mace on them. Because weird shit does happens on the subway.
Fuck that guy. I don’t carry mace but I’d have given him a face-full of dry shampoo. Ever get that shit in your eyes or breathe it in?
I may be a little late for Caturday, but I'm going to leave this here anyway. https://candorville.com/
Stephen, the audio balance is annoyingly bad... your audio is like 4x louder than Michael's.
He's not a hero because he murdered a man whom society threw out on to the street because we didn't want to pay for mental health care.
This country sucks at mental health care. It just does. That isn't putting down the facilities, doctors, and nurses who work in mental health care. They do their best, but there aren't enough of them. And private insurance complicates matters. So does cost. You'll have to exhaust your annual out of pocket cost.
So what is a family supposed to do when a loved one has mental issues and they cannot afford care or they can, but they can't find a facility to take and treat their loved one? Does your city have a local number to call for a mental health emergency that doesn't involve the police? Do you know it? Could you afford to take the time off needed to spend on the phone with your insurance company finding out which facilities will take your insurance and then spend hours on the phone calling each facility to see if they still take your insurance and they have a bed available?
And if your loved one is an adult, well, there's more complications because the treatment might have to be involuntary which means it could be temporary and then they're out on the street.
And then, to put the cherry on top of the shit sundae, they might be murdered at any time by the police or an asshole for being mentally ill and causing a disturbance.
So fuck you to all of the people who don't do shit to help fund and support mental health care in our government. Fuck you to the cities and counties who don't have mental health specialist teams to come out for emergencies. Fuck you to the police who shoot first and shoot often. Fuck you to the voters who keep electing assholes who will never improve the system. Fuck you to the asshole who murdered this man in cold blood for annoying him on the subway.