This stuck with me - this woman who told a Black Capitol Hill reporter to “SHUT UP” when she was asking legitimate questions of Confederate Republican so-called “House leadership”
is the same one who was on the House floor talking about how the vitamins & nutrients in whole milk were good for American schoolchildren BECAUSE they powered Santa’s trip from house to house across the globe
with no mention of how much the dairy lobby contributed to her & other Confederate Republicans’ campaign coffers
I’m not sure exactly what’s happening on the House floor (well, right now, nothing, because MAGA Mike Johnson called recess so all the do-nothings could go home after a session of being the 2nd-least-productive Congress in U.S. history) but ...
people who use Santa’s digestive habits to justify what American schoolchildren should or should not be fed (not to mention literally behaving like Daughters of the Confederacy and believing some of those children shouldn't get lunch at all even though the Black Panthers were trying to feed *all the kids* before Ronnie Raygun stopped them) really should not be in charge of absolutely anything else for a whole country full of people
My mother, of blessed and cursed memory, LOVED milk. I hated it. I couldn't digest cow milk formula when I was a neonate, and was put on a soy formula, which was fine by me. However, fat babies were in fashion in the 1950s, and mom's ObGyn scared her with "She's not gaining weight fast enough." That was bullshit. I was a 15" five pound baby at birth. I was NOT supposed to be the butterball that was the ideal at the time. Anyway, mom had to come up with 75 cents a can for goat milk to make my formula. I didn't have a problem until I was weaned, at which time she started giving me Foxx's favorite, "whole" milk. It always made me sick, and by the time I was four it cost me my tonsils. Humans are so strange.
I remember when the fat in ALL dark chocolate was cocoa butter. Now I have to read labels because almost all of it uses milk fat. Disgusting.
My mom got that same lecture, except in her case it was that her A-cups were insufficient to breastfeed and look how undernourished I was (I have yet to discover any proof of this) so they put me on special formula to fatten me up. It worked only too well. Alas.
I'm old enough to remember government cheese. My grtandfather in law would get it but didn't need the whole 5 pound block soo he'd give us some. The best cheese ever, made with whole milk and no filler.
I absolutely don't want to sound judgy because I don't care if you put it in your mouth, but the idea of ingesting another specie's mammary secretions just seems a little creepy on a multitude of levels. So what are we doing tricking these cows to think they're pregnant and or nursing all the time? That seems bad. Also, this Foxx lady is completely fucking insane. She is the one who was shouting "shut up" when the press was trying to interview Mike Johnson, correct?
Cows aren't tricked into thinking they're pregnant. Where do you think veal comes from? And they are nursing...a machine.
We had one milk cow when I was a kid (hand milked), but I never liked the milk. When she dried up near the end of gestation, we bought milk, and I loved it (still do). It was years before I realized our cow's milk was skim milk, and store milk was whole milk (we skimmed it for cream and butter). So I'm on board with this, much as I hate to be on VF's side on anything (especially since she lied all the way through her speech, as if low or non-fat milk removed all nutrients from milk and not just fat. What's next, outlawing socialist pasteurization? It's French, after all).
It all sounds highly unethical and I don't participate in any of it, so I'm ignorant about all of this so-called animal husbandry because I think using animals to do anything against their will or their nature is completely and utterly unethical and probably evil
I'm with you on the fresh milk! My elderly aunt had a single dairy cow when we were kids and she often had way more than she could drink. We would get it in big glass 2 gallon jars and we made our own butter by skimming the cream off the top. Best milk I've ever had.
Yeah, I used to drink whole milk until I was in my forties. Then my doctor told me my cholesterol was through the roof and to stop drinking that fatty crap.
I hardly ever drink milk anymore, so the occasional hot cocoa or cooking indulgence works for me. Plus I'm at risk genetically for high cholesterol, so I'm not particularly motivated to cut back except on things I do regularly consume.
I've mentioned a while back that I knew a reporter who interviewed Foxx concerning some money from the local community college that was used to fix up her home when she was the chief executive there. After doing some background checking as well as interviewing folks on background, this reporter understood that Foxx was not "liked" by a majority of the persons. When that reporter finally interviewed Ms. Foxx at her office, she responded in exasperation and got up during the interview and started (with the reporter in tow) going to classes in session, opening the door, and asking if they liked her. Doing so multiple times. The look on the those inside the classrooms was a mix of 'are you for real, lady?' and 'who does this?'. (This was decades ago. I think it was in the Mountain Times, a paper out in western NC in the Blue Ridge Mtns that published the story.)
There's more about her that the reporter mentioned to me, but being hearsay (as well as being a long time ago), there's nothing else to add other than this: there's nothing behind those eyes.
"we don't know why higher subsidies would mean higher prices either!"
SAF! They are talking about market support, ie maintaining an artificial floor under wholesale prices by buying as much as would be surplus at that price and storing it underground is old salt mines or whatever. "Market support" is really the OPPOSITE of "subsidy" which would be cash payments to farmers to allow them to make normal profit while selling BELOW the cost of production to feed the babies. But that kind of subsidy is "bad" because it REWARDS INEFFICIENCY and DISTORTS THE MARKET. Unlike the "good" kind, obviously.
Yep. That's the only reason that those idiots need. We should start a movement venerating the breathing of oxygen as a liberal value and see what happens. 😁
Maybe she could worry a little less that the milk in school cafeterias doesn't have enough fat in it, and a little more about all the kids who can't afford that milk or anything else in the cafeteria.
Now that’s crazy talk. Parents should give their kids a bag lunch so they know they love them. Or some other libertarian nonsense Paul Ryan babbled about once.
Speaking as someone who wrote a porn parody of a zombie apocalypse scenario by replacing the zombies with anthropomorphic cows, I gotta say; she’s got a weird obsession with milk.
I believe this is a fight we have lost, friend. Much like "literally," for which the dictionary now includes both its traditional definition and the newer common usage one that is literally the opposite, we are not going to get "begging the question" away from all the people who think it means the same thing as "raises the question." I hate it, you hate it, and it will feel like a fingernails on a chalkboard every time I hear it, but I think this one is lost.
Language evolves, and the defining characteristic of language is its ability to communicate meaning between people, so if we need to glass-half-full this, at least we can understand the folks who use it the way it was meant back in the day, and the way people are using it now. We're bilingual!
The problem is that if "literally" becomes just a generic intensifier, we will have no way to concisely say "not figuratively but according to the actual dictionary definition." And that will reduce our ability to communicate.
Not technically. Just limits our ability to communicate concisely, as you pointed out. Communication will still be had. But in any case, that horse has sailed; it’s a generic intensifier now!
There’s some really interesting work coming from linguists I’ve encountered in online spaces about how the fight over proper usage of language runs parallel to other hierarchically arranged power structures in society, and it will surprise no one here to learn that a lot of our teeth-gnashing over “proper” English is a microcosm of broader social structure conflicts in the US. I’ve bookmarked for a between-semester pleasure read this summer’s issue of the linguistics journal Daedalus, and their special theme issue on Language and Social Justice in the United States. It is open access! If you’re a word nerd like I am, you might find some cool thoughts shared in the articles.
I have always hated milk. I love other dairy products, but milk has always been incredibly gross to me. (My parents used to insist that I drink a glass of it with dinner. I would be left sitting at the dinner table with a half-glass of room temperature milk while I cried and gagged it down ... and occasionally barfed it up.) I never ate cereal nor do I as an adult because I have such an aversion to milk.
My kids drink soymilk at home. They will use milk on cereal at camp or on vacation.
I don't get the hard on for whole milk here nor the extreme disdain for it. "Whole milk" is actually 3.5% milkfat, so not really too different from 2%. I guess kids can have whatever they like. Also, it's not like the milkfats go to waste or anything, so why this lady think kids will fall to the ground for lack of energy without whole milk is really weird to me - it's not that big of a thing in dairy. ALL of the milks are processed and then the right amount of milkfat is added back in.
The milk fat goes to Hershey and Nestle and the like. They've replaced cocoa butter in chocolate with milk fat. It's fucking disgusting that we vegans have to read labels on dark chocolate!!
OT, but a humble request from a humble commenter: can you please stop using DreamAI to generate images? They are causing nightmares for me. Pretty please. With sugar on top.
Maybe you should email Rebecca or Dok with your request. One of many comments might not have the reach you wish. rebecca@ this website or drzoom@ (I think).
Plant-based eater for more than a decade here. Humans definitely need milk, from your own species preferably, when you're an infant. After weaning, not so much, whole or otherwise, and certainly not from a species not your own, despite what the dairy industry has taught you to believe.
This stuck with me - this woman who told a Black Capitol Hill reporter to “SHUT UP” when she was asking legitimate questions of Confederate Republican so-called “House leadership”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd11rSn3K5A
is the same one who was on the House floor talking about how the vitamins & nutrients in whole milk were good for American schoolchildren BECAUSE they powered Santa’s trip from house to house across the globe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVDL9aSqywo&t=100s
with no mention of how much the dairy lobby contributed to her & other Confederate Republicans’ campaign coffers
I’m not sure exactly what’s happening on the House floor (well, right now, nothing, because MAGA Mike Johnson called recess so all the do-nothings could go home after a session of being the 2nd-least-productive Congress in U.S. history) but ...
people who use Santa’s digestive habits to justify what American schoolchildren should or should not be fed (not to mention literally behaving like Daughters of the Confederacy and believing some of those children shouldn't get lunch at all even though the Black Panthers were trying to feed *all the kids* before Ronnie Raygun stopped them) really should not be in charge of absolutely anything else for a whole country full of people
My mother, of blessed and cursed memory, LOVED milk. I hated it. I couldn't digest cow milk formula when I was a neonate, and was put on a soy formula, which was fine by me. However, fat babies were in fashion in the 1950s, and mom's ObGyn scared her with "She's not gaining weight fast enough." That was bullshit. I was a 15" five pound baby at birth. I was NOT supposed to be the butterball that was the ideal at the time. Anyway, mom had to come up with 75 cents a can for goat milk to make my formula. I didn't have a problem until I was weaned, at which time she started giving me Foxx's favorite, "whole" milk. It always made me sick, and by the time I was four it cost me my tonsils. Humans are so strange.
I remember when the fat in ALL dark chocolate was cocoa butter. Now I have to read labels because almost all of it uses milk fat. Disgusting.
My mom got that same lecture, except in her case it was that her A-cups were insufficient to breastfeed and look how undernourished I was (I have yet to discover any proof of this) so they put me on special formula to fatten me up. It worked only too well. Alas.
I'm old enough to remember government cheese. My grtandfather in law would get it but didn't need the whole 5 pound block soo he'd give us some. The best cheese ever, made with whole milk and no filler.
OMG yes! Government cheese was the stuff! Also the government butter was pretty damn good.
I absolutely don't want to sound judgy because I don't care if you put it in your mouth, but the idea of ingesting another specie's mammary secretions just seems a little creepy on a multitude of levels. So what are we doing tricking these cows to think they're pregnant and or nursing all the time? That seems bad. Also, this Foxx lady is completely fucking insane. She is the one who was shouting "shut up" when the press was trying to interview Mike Johnson, correct?
Cows aren't tricked into thinking they're pregnant. Where do you think veal comes from? And they are nursing...a machine.
We had one milk cow when I was a kid (hand milked), but I never liked the milk. When she dried up near the end of gestation, we bought milk, and I loved it (still do). It was years before I realized our cow's milk was skim milk, and store milk was whole milk (we skimmed it for cream and butter). So I'm on board with this, much as I hate to be on VF's side on anything (especially since she lied all the way through her speech, as if low or non-fat milk removed all nutrients from milk and not just fat. What's next, outlawing socialist pasteurization? It's French, after all).
It all sounds highly unethical and I don't participate in any of it, so I'm ignorant about all of this so-called animal husbandry because I think using animals to do anything against their will or their nature is completely and utterly unethical and probably evil
The problem is vitamins A and D need fat to be absorbed. Growing brains also need fat. I'd go as far to say low fat diets are bad for kids.
I'm with you on the fresh milk! My elderly aunt had a single dairy cow when we were kids and she often had way more than she could drink. We would get it in big glass 2 gallon jars and we made our own butter by skimming the cream off the top. Best milk I've ever had.
I can't stand milk. Cheese, yogurt, ice cream are awesome, but milk tastes terrible to me.
Also, even if I liked it, I'd be having second thoughts now that Virginia Foxx is bloviating about it. She's a stain on NC.
Santa drinks reindeer milk.
I just don't want to think about Santa milking Rudolph. 😆 Talk about reindeer games.
No, the elves milk the dams and make his nightly hot cocoa for him.
Those elves better have a real good union, that's all I gotta say. 😆
direct from the source cos he's hardcore like that
Yeah, I used to drink whole milk until I was in my forties. Then my doctor told me my cholesterol was through the roof and to stop drinking that fatty crap.
I hardly ever drink milk anymore, so the occasional hot cocoa or cooking indulgence works for me. Plus I'm at risk genetically for high cholesterol, so I'm not particularly motivated to cut back except on things I do regularly consume.
I've mentioned a while back that I knew a reporter who interviewed Foxx concerning some money from the local community college that was used to fix up her home when she was the chief executive there. After doing some background checking as well as interviewing folks on background, this reporter understood that Foxx was not "liked" by a majority of the persons. When that reporter finally interviewed Ms. Foxx at her office, she responded in exasperation and got up during the interview and started (with the reporter in tow) going to classes in session, opening the door, and asking if they liked her. Doing so multiple times. The look on the those inside the classrooms was a mix of 'are you for real, lady?' and 'who does this?'. (This was decades ago. I think it was in the Mountain Times, a paper out in western NC in the Blue Ridge Mtns that published the story.)
There's more about her that the reporter mentioned to me, but being hearsay (as well as being a long time ago), there's nothing else to add other than this: there's nothing behind those eyes.
"we don't know why higher subsidies would mean higher prices either!"
SAF! They are talking about market support, ie maintaining an artificial floor under wholesale prices by buying as much as would be surplus at that price and storing it underground is old salt mines or whatever. "Market support" is really the OPPOSITE of "subsidy" which would be cash payments to farmers to allow them to make normal profit while selling BELOW the cost of production to feed the babies. But that kind of subsidy is "bad" because it REWARDS INEFFICIENCY and DISTORTS THE MARKET. Unlike the "good" kind, obviously.
SOSHALLIZZUMMS
I don’t get it. Is whole milk more profitable for the dairy industry? Why do they care if kids drink whole or low fat milk?
People with degrees are against it, so the right is for it
Yep. That's the only reason that those idiots need. We should start a movement venerating the breathing of oxygen as a liberal value and see what happens. 😁
Maybe she could worry a little less that the milk in school cafeterias doesn't have enough fat in it, and a little more about all the kids who can't afford that milk or anything else in the cafeteria.
Now that’s crazy talk. Parents should give their kids a bag lunch so they know they love them. Or some other libertarian nonsense Paul Ryan babbled about once.
Speaking as someone who wrote a porn parody of a zombie apocalypse scenario by replacing the zombies with anthropomorphic cows, I gotta say; she’s got a weird obsession with milk.
"Begs the question"?
Did this poor woman even finish high school? Or is education just that bad in the Confederacy?
I believe this is a fight we have lost, friend. Much like "literally," for which the dictionary now includes both its traditional definition and the newer common usage one that is literally the opposite, we are not going to get "begging the question" away from all the people who think it means the same thing as "raises the question." I hate it, you hate it, and it will feel like a fingernails on a chalkboard every time I hear it, but I think this one is lost.
Language evolves, and the defining characteristic of language is its ability to communicate meaning between people, so if we need to glass-half-full this, at least we can understand the folks who use it the way it was meant back in the day, and the way people are using it now. We're bilingual!
The problem is that if "literally" becomes just a generic intensifier, we will have no way to concisely say "not figuratively but according to the actual dictionary definition." And that will reduce our ability to communicate.
Not technically. Just limits our ability to communicate concisely, as you pointed out. Communication will still be had. But in any case, that horse has sailed; it’s a generic intensifier now!
There’s some really interesting work coming from linguists I’ve encountered in online spaces about how the fight over proper usage of language runs parallel to other hierarchically arranged power structures in society, and it will surprise no one here to learn that a lot of our teeth-gnashing over “proper” English is a microcosm of broader social structure conflicts in the US. I’ve bookmarked for a between-semester pleasure read this summer’s issue of the linguistics journal Daedalus, and their special theme issue on Language and Social Justice in the United States. It is open access! If you’re a word nerd like I am, you might find some cool thoughts shared in the articles.
https://www.amacad.org/daedalus/language-social-justice-united-states
I have always hated milk. I love other dairy products, but milk has always been incredibly gross to me. (My parents used to insist that I drink a glass of it with dinner. I would be left sitting at the dinner table with a half-glass of room temperature milk while I cried and gagged it down ... and occasionally barfed it up.) I never ate cereal nor do I as an adult because I have such an aversion to milk.
My kids drink soymilk at home. They will use milk on cereal at camp or on vacation.
I don't get the hard on for whole milk here nor the extreme disdain for it. "Whole milk" is actually 3.5% milkfat, so not really too different from 2%. I guess kids can have whatever they like. Also, it's not like the milkfats go to waste or anything, so why this lady think kids will fall to the ground for lack of energy without whole milk is really weird to me - it's not that big of a thing in dairy. ALL of the milks are processed and then the right amount of milkfat is added back in.
The milk fat goes to Hershey and Nestle and the like. They've replaced cocoa butter in chocolate with milk fat. It's fucking disgusting that we vegans have to read labels on dark chocolate!!
OT, but a humble request from a humble commenter: can you please stop using DreamAI to generate images? They are causing nightmares for me. Pretty please. With sugar on top.
Maybe you should email Rebecca or Dok with your request. One of many comments might not have the reach you wish. rebecca@ this website or drzoom@ (I think).
Plant-based eater for more than a decade here. Humans definitely need milk, from your own species preferably, when you're an infant. After weaning, not so much, whole or otherwise, and certainly not from a species not your own, despite what the dairy industry has taught you to believe.
Other than that, Virginia, nice talk.
Oh my Crom, thank you
Milk: it's food for baby calves.
No animal drinks milk beyond infancy. Certainly no other animal drinks the milk of another species.
And we wonder why Americans die of heart disease.