Why do we allow Prosecutors to behave in monstrous fashion? No civilized nation tries children as adults. In fact, we only have age restrictions on anything; voting, alcohol, smoking, military service, binding legal contracts; because we know that children are not adults, and that children are not adults until the age of at least 18 and quite possibly 21.
So under what perversion of logic and humanity do we allow Prosecutors to violate everything we know about human development, to win politically-motivated victories? And those who do not believe Prosecutors are politicians, have a look at the ballot next time you go and vote, and look at how many candidates for all offices including but in no way limited to Prosecutor, are or have been Prosecutors.
No doubt this woman was a dangerous mess when she killed her purchaser/rapist. I imagine that sort of trauma would leave a mark. Such people are not easy to deal with. And America's perverse and barbaric prison system, which would make a Turkish jailer shudder, is no place for a traumatized, abused, dumpster-fire of a trafficked girl.
Thank former Gov. Haslam for finding the courage to do the right thing at the very last possible second, when he could no longer wring any benefit out of this woman's continued torture. That should earn him a couple degrees-lower roasting in Hell for eternity; whatta guy.
The larger issue is, when are we going to re-orient our criminal "justice" system around the needs and benefits of American Society, rather than the political ambitions of Prosecutors and the blood-lust of our for-profit media to stoke primitive, atavistic revenge-fantasies.
I don't follow, is that a specific offense in Tennessee that I'm not aware of? As far as I could tell from the NYT article, they had sex that wasn't due to violent coercion but was still statutory rape due to her age.
I think people are mistaking who she killed: she didn't kill her pimp, who violently raped her and forced her into underage prostitution, but a john.
The shutdown has pushed the Russia investigation out of the news cycle. But Trumpworld knows it hasn’t gone away. Rudy Giuliani recently told a friend that he expects Mueller’s report to be “horrific,” a person briefed on the conversation said (Giuliani did not respond to a request for comment). “You’re already hearing people speculate Trump could do a deal and resign.”
Why does she have to wait till August to be freed? Is Tenn still locked in the 19th century where her freedom papers are delivered by mule, from the Gov's office to the warden!
I can't even with this. She was violently coerced and terrorized into being a child prostitute. Anyone having sex with a child is RAPING that child, and no it's not just statutory. How could any reasonable adult male think that sex with a child is in anyway consensual? A john is still guilty of real rape rape in a case like this, it's not a business transaction with a consenting adult sex worker. JFC
I called it what it legally is. Her traumas and the circumstances behind it are what makes this tragic but I can't change what the circumstances of that day were.
Children cannot consent, by definition, making this statutory rape: no ifs ands or buts. And the only reason I even drew the distinction was to answer why she was convicted in the first place, which was she murdered him in his sleep, not fending him off or protecting herself.
I hope she gets all the support she needs when she gets released.She'll need it to cope with what she's been through and to adjust to being out in society again.
I don’t understand it either. I was hoping someone here could explain why it takes most of a year for release to actually happen after a declaration of clemency.
The Koch brothers are not far from the Canadian boarder and could be easily put in jail for a couple of years while the UN figures out the situation...just sayin'.
But if someone kidnapped the dont make it an international incident during hockey season.
Why do we allow Prosecutors to behave in monstrous fashion? No civilized nation tries children as adults. In fact, we only have age restrictions on anything; voting, alcohol, smoking, military service, binding legal contracts; because we know that children are not adults, and that children are not adults until the age of at least 18 and quite possibly 21.
So under what perversion of logic and humanity do we allow Prosecutors to violate everything we know about human development, to win politically-motivated victories? And those who do not believe Prosecutors are politicians, have a look at the ballot next time you go and vote, and look at how many candidates for all offices including but in no way limited to Prosecutor, are or have been Prosecutors.
No doubt this woman was a dangerous mess when she killed her purchaser/rapist. I imagine that sort of trauma would leave a mark. Such people are not easy to deal with. And America's perverse and barbaric prison system, which would make a Turkish jailer shudder, is no place for a traumatized, abused, dumpster-fire of a trafficked girl.
Thank former Gov. Haslam for finding the courage to do the right thing at the very last possible second, when he could no longer wring any benefit out of this woman's continued torture. That should earn him a couple degrees-lower roasting in Hell for eternity; whatta guy.
The larger issue is, when are we going to re-orient our criminal "justice" system around the needs and benefits of American Society, rather than the political ambitions of Prosecutors and the blood-lust of our for-profit media to stoke primitive, atavistic revenge-fantasies.
I don't follow, is that a specific offense in Tennessee that I'm not aware of? As far as I could tell from the NYT article, they had sex that wasn't due to violent coercion but was still statutory rape due to her age.
I think people are mistaking who she killed: she didn't kill her pimp, who violently raped her and forced her into underage prostitution, but a john.
The shutdown has pushed the Russia investigation out of the news cycle. But Trumpworld knows it hasn’t gone away. Rudy Giuliani recently told a friend that he expects Mueller’s report to be “horrific,” a person briefed on the conversation said (Giuliani did not respond to a request for comment). “You’re already hearing people speculate Trump could do a deal and resign.”
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Why does she have to wait till August to be freed? Is Tenn still locked in the 19th century where her freedom papers are delivered by mule, from the Gov's office to the warden!
I can't even with this. She was violently coerced and terrorized into being a child prostitute. Anyone having sex with a child is RAPING that child, and no it's not just statutory. How could any reasonable adult male think that sex with a child is in anyway consensual? A john is still guilty of real rape rape in a case like this, it's not a business transaction with a consenting adult sex worker. JFC
As I look through this case and the coverage, there is no doubt in my mind that there would have been no charges if she'd been white.
Aw, poor Talulah. :-(
Glad she's feeling better.
I called it what it legally is. Her traumas and the circumstances behind it are what makes this tragic but I can't change what the circumstances of that day were.
Children cannot consent, by definition, making this statutory rape: no ifs ands or buts. And the only reason I even drew the distinction was to answer why she was convicted in the first place, which was she murdered him in his sleep, not fending him off or protecting herself.
Put #45 in a women's prison and he'll be rat fodder within a week.
I hope she gets all the support she needs when she gets released.She'll need it to cope with what she's been through and to adjust to being out in society again.
I'll take this as one small piece of good news on an otherwise dreary and dreadful day (anticipating what Trump will unload on us tonight).
I don’t understand it either. I was hoping someone here could explain why it takes most of a year for release to actually happen after a declaration of clemency.
Because being tough on crime sounds by locking them up and throwing away the key sounds better then taking time and money to invest in our youth.
I'd say that identifying the majority of Trump's supporters as deplorable racists showed a pretty good grasp of the zeitgeist.
The Koch brothers are not far from the Canadian boarder and could be easily put in jail for a couple of years while the UN figures out the situation...just sayin'.
But if someone kidnapped the dont make it an international incident during hockey season.
So it will be Not Coherent on purpose? Before Twump gets ahold of it?