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Also. Didn't the light bulb thing go into effect under Obama which is why it was like the first of these completely phoney "controversies" R's whipped up.

Also also. Don't remember all this heat for W when he forced everyone to get a high def television, or one of those converters for the old CRT sets. Seemed like at the time one thing was more of an intrusion than the other

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Nobody is going to make you replace your existing fan, but new ones made after 2028 will have a different standard. So what? The same thing has been done to nearly every electrical appliance periodically since there have been electrical appliances. Just another bugaboo to frighten really stupid people into voting Republican

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No small business makes ceiling fans, as almost all are made in China or Taiwan.

So there goes that idiotic argument down the toilet!

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How odd. I still have my car and I still have my gas stove. I also have a ceiling fan that I occasionally use to exhaust hot air from the house and bring in cooler air, thus not having to use an air conditioner.

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Instead of a fan, I just have Steve put his lips together and blow.

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How dare the Democrats defile this beloved icon of American folk-culture.

I mean: FFS.

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If republicans were told they were going to reformulate gasoline to make your car run better, they would call it a commie plot. "F" these people! Keep doing the right things

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Ceiling fans are a good thing. Making them more efficient is also a good thing. But right wingers always need fuel for the outrage machine, so...

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I hire attractive people to fan me with palm fronds

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sorry, i'm not available weekdays.

[ . . . or weekends either, come to think about it ]

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Aug 29, 2023Liked by Rebecca Schoenkopf

We just built a new house. Our ceiling fans use highly efficient DC motors and very little electricity. They go well with our induction heating stove and LED lighting. Of course all of the appliances are efficient as well to reduce the amount of electricity, water, and gas we use. The horror!

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I’ll admit I’m a bit confused about the ceiling fan thing.

I just had 3 of my 4 ceiling fans replaced for various reasons. I only run them if I happen to be in the room where they are located.

That said, the ceiling fans allow me to stay cooler, while knocking up the AC by a few degrees. This seems like a net decrease in energy usage.

What am I missing?

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Brain cells? or a sarcasm indicator?

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Hard to say, but my fuckhead indicator just started going off at full blast.

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Guessing that the long established and accepted standards for ceiling fans is possibly outdated and updated standards wouldn't be super hard to attain so they want to update the rules.

Fans def make it easier to keep the AC a couple degrees up and I strongly believe (have been in arguments) that it results in a net decrease when utilized properly, but hey it's be even better if when I upgrade in a decades or whenever if the ceiling fan is more efficient

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Higher grade wall insulation and windows seems to be missing. Our ceiling fans don't impact our internal AC temps in our house....

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Perhaps I wasn’t clear. I didn’t say that the ceiling fans lower the internal temps. I meant that they make ME feel cooler when I’m sitting under one, so I can bump up the setting on the AC by a few degrees.

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man, at the rate they are jerking their knees, they're gonna hurt something!

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Most purrrrs in a purrricane in history from the standpoint of purrrrs.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://substack.com/profile/157525103-hoovervilles/note/c-39212669?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=2lsb5b

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wait, I thought we were coming for the AC by replacing them with the ceiling fans?

Is this some sort of Dark Brandon reverse psychology?

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Tiresome R's. As the French Underground used to say on "Allo, Allo", leesen very carefully, I shall say zees only wahnce: nobody is coming for your goddam ceiling fans. Stop being deliberately obtuse.

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they need to stoke the performative outrage machine somehow - either that or develop policies of their own, govern based on those policies and their convictions and act like adults. Option 1 is easier for them

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Hehe, banana! You'll pry my fan from my hot, sweaty fingers.

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